12:32 <popey> #startmeeting Shorts meeting
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12:32 <popey> how was the new year celebrations?
12:33 <JoeyChan> Yeah,  that was great  :D
12:33 <JoeyChan> And nice to c MEIZU device in MWC
12:33 <popey> yeah!
12:34 <popey> lots of videos and photos posted online I've seen
12:34 <JoeyChan> ╮(￣▽￣)╭
12:34 <JoeyChan> Can't wait to get one!
12:35 <JoeyChan> And lots of people asked me when can buy in China   :P
12:35 <popey> Yeah, I can't wait!
12:35 <popey> Looks like a nice device.
12:36 <popey> so, shorts.
12:36 <popey> How are things going with the C++ rewrite?
12:36 <JoeyChan> the API of the connectivity still broken, so I skip this one
12:37 <JoeyChan> now focusing the C++ database engine
12:38 <JoeyChan> And I remembered Roman emailed u week ago about design
12:38 <popey> yes, i haven't got back to him.
12:38 <popey> I spoke to our design team
12:39 <popey> They are all really busy with other apps - as usual.
12:39 <popey> However if we have some specific requests we can probably get answers from them.
12:39 <JoeyChan> I c
12:40 <JoeyChan> No worry,  the database part is a big guy to deal with    :P
12:41 <JoeyChan> And I did some research on some other RSS apps
12:41 <popey> Ok, any providers other than google?
12:41 <JoeyChan> Unfoturnally not ...
12:41 <JoeyChan> the most cases
12:42 <JoeyChan> There r some default rss feeds in their apps
12:42 <JoeyChan> and sync with some online services
12:42 <JoeyChan> like Feedly
12:43 <JoeyChan> Of course  the direct url input and opml support they all got
12:43 <popey> Right.
12:44 <JoeyChan> One idea came out today that I am using Shorts
12:45 <JoeyChan> I realise I am using a static IP to connect Google
12:45 <popey> maybe they're blocking _you_ ? :)
12:45 <JoeyChan> So maybe just put a optional static IP in shorts ??  :P
12:45 <popey> haha
12:46 <JoeyChan> Didn't test this,  will try soon
12:47 <JoeyChan> like using       http://111.222.333.4/rss/search?word=xxx       replace       http://googleapi.com/rss/search?word=xxx
12:49 <popey> Not sure that will scale well.
12:49 <JoeyChan> I don't know
12:49 <popey> Maybe detect that you're in China and use a different service, or use static IP?
12:49 <JoeyChan> will find out
12:49 <popey> But outside China use the hostname.
12:49 <popey> maybe.
12:49 <popey> It's a hack :)
12:49 <JoeyChan> haha
12:51 <JoeyChan> so,  any location service in UT now ?
12:51 <JoeyChan> that I can detect where I am ?
12:51 <popey> Yes, there's qtlocation api
12:51 <popey> yes.
12:51 <popey> other apps like clock use it.
12:51 <JoeyChan> good
12:51 <JoeyChan> if the static IP works
12:51 <JoeyChan> I will use the loaction API
12:52 <popey> Ok.
12:52 <popey> .oO( We should make it easy to use Tor / proxies on Ubuntu Touch )
12:52 <nik90> JoeyChan: clock uses the standard QtLocation API..it should work..we don't use IP-based location detection any more since it was found to be inaccurate in some areas
12:53 <popey> Bet it's pretty accurate at detecting between "China" and "Not China"
12:53 <JoeyChan> nik90:   I only need to use it if the user is in China   :P
12:53 <JoeyChan> haha
12:53 <nik90> popey: hehe yes it should be :)
12:54 <nik90> JoeyChan: oh ok..I understand
12:55 <JoeyChan> popey:  another question,  what's the startup time of your Shorts ?
12:55 <popey> Ok, anything else we need to discuss?
12:55 <popey> on bq?
12:55 <JoeyChan> any
12:55 <JoeyChan> n4 or bq
12:56 <popey> i only have bq... let me test
12:56 <JoeyChan> now it take more than 10s to luanch in my n4
12:56 <popey> 6s
12:56 <JoeyChan> that's long ..  :(
12:56 <popey> from clean, not started it at all today.
12:57 <popey> 4s on second start
12:57 <popey> The bq is not a fast phone.
12:57 <JoeyChan> Roman & I are discussing to imporve the startup time
12:58 <JoeyChan> In my own app (use c++),  only 2s is needed
12:58 <popey> wow
12:59 <JoeyChan> and that's not a full startup, and it takes another 2s to load other components
12:59 <JoeyChan> dynamic launch & load
13:00 <JoeyChan> Anyway it has better UX than pure qml app
13:01 <popey> Awesome.
13:01 <JoeyChan> any other to discuss ?   :)
13:02 <popey> Nope.
13:02 <popey> Not from me. Look forward to seeing a prototype of your C++ version
13:02 <JoeyChan> :)
13:03 <popey> Have a great weekend.
13:03 <JoeyChan> u 2
13:03 <popey> ping if you have anything to test :)
13:03 <JoeyChan> will :)
13:03 <popey> #endmeeting