13:01 <popey> #startmeeting Dekko meeting
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13:01 <popey> How are you guys?
13:02 <DanChapman> Doing good thanks
13:02 <boren> Great
13:02 <popey> Super
13:03 <DanChapman> i see gventuri is on his way
13:03 <popey> ...
13:03 <popey> :)
13:03 <popey> So it seems people were keen to be using dekko, going by the response on the list.
13:03 <popey> hi gventuri
13:04 <gventuri> popey: hi
13:04 <DanChapman> Yeah and we've had a couple of bug reports already. No show stoppers yet:-D
13:04 <DanChapman> hey gventuri
13:04 <gventuri> DanChapman: Hi!
13:04 <popey> https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1ygx0wrRKyFy7W_3qEYlflrBOlfBfHp9w41sOqTkXT4A/edit?usp=drive_web
13:04 <popey> putting that link there in case we need it.
13:05 <popey> DanChapman: boren do you have any specific outstanding design questions for gventuri ?
13:05 <gventuri> popey: cheers
13:05 <popey> gventuri: i sent a mail to the phone list with details of how to install latest dekko on phone.
13:05 <popey> you may want to take a look.
13:05 <popey> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg11006.html
13:06 <gventuri> yes, that's great
13:06 <gventuri> popey: I'll hve a look tomorrow. Today is mental
13:07 <popey> ok
13:07 <popey> gventuri: I will be in the office tomorrow, will you?
13:07 <DanChapman> so i've added one to the document about handling attachments atm we are just apssing them off to content-hub. But should we provide an option to display it if it's a mimetype we know we can display i.e plaintext and derivatives and images
13:07 <gventuri> popey: yes, to day I'm in the office
13:08 <gventuri> DanChapman: what did you have in mind? Show a preview in a separate view?
13:08 <gventuri> popey: I meant tomorrow
13:08 <popey> I agree that internally displaying simple formats would be desireable, and faster (probably?) than spawning off another app.
13:08 <gventuri> DanChapman: or show it inline>
13:08 <gventuri> ?
13:09 <popey> be nice to be able to "detach" an attachment though, such as a confirmation/ticket attachment that you want to keep
13:09 <gventuri> indeed
13:09 <DanChapman> gventuri yes it would probably just use a new basic view, showing stuff inline makes things a bit tricky. So that you can preview it before deciding you want to move it somewhere else through content hub
13:10 <gventuri> DanChapman: why not
13:10 <DanChapman> done!
13:10 <DanChapman> next....
13:10 <DanChapman> :)
13:10 <gventuri> DanChapman: you could use a new view with a standard header
13:10 <gventuri> DanChapman: for pics, you could use the one from camera roll, that auto-hides I believe
13:11 <gventuri> DanChapman: for other MIMEs, a standard header would probably be better
13:11 <DanChapman> gventuri: ooo i'll take a look at that one. And use the document name as the title?
13:11 <DanChapman> or just "AttachmentViewer"
13:11 <gventuri> DanChapman: document title
13:12 <DanChapman> sure
13:12 <gventuri> DanChapman: fall back ti filename if not available
13:12 <gventuri> DanChapman: you might have to change the default text size if chars > X
13:13 <gventuri> DanChapman: it would be great if we had dynamic type in the SDK
13:13 <DanChapman> Yes that would be a nice thing to have
13:16 <gventuri> I asked tiheum t join
13:16 <tiheum> hi
13:16 <gventuri> tiheum: do you have anything we can show them? a sneak preview of the visual design
13:16 <DanChapman> Ok and another thing at the moment the outgoing server settings are tied to an an account. Would it be better to tie them to a sender identity, so that a single account can have multiple outgoing servers to choose  or an outgoing server from a different account configured. At the moment it's tied to the outgoing server from account setup
13:16 <DanChapman> hey tiheum o/
13:17 <popey> yeah, i agree DanChapman
13:17 <popey> In the past I have used many incoming accounts but one outgoing
13:17 <DanChapman> popey: yeah i do the same in thunderbird.
13:18 <tiheum> gventuri: sure, what's the best way? Google drive?
13:18 <gventuri> DanChapman: I used to do the same in GMail. I have not been using that feature for a while
13:18 <popey> drive works.
13:18 <gventuri> tiheum: why not
13:18 <gventuri> ti
13:20 <DanChapman> right and i presume being able to select a "default" outgoing server would be good as well
13:20 <DanChapman> but that would be done on the sender identity level and not account/global
13:21 <gventuri> DanChapman: we need to look into that
13:21 <DanChapman> gventuri: ok then, do you want me to add this to the UX doc?
13:22 <gventuri> DanChapman: we could indeed have a default outgoing server
13:22 <gventuri> DanChapman: maybe we could add a tick to add an outgoing server to a list of defaults
13:23 <gventuri> DanChapman: then at account selection when entering the details you could simply select from a list
13:23 <gventuri> DanChapman: makes sense?
13:24 <tiheum> here's a few design explorations: https://drive.google.com/drive/#folders/0BzbnWoHmYF3afkZ1NGdfX1dydWt3c3plNG5haF9nUU9TUlRwd2V6T3czNVRZa0NvWkFXVms
13:24 <DanChapman> gventuri, yes that makes sense.
13:25 <DanChapman> tiheum: im getting the folder no longer exists with that link
13:26 <popey> hmm, works here.
13:26 <popey> its not shared to DanChapman tiheum
13:26 <tiheum> DanChapman: do you have a canonical eamil address?
13:26 <DanChapman> nope danchapman1819@gmail.com
13:26 <gventuri> yeah, I think the folder it's 'Canonical only'
13:26 <popey> can you also share with boren, whats your google account boren ?
13:26 <boren> bobo1993324@gmail.com
13:27 <popey> thanks
13:27 <gventuri> DanChapman: popey: do you guys have any other questions for me?
13:27 <popey> wow, those are very pretty!
13:27 <tiheum> DanChapman, boren: it might work now
13:27 <DanChapman> gventuri no they were my two concerns atm
13:27 <gventuri> DanChapman: thanks
13:28 <gventuri> DanChapman: ping me if you have more
13:28 <popey> thanks gventuri
13:28 <DanChapman> gventuri: will do, thanks!!
13:28 <DanChapman> oo very nice tiheum
13:29 <tiheum> thanks
13:29 <DanChapman> i like the blue header how
13:29 <DanChapman> rm how
13:30 <DanChapman> tiheum what would the red message corner triangle mean?
13:30 <popey> important
13:30 <popey> the prev screenshot shows [important] next to the avatar
13:30 <DanChapman> ahh yes i see now
13:30 <tiheum> ^this
13:31 <tiheum> not very obvious but we were not keen of adding another icon
13:32 <DanChapman> looks great!! :-D
13:34 <popey> Yeah.
13:35 <popey> Ok, so we're overrun a bit. DanChapman boren do you have anything else for tiheum or anything specific to discuss?
13:36 <DanChapman> popey: no not at the moment look forward to seeing some more from tiheum.
13:36 <popey> Great.
13:36 <boren> Not from me, beautiful work, tiheum
13:37 <tiheum> thank you
13:37 <popey> Ok, lets wrap!
13:37 <popey> #endmeeting