== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: File Manager meeting, 28 Oct at 19:00 — 19:34 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2014/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2014-10-28-19.00.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' https://code.launchpad.net/~nikwen/ubuntu-filemanager-app/translationfix/+merge/239663 looks like a nice simple fix
''LINK:'' http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/112.changes 



== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * popey (67)
 * ajalkane (33)
 * dpm_ (7)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 19:00 <popey> #startmeeting File Manager meeting

 19:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct 28 19:00:42 2014 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 19:00 <meetingology> 

 19:00 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 19:01 <popey> How was the journey back?

 19:01 <ajalkane> it was good. Watched half of Godzilla and passed out.

 19:01 <popey> hah!

 19:02 <dpm_> o/

 19:02 <popey> i see we have a couple of contributed merges.. at http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/

 19:03 <ajalkane> yeah the zips thing didn't work for me, unzip was missing. Not sure if it's coming with some future image update.

 19:03 <popey> https://code.launchpad.net/~nikwen/ubuntu-filemanager-app/translationfix/+merge/239663 looks like a nice simple fix

 19:03 <ajalkane> aye, I'll approve it right away

 19:03 <dpm_> hey popey, in addition to those, could we do an upload some time soon? It'd be good to get the new header work that ajalkane did last week available on the store

 19:03 <dpm_> it's looking fantastic

 19:03 <popey> dpm_: not without autopilot tests..

 19:04 <ajalkane> I fixed 'em damn autopilots friday night

 19:04 <popey> oh, did it pass?

 19:04 <popey> sweet!

 19:04 <popey> in that case, yes!

 19:04 <popey> I planned to earlier today but assumed (wrongly) that the AP tests were broken. Sorry.

 19:04 <ajalkane> But don't tell anyone I cheated a bit and disabled one

 19:04 <popey> ah, oops

 19:04 <dpm_> don't we have them?

 19:04 <popey> balloons won't like that

 19:04 <ajalkane> I'll make a bug report out of it so that I remember to look into it

 19:04 <dpm_> otherwise we shouldn't even have landed the branch

 19:05 <ajalkane> it's about the places as they're bottom edge stuff now, not sure how to autopilot it

 19:06 <popey> Yeah, we shouldn't really disable the tests.

 19:06 <ajalkane> I know, it was naughty but had to be done. It's one test luckily. I hope I can fix it during this week.

 19:06 <popey> we need someone with AP test skills to fix it, or indeed, you can ☻

 19:08 <popey> ajalkane: any idea when you'll get to look at that?

 19:09 <ajalkane> popey: not really. I hope during this week. Likely not today, definitely not tomorrow.

 19:10 <popey> dpm_: suggestions for who can look at this when balloons is away?

 19:10 <popey> everyone is stretched a bit thin

 19:10 <dpm_> popey, not really, elopio can, but he's about the only one. Perhaps brendand?

 19:10 <dpm_> or Carla

 19:11 <ajalkane> it's test_places.py, there's two tests that had to be disabled when not in tablet mode

 19:11 <ajalkane> I'll make a bug out of it

 19:11 <popey> great!

 19:11 <popey> I'll ping those guys/gals with the bug link and see if we can get it fixed.

 19:11 <popey> next time we'll have to get it fixed before landing, even if it's the most awesome landing in recent times ☻

 19:17 <popey> ok, have pinged those guys a mail

 19:17 <ajalkane> here you go https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1386850

 19:17 <popey> magic!

 19:17 <popey> thank you.

 19:18 <popey> so back to the unzip one...

 19:18 <popey> it calls unzip directly? https://code.launchpad.net/~nikwen/ubuntu-filemanager-app/zips/+merge/239662

 19:18 <ajalkane> yes

 19:18 <popey> is that wise? would it not be preferable to use a library ?

 19:19 <ajalkane> Says Ubuntu Download Manager or something like that does the same and that's why unzip is included in image

 19:19 <popey> ah

 19:19 <popey> well, unzip is included, yes. Just ran it on my phone

 19:19 <ajalkane> I don't know what that download manager is, but sure enough it calls unzip directly also

 19:19 <ajalkane> okay, on my r299 it wasn't

 19:19 <popey> interesting

 19:21 <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/112.changes

 19:21 <popey> landed in the rtm image there

 19:21 <popey> back on 16th

 19:21 <ajalkane> weird

 19:21 <popey> what channel you using?

 19:21 <popey> if you run "adb shell system-image-cli --info" it will tell you

 19:22 <ajalkane> devel-proposed

 19:22 <popey> ok, might want to switch then

 19:22 <popey> it won't wipe your device

 19:22 <ajalkane> aye? What's the recommended one?

 19:22 <popey> do a "ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed"

 19:22 <popey> thats what I'm on

 19:23 <popey> however I will chase up as to why the download manager update hasn't landed in devel-proposed, so leave that with me

 19:23 <popey> but that should get you going

 19:23 <popey> I'll comment on the merge too

 19:23 <ajalkane> ok, thanks! I'll start flashing

 19:26 <popey> this unzip feature is a can of worms

 19:26 <popey> there's bzip2 on the device too...

 19:26 <popey> do we support that? what about $other_random_archive_format ?

 19:26 <ajalkane> and tar I already got

 19:26 <ajalkane> so tar.gz is easyish to do also

 19:27 <ajalkane> IMO an own Archiver application that could open these up for all apps would be nicer

 19:27 <popey> hmmm

 19:27 <ajalkane> But I'm not sure how that'd work out with Content-Hub

 19:28 <popey> Could get messy

 19:28 <popey> send archive via content hub to Archiver

 19:28 <popey> Archiver sends back unpacked files via content-hub

 19:28 <popey> like that?

 19:28 <ajalkane> Sounds stupid as hell

 19:28 <ajalkane> I guess this is one place where being unconfined is needed so perhaps better support it in filemanager

 19:29 <popey> Hmm.

 19:29 <popey> This sounds like a topic for Ubuntu Open Week!

 19:29 <ajalkane> Though that would have the advantage of working from other apps

 19:29 <popey> (which is my way of changing the subject slightly to something I wanted to mention anyway)

 19:29 <ajalkane> the real problem is that Content-Hub doesn't have granular enough type system to recognize archives

 19:30 <popey> uh, not open week, online summit.. duh, stupid names.

 19:30 <popey> So, Ubuntu Online Summit, is 12-14 November

 19:31 <popey> We'll have a bunch of sessions about the core apps. We should have one about the file manager.

 19:31 <ajalkane> okay cool

 19:31 <popey> I'll ping you guys a mail about it. The goal being to plan what features we want in the app going forward.

 19:31 <popey> So we can prioritise and figure out what's important for the short term.

 19:32 <popey> We can type up our thoughts before hand in an etherpad and then discuss at the session.

 19:32 <popey> More details to follow in an email! ☻

 19:32 <ajalkane> Sounds good. If I remember the timing correctly it was during working hours so I'm doubtful I can make it online

 19:32 <ajalkane> that sounds good

 19:32 <popey> Ok. so more important that we get it down in a document before hand

 19:32 <popey> Good stuff.

 19:32 <popey> Okay, anything else?

 19:33 <ajalkane> Nope. There's enough bug reports to keep me busy for a while.

 19:33 <popey> :D

 19:33 <popey> Super. Thanks ajalkane !

 19:34 * popey goes to get beer!

 19:34 <ajalkane> Thank you, cya later!

 19:34 <popey> o/

 19:34 <popey> #endmeeting



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