19:00 <popey> #startmeeting File Manager meeting
19:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct 28 19:00:42 2014 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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19:01 <popey> How was the journey back?
19:01 <ajalkane> it was good. Watched half of Godzilla and passed out.
19:01 <popey> hah!
19:02 <dpm_> o/
19:02 <popey> i see we have a couple of contributed merges.. at http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/
19:03 <ajalkane> yeah the zips thing didn't work for me, unzip was missing. Not sure if it's coming with some future image update.
19:03 <popey> https://code.launchpad.net/~nikwen/ubuntu-filemanager-app/translationfix/+merge/239663 looks like a nice simple fix
19:03 <ajalkane> aye, I'll approve it right away
19:03 <dpm_> hey popey, in addition to those, could we do an upload some time soon? It'd be good to get the new header work that ajalkane did last week available on the store
19:03 <dpm_> it's looking fantastic
19:03 <popey> dpm_: not without autopilot tests..
19:04 <ajalkane> I fixed 'em damn autopilots friday night
19:04 <popey> oh, did it pass?
19:04 <popey> sweet!
19:04 <popey> in that case, yes!
19:04 <popey> I planned to earlier today but assumed (wrongly) that the AP tests were broken. Sorry.
19:04 <ajalkane> But don't tell anyone I cheated a bit and disabled one
19:04 <popey> ah, oops
19:04 <dpm_> don't we have them?
19:04 <popey> balloons won't like that
19:04 <ajalkane> I'll make a bug report out of it so that I remember to look into it
19:04 <dpm_> otherwise we shouldn't even have landed the branch
19:05 <ajalkane> it's about the places as they're bottom edge stuff now, not sure how to autopilot it
19:06 <popey> Yeah, we shouldn't really disable the tests.
19:06 <ajalkane> I know, it was naughty but had to be done. It's one test luckily. I hope I can fix it during this week.
19:06 <popey> we need someone with AP test skills to fix it, or indeed, you can ☻
19:08 <popey> ajalkane: any idea when you'll get to look at that?
19:09 <ajalkane> popey: not really. I hope during this week. Likely not today, definitely not tomorrow.
19:10 <popey> dpm_: suggestions for who can look at this when balloons is away?
19:10 <popey> everyone is stretched a bit thin
19:10 <dpm_> popey, not really, elopio can, but he's about the only one. Perhaps brendand?
19:10 <dpm_> or Carla
19:11 <ajalkane> it's test_places.py, there's two tests that had to be disabled when not in tablet mode
19:11 <ajalkane> I'll make a bug out of it
19:11 <popey> great!
19:11 <popey> I'll ping those guys/gals with the bug link and see if we can get it fixed.
19:11 <popey> next time we'll have to get it fixed before landing, even if it's the most awesome landing in recent times ☻
19:17 <popey> ok, have pinged those guys a mail
19:17 <ajalkane> here you go https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1386850
19:17 <popey> magic!
19:17 <popey> thank you.
19:18 <popey> so back to the unzip one...
19:18 <popey> it calls unzip directly? https://code.launchpad.net/~nikwen/ubuntu-filemanager-app/zips/+merge/239662
19:18 <ajalkane> yes
19:18 <popey> is that wise? would it not be preferable to use a library ?
19:19 <ajalkane> Says Ubuntu Download Manager or something like that does the same and that's why unzip is included in image
19:19 <popey> ah
19:19 <popey> well, unzip is included, yes. Just ran it on my phone
19:19 <ajalkane> I don't know what that download manager is, but sure enough it calls unzip directly also
19:19 <ajalkane> okay, on my r299 it wasn't
19:19 <popey> interesting
19:21 <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/112.changes
19:21 <popey> landed in the rtm image there
19:21 <popey> back on 16th
19:21 <ajalkane> weird
19:21 <popey> what channel you using?
19:21 <popey> if you run "adb shell system-image-cli --info" it will tell you
19:22 <ajalkane> devel-proposed
19:22 <popey> ok, might want to switch then
19:22 <popey> it won't wipe your device
19:22 <ajalkane> aye? What's the recommended one?
19:22 <popey> do a "ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed"
19:22 <popey> thats what I'm on
19:23 <popey> however I will chase up as to why the download manager update hasn't landed in devel-proposed, so leave that with me
19:23 <popey> but that should get you going
19:23 <popey> I'll comment on the merge too
19:23 <ajalkane> ok, thanks! I'll start flashing
19:26 <popey> this unzip feature is a can of worms
19:26 <popey> there's bzip2 on the device too...
19:26 <popey> do we support that? what about $other_random_archive_format ?
19:26 <ajalkane> and tar I already got
19:26 <ajalkane> so tar.gz is easyish to do also
19:27 <ajalkane> IMO an own Archiver application that could open these up for all apps would be nicer
19:27 <popey> hmmm
19:27 <ajalkane> But I'm not sure how that'd work out with Content-Hub
19:28 <popey> Could get messy
19:28 <popey> send archive via content hub to Archiver
19:28 <popey> Archiver sends back unpacked files via content-hub
19:28 <popey> like that?
19:28 <ajalkane> Sounds stupid as hell
19:28 <ajalkane> I guess this is one place where being unconfined is needed so perhaps better support it in filemanager
19:29 <popey> Hmm.
19:29 <popey> This sounds like a topic for Ubuntu Open Week!
19:29 <ajalkane> Though that would have the advantage of working from other apps
19:29 <popey> (which is my way of changing the subject slightly to something I wanted to mention anyway)
19:29 <ajalkane> the real problem is that Content-Hub doesn't have granular enough type system to recognize archives
19:30 <popey> uh, not open week, online summit.. duh, stupid names.
19:30 <popey> So, Ubuntu Online Summit, is 12-14 November
19:31 <popey> We'll have a bunch of sessions about the core apps. We should have one about the file manager.
19:31 <ajalkane> okay cool
19:31 <popey> I'll ping you guys a mail about it. The goal being to plan what features we want in the app going forward.
19:31 <popey> So we can prioritise and figure out what's important for the short term.
19:32 <popey> We can type up our thoughts before hand in an etherpad and then discuss at the session.
19:32 <popey> More details to follow in an email! ☻
19:32 <ajalkane> Sounds good. If I remember the timing correctly it was during working hours so I'm doubtful I can make it online
19:32 <ajalkane> that sounds good
19:32 <popey> Ok. so more important that we get it down in a document before hand
19:32 <popey> Good stuff.
19:32 <popey> Okay, anything else?
19:33 <ajalkane> Nope. There's enough bug reports to keep me busy for a while.
19:33 <popey> :D
19:33 <popey> Super. Thanks ajalkane !
19:34 * popey goes to get beer!
19:34 <ajalkane> Thank you, cya later!
19:34 <popey> o/
19:34 <popey> #endmeeting