== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Music app meeting, 06 Oct at 12:00 — 12:50 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2014/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2014-10-06-12.00.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/music-app/+spec/music-remix-2.0 
''LINK:'' http://imgur.com/GqtRI5a,yKR0hof 
''LINK:'' http://imgur.com/cL3E0Ni 
''LINK:'' http://people.canonical.com/~alan/music_remix/readme.txt 



== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * ahayzen (89)
 * popey (55)
 * jounih (35)
 * vthompson (30)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 12:00 <popey> #startmeeting Music app meeting

 12:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Oct  6 12:00:53 2014 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 12:00 <meetingology> 

 12:00 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 12:01 <popey> So yes, we need a click built - or more than one...

 12:01 <ahayzen> yep

 12:01 <popey> we can have a readme which explains what each is and what to expect.

 12:01 <popey> I am happy to build them.

 12:01 <ahayzen> ok cool

 12:01 <popey> which two branches do you want building?

 12:02 <ahayzen> lp:music-app/remix

 12:02 <ahayzen> lp:~andrew-hayzen/music-app/remix-add-card-view

 12:03 <popey> Ok, will build and upload in a little while

 12:03 <ahayzen> cool thanks

 12:03 <ahayzen> so we're waiting on design on a few things...

 12:04 <ahayzen> basically this work item "[jounihelminen] Songs, Artists and Queue view page in list format: INPROGRESS"

 12:04 * popey pings jouni

 12:04 <ahayzen> we also have some further questions...

 12:04 <ahayzen> * Multiple cover art 2x2, 2x1, 1x1 ?

 12:04 <ahayzen> * Playlist selector (when adding to playlist), should it be a grid/list?

 12:04 <ahayzen> * Design input on dialogues

 12:05 <popey> he doesn't seem to be about right now.

 12:06 <ahayzen> popey, work item wise we are pretty much done on wk40 (other than cardview) and we've already started things in wk41

 12:06 <popey> We should ping him a mail with this list, and if there's any work items resulting they should be added to the blueprint

 12:06 <ahayzen> yep agreed

 12:06 <popey> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/music-app/+spec/music-remix-2.0

 12:07 <popey> can you join me in http://pad.ubuntu.com/MusicAppReadMe ?

 12:07 <ahayzen> victor put some screenshots of the app into the presentation as well https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1L3eGhOe-0eEmKtUurthpUEaweFradSFb3t6W-KiIZMU/edit#slide=id.g486d6e89e_034

 12:08 <ahayzen> popey, so are we just listen what we expect to work? or what is different or?

 12:08 <popey> I can't parse that sentence.

 12:09 <ahayzen> haha oh god i haven't woken up..

 12:09 <popey> hah

 12:09 <ahayzen> popey, are we just listing what are expecting to work in the remix? or the differences to trunk or?

 12:09 <popey> just a brief "this is what's changed, this is what's known to work/not work

 12:09 <ahayzen> vthompson, o/

 12:09 <popey> hi vthompson

 12:09 <ahayzen> cool

 12:10 <ahayzen> vthompson, we're just working on this http://pad.ubuntu.com/MusicAppReadMe

 12:10 <vthompson> Hey guys

 12:10 <ahayzen> popey, so u have "music app click" and "card view" for the two separate clicks right?

 12:10 <ahayzen> popey, then we list under each?

 12:10 <popey> I will do yes

 12:10 <ahayzen> cool

 12:11 <popey> will re-word it though

 12:11 <popey> one other thing I wanted to mention. It's been noticed that the artwork differs between the music scope and the music app

 12:11 <ahayzen> popey, u may need to clear ur .cache/media-art

 12:11 <ahayzen> popey, but we warned lots of ur art disappears

 12:12 <ahayzen> popey, so backup lol

 12:12 <vthompson> And it may differ in some views that might not use the embedded art

 12:12 <ahayzen> popey, basically it is using the old cover art from last.fm if u still have them locally

 12:12 <ahayzen> popey, and what victor said .. we support embedded art

 12:12 <popey> the scope uses artwork from online.. always, right?

 12:12 <vthompson> Also, people may think that due to the Scope using Artist art in some of the views

 12:12 <popey> yes.

 12:13 <popey> We should fix this somehow, it's kinda confusing.

 12:13 <ahayzen> popey, embedded then online

 12:13 <ahayzen> popey, and soon hopefully... embedded... art in same folder... online (in that order)

 12:14 <ahayzen> popey, oh the scope yeah i don't know what they do

 12:15 <popey> its always online i think.

 12:15 <ahayzen> vthompson, if they are just listening to model.art like we do from ms2 ? then surely it would be the same?

 12:15 <vthompson> ahayzen, I would assume so

 12:16 <ahayzen> vthompson, is there anything else i've forgotten? http://pad.ubuntu.com/MusicAppReadMe

 12:17 <vthompson> It seems like the scope doesn't actually use the embedded

 12:17 <ahayzen> ok maybe we should poke some scope guys and have a chat with them

 12:18 <popey> I think we should file a bug and get both parts to be consistent.

 12:18 <ahayzen> yep

 12:19 <vthompson> Hm, or maybe I'm wrong. Seems some cover art has changed on me. Maybe a cached copy disappeared. They seem consistent now, as far as I can tell

 12:19 <popey> let me remove my art and test

 12:20 <ahayzen> yeah tbh mine look consistent

 12:21 <vthompson> And I also know that both seem to pull from the file itself

 12:22 * ahayzen wants this to land so all of his music has cover art :) https://code.launchpad.net/~jpakkane/thumbnailer/standalone-albumart/+merge/235637

 12:22 <popey> nope, mine are inconsistent

 12:22 * popey screenshots

 12:22 <ahayzen> did u try turning it off and on again?

 12:23 <popey> yes

 12:23 <popey> :þ

 12:23 <ahayzen> hah

 12:23 <popey> http://imgur.com/GqtRI5a,yKR0hof

 12:24 <popey> http://imgur.com/cL3E0Ni

 12:24 <ahayzen> popey, what am i comparing they are both the scope?

 12:24 <popey> note daft punk at the top in the scope shows one artwork, the albums and tracks below (coming from music app) are the right one for that album

 12:24 <vthompson> popey, yea, I'm not following

 12:25 <ahayzen> popey, no the artists use a different source to albums

 12:25 <popey> right, and that's what is confusing

 12:25 <ahayzen> popey, that is because artists can have multiple albums

 12:25 <ahayzen> other apps/platforms do the same

 12:26 <popey> right, but I only have one album from each artist on my device

 12:26 <popey> hence the confusion

 12:26 <ahayzen> popey, because which cover art from which album should it choose for "daft punk"

 12:26 <ahayzen> popey, but u can have online sources as well on the scopes

 12:26 <ahayzen> popey, in summary that is not us

 12:26 <jounih> hey

 12:26 <ahayzen> jounih, o/

 12:27 <jounih> hey

 12:27 <vthompson> right, and it's also expected in the scope

 12:27 <vthompson> hey!

 12:27 <ahayzen> yep

 12:27 <popey> It may be expected, but it's still confusing ☻

 12:27 <jounih> sorry missed the beginning

 12:27 <popey> I'll file a bug.

 12:27 <ahayzen> jounih, no worries

 12:27 <popey> ahayzen: vthompson I'll file a bug

 12:27 <ahayzen> popey, cool :)

 12:27 <popey> I'll put both the scope and the music app on it though.

 12:27 <popey> jounih: ahayzen had some requests for you..

 12:28 <vthompson> popey, OK, maybe jounih has Artist tab designs that have us make use of the Artist art as well :)

 12:28 <jounih> shoot

 12:28 <popey> 13:04:06 < ahayzen> basically this work item "[jounihelminen] Songs, Artists and Queue view page in list format: INPROGRESS"

 12:28 <popey> 13:04:35 < ahayzen> we also have some further questions...

 12:28 <popey> 13:04:37 < ahayzen> * Multiple cover art 2x2, 2x1, 1x1 ?

 12:28 <popey> 13:04:37 < ahayzen> * Playlist selector (when adding to playlist), should it be a grid/list?

 12:28 <popey> 13:04:37 < ahayzen> * Design input on dialogues

 12:28 <ahayzen> jounih, ^^ thanks popey :)

 12:28 <ahayzen> vthompson, yep hehe :)

 12:28 <jounih> ok, yep, should have songs, artists and queue views finished today

 12:28 <vthompson> awesome!

 12:28 <jounih> what’s multiple cover art? the grid in playlist?

 12:29 <vthompson> precisely

 12:29 <ahayzen> jounih, yeah

 12:29 <ahayzen> jounih, we just wanted to check design on that

 12:29 <vthompson> And potentially in the Artist tab, depending on what we should do there

 12:29 <ahayzen> yep

 12:29 <jounih> ok i think 4 covers in the space of one would do it, like in the design?

 12:29 <ahayzen> ...which design?

 12:29 <jounih> hold on

 12:31 <ahayzen> vthompson, arg jenkins still failed aha

 12:31 <vthompson> ahayzen, bummer.

 12:31 <ahayzen> vthompson, closer though only 3 left

 12:31 <jounih> ahayzen: ahh looks like I hadn’t uploaded the playlist design. uploaded now, in the same dropbox folder. here is a direct link https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hwpmf9i8f8axysd/AABy8dttpsKu7fxB01jKEAQra?dl=0

 12:31 <vthompson> ahayzen, not bad. Easier to debug just 1 at a time then

 12:32 <ahayzen> jounih, ah cool thanks

 12:32 <ahayzen> jounih, so if there were only 2 different cover arts would you still do 2x2? or 2x1 or?

 12:33 <vthompson> jounih, thanks. ahayzen looks like we really will only need the 2x2 component to make that work as a drop in for what we have now

 12:33 <jounih> playlist selector (when adding to playlist) - grid/list - maybe a grid would be ok, since you already have that view? Will need an action for “New playlist” at the header

 12:33 <ahayzen> jounih, yeah we have a "+" in the header at the moment and swipe actions on tracks

 12:33 <ahayzen> vthompson, yep do u want to do that?

 12:34 <jounih> ahayzen: ahh good question. So if a playlist has less than 4 cover arts, what do we do? I would suggest just 1 cover art until we reach 4 maybe? 2x1 would look a bit weird i think

 12:34 <vthompson> jounih, ahayzen, so for the playlist selector it might be better to have a list so the user doesn't have to scroll through a lot of data

 12:34 <jounih> vthompson: you think you’d have more than 20 playlists?

 12:34 <ahayzen> jounih, hmmm but then u have to have 4 different arts until it changes

 12:34 <vthompson> jounih, ahayzen, what Gmail does for 3 person convos is have 1x2 icons

 12:35 <ahayzen> vthompson, yeah +1 to that

 12:35 <vthompson> I can certainly see having around 10

 12:35 <vthompson> Grid only shows 4, but I agree, it's not as much data

 12:35 <jounih> i think the gridview is ok for 10? I dunno. I’m easy, either works

 12:36 <vthompson> It's just the selector isn't there for you to gaze at your beautiful cover art... it's there just to select the proper name of a list

 12:36 <ahayzen> yeah i would weigh towards a list

 12:36 <jounih> ok i’m ok with 2x1 cover art too. would keep the size of those the same as when 4x1

 12:36 <jounih> ok list is fine - maybe you can use the same list design as for the artists/queue listview - I’ll send later today

 12:37 <vthompson> hm, maybe we aren't on the same page for 2x1 or 1x2. Really that means 1 on top (rectangle), and 2 on bottom (both squares)

 12:37 <ahayzen> vthompson, maybe it is best if u take a screenshot of gmail?

 12:37 <jounih> ahh you mean you’d crop the cover art?

 12:37 <ahayzen> vthompson, as that is basically the same

 12:38 <jounih> sounds like a reasonable suggestion, just go with it and we can see how it looks

 12:38 <ahayzen> ok will do

 12:38 <ahayzen> jounih, FYI the cardview is nearly working :) https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3XynHVKfrvMNDBRUE5GWGZKTEE/edit

 12:38 <jounih> what was the last question.. design input on dialogues?

 12:39 <ahayzen> jounih, ok so at the moment we have popups ... eg "enter the name of playlist" ..."edit name of playlist" etc

 12:39 <jounih> ahayzen: nice! looking pretty sweet. now we just need to get to the bottom of that resolution issue

 12:39 <ahayzen> yep

 12:39 <jounih> ahayzen: ok so you’ll need design for those as well - ok will add to my todo

 12:39 <ahayzen> jounih, yep we just wanted to check it was on your radar

 12:40 <jounih> can you send screenshots of your current dialogs and I can use them as a base

 12:40 <ahayzen> jounih, we are hopefully gonna push out a click package in a bit that u can play with

 12:40 <ahayzen> jounih, but i can screenshot as well if needed

 12:40 <vthompson> jounih, ahayzen, looks like gmail is 1 on the left and 2 on the right: http://i.imgur.com/1Gxseez.png

 12:40 <jounih> that sounds great! should get a feel for the transitions and responsiveness with the click package too

 12:41 <ahayzen> jounih, yep just note that half the stuff is legacy half is new... we are making a list of what we expect to be working

 12:41 <jounih> vthompson: ok I see what you mean. Yeah you’ll end up cropping the cover art in half, but I guess that’s ok. I don’t mind if its cropped horiz or vertically

 12:41 <jounih> ahayzen: zure

 12:41 <popey> ahayzen: click package uploaded

 12:41 <ahayzen> popey, \o/ thanks

 12:42 <jounih> popey: how do i install the click mate?

 12:42 <ahayzen> jounih, instructions are on the blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/music-app/+spec/music-remix-2.0

 12:42 <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/music_remix/readme.txt

 12:42 <ahayzen> and that

 12:42 <jounih> okey

 12:42 <jounih> will give a shot now

 12:43 <ahayzen> jounih, just note that the second click (the cardview one) may not be totally insync with trunk so treat the cardview one as a demo of just the cards

 12:43 <jounih> ok

 12:44 <jounih> i know its just the first iteration, will be gentle with feedback :)

 12:44 <vthompson> jounih, also in the spec the last slide has a view that won't be in the click (Songs tab), but it sounds like you'll make a formal design today

 12:44 <jounih> ok - yep will get that over to you guys today

 12:44 <ahayzen> vthompson, shame i couldn't get lp:~andrew-hayzen/music-app/remix-remove-legacy-toolbar passing in time as that has the switch to the full view as default

 12:45 <jounih> ahh new image today… will install that first

 12:45 <popey> ahayzen: we can build another click in a couple of days.

 12:45 <popey> release early, release often

 12:45 <ahayzen> popey, \o/

 12:45 <jounih> nice :)

 12:45 <ahayzen> yep that sounds familiar

 12:46 <vthompson> Release when popey or balloons decides to upload to the store :)

 12:46 <popey> lolz

 12:46 <ahayzen> :)

 12:46 <ahayzen> reminds me i need to talk to balloons about CI..

 12:46 <popey> Ok, anything else? is the blueprint up to date now? Anything need adding as tasks for jounih for example based on the above?

 12:47 <vthompson> popey, I don't believe so. But we'll need implementation tasks once we have additional designs.

 12:47 <ahayzen> yep

 12:47 <vthompson> Matter of fact, we can add a task for us to do the 2x2 cover art

 12:47 <jounih> i need to provide feedback/designs for dialogues

 12:48 <jounih> dialogs

 12:48 <ahayzen> dialogues .. ur in the UK ;)

 12:48 <vthompson> ha

 12:48 <jounih> haha

 12:49 <popey> "ur"

 12:49 <vthompson> "UK"

 12:49 <ahayzen> also near "landan"

 12:49 <popey> Ok. Anything else?

 12:49 <ahayzen> not from me

 12:50 <popey> Ok, lets wrap then. Thanks chaps.

 12:50 <ahayzen> thanks popey :)

 12:50 <popey> np

 12:50 <popey> #endmeeting



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