13:01 <popey> #startmeeting Calendar app meeting
13:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Oct  2 13:01:57 2014 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:02 <popey> How we doing?
13:02 <mihir> we , ehehe..doing great :D
13:03 <kunal> doing fine, how about you>
13:04 <popey> Not bad!
13:04 <popey> So, mihir you spoke to renatu earlier in the week about the blocking bugs, right?
13:04 <mihir> popey, yes
13:05 <mihir> popey, already updated on appropriate bug
13:05 <popey> Ok.
13:05 <mihir> popey, but i guess we have to wait till post rtm for those bugs
13:06 <popey> yes. We can beat renatu up at the sprint ☻
13:06 <mihir> heheheh
13:06 <renatu> hey, I am in another meeting but  I am reading that :D
13:06 <popey> :D
13:06 <mihir> renatu, :D
13:07 <popey> he knows we love him
13:07 <popey> we have a few merges at http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/ outstanding
13:07 <popey> shall we go through them?
13:07 <mihir> sure
13:07 <kunal> yes, I just updated my branches
13:07 <popey> https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/YearView-curmonth-scroll/+merge/230781 ready to land?
13:07 <popey> sweet!
13:07 <kunal> it should be ready to land
13:08 <popey> balloons: you had it needs fixing, you happy now?
13:08 <mihir> popey, i have three branches almost ready to land :)
13:08 <popey> "almost" ☻
13:09 <mihir> nik90, will be doing testing for one, i am working on other one to fix
13:09 <popey> https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/RemoveGuest/+merge/235393 is the next one on the list...
13:09 <mihir> this requires review , https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/1373201/+merge/236260
13:09 <balloons> popey, yes for kunal's branch
13:09 <popey> balloons: thanks!
13:09 * popey top approves
13:10 <balloons> ohh. I just approved. Make sure you timedate it after me
13:11 <kunal> this is also ready to approve
13:11 <kunal> https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/MonthComp-Events/+merge/235974
13:11 <mihir> kunal, you did merge trunk ?
13:11 <kunal> yes
13:11 <mihir> ahh done thanks :)
13:11 <popey> excellent
13:11 <mihir> top approved :)
13:12 <kunal> popey,
13:12 <kunal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1339020
13:12 * popey clicks
13:12 <kunal> so you think its only UI issue ?
13:13 <popey> yes
13:13 <kunal> so you want to launch dayview on click ?
13:13 <kunal> or we can also show dialog box with event list ?
13:14 <popey> hmmm
13:14 <popey> that does make sense.
13:15 <popey> oof, i have an event which has the date "DD-99-YYYY" is that a translation error?
13:15 <kunal> popey, where ?
13:15 <popey> in event details
13:15 <kunal> seems like
13:15 <mihir> opps, popey  for all the events ?
13:15 <popey> yes
13:16 <kunal> popey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1371871
13:16 <kunal> Do you have some idea, how we can get  account owner ?
13:17 <popey> can we get that from online-accounts?
13:18 <popey> http://imgur.com/MG3HfdE do you guys not see that on the event page?
13:19 <kunal> this seems old branch ?
13:19 <popey> you have the email address at the top of the event...
13:19 * mihir looks
13:19 <kunal> current design looks different
13:19 <popey> could be, maybe we haven't updated in the store recently?
13:19 <mihir> popey, it is up-to date in store
13:20 <popey> trunk is r486
13:20 <kunal> popey, email ? you are talking about calendar name ?
13:20 <popey> store is r484
13:20 <popey> yes
13:20 <popey> after the date/time
13:20 <kunal> I guess, we can use that, if EDS will use that for all account
13:20 <kunal> what if someone changes calendar name, then
13:20 <popey> yeah, might not be reliable.
13:20 <kunal> it won't be email address
13:21 <popey> hmm, we must have some way to figure out which attendee is "me"?
13:22 <kunal> popey, which API actually sync events from google
13:22 <kunal> not EDS plugin right >
13:22 <kunal> ?
13:22 <kunal> sync-evolution ?
13:22 <popey> yes.
13:23 <kunal> I think sync-evolution or EDS plug-in should be able to insert some meta data into "Collection"(Calendar) which we can use from calendar
13:24 <kunal> metadata, I mean owner of account
13:24 <popey> hmmm
13:24 <kunal> as I think it know which account it uses, it must be using online account and have access to its property ?
13:25 <kunal> can we have multiple google account on phone ?
13:27 <mihir> i guess we can add multiple account
13:28 <popey> yes
13:28 <popey> I have two on mine
13:28 <popey> and in the calendar i see events from both
13:28 <kunal> ok, then I think account info should come from EDS plug-in
13:29 <popey> and obviously in the event detail display we can see who is/isnt attending by the green ticks next to them.
13:29 <kunal> right
13:32 <popey> I'm not sure I'd tag that as "high" priority bug btw, bt if there's no other priorities, then it can be ㋛
13:33 <mihir> popey, one more question
13:33 <mihir> in weekview it is impossible to read events
13:33 <mihir> what wwould you suggest ?
13:33 <mihir> would*
13:33 <popey> hmm, yeah, it's a bit messy with lots of events
13:34 <mihir> popey, can we just remove all the stuffs inside bubble and just show bubble ?
13:35 <popey> well at the moment on my device in week view we have two issues. 1) text hard to read, and 2) blobs obscure time.
13:35 <mihir> i don't get you on 2nd , you mean the startime endTime cuts off right?
13:36 <popey> photo coming...
13:37 <popey> http://imgur.com/Gy0w68O
13:37 <popey> look at the calendar meeting...
13:37 <popey> 14:00 obscured by the blob
13:37 <nik90> popey: how are you running an older version of calenda r app?
13:37 <nik90> popey: those event bubbles are supposed to be colored
13:38 <popey> let me see if there's any updates
13:38 <popey> i did have to flash my phone into the past recently
13:38 <popey> it says up to date
13:38 <popey> wonder if click is in a mess
13:38 <mihir> popey, hmm i can see that.
13:38 <mihir> popey, i have the latest calendar from store , on RTM
13:39 <popey> balls
13:39 <popey> i have a crappy version on here
13:39 <popey> sorry ☹
13:39 <mihir> hehehe
13:39 <popey> i have "0.4.latest"
13:40 <popey> which must have been from testing at some point
13:40 <mihir> grrr
13:40 <popey> reminds me, need to update the screenshots
13:40 <mihir> Thank you :D
13:41 <popey> omg, this is way better
13:41 <mihir> tbh, store has very crappy screenshots
13:41 <popey> yes, it does.
13:41 <mihir> \m/ , look at details too that issues should have gone i beleive
13:41 <mihir> believe*
13:41 <popey> balloons: do you have access to that?
13:41 <nik90> regardless the issue in the week view persists
13:41 <popey> OMG! this is amazing
13:41 <mihir> yes nik90 it does.
13:41 <davmor2> popey: that oggcamp looks a bit important if it takes all day ;)
13:42 <popey> i have two phones, I happened to pick up the one with a crappy build on it, sorry.
13:42 <nik90> popey, kunal: How does iOS handle events in the week view?
13:42 <nik90> I know google calendar hides the events details and show blank rectangles if it is too crowded
13:42 <nik90> curious if there are other ways to solve it
13:43 <popey> ios doesnt have a week view
13:43 <popey> year, month, day.
13:43 <mihir> ohhh
13:43 <nik90> wow that's surprising
13:43 <kunal> but BB10, shows something similar
13:44 <mihir> kunal, just bubbles right?
13:44 <balloons> popey, I can update screenshots
13:44 <popey> balloons: good. thanks.
13:44 <mihir> thanks balloons  :)
13:44 <nik90> kunal: got a screenshot?
13:45 <popey> day http://imgur.com/WuV9i5m
13:45 <popey> month http://imgur.com/7W9u3z8
13:45 <popey> yeah http://imgur.com/nriJLv1
13:45 <popey> the ios day view is actually our week view, but only showing one days events at a time
13:45 <davmor2> http://berryflow.com/2014/07/visual-comparison-bb10-ios8-android-l/ number 4.
13:46 <popey> ta
13:46 <nik90> davmor2: that's month view though
13:46 <kunal> I can get screenshots
13:46 <kunal> let me cehck
13:46 <popey> http://imgur.com/WuV9i5m on ios is a hybrid of our week and day views
13:48 <kunal> BTW, I like their time picker
13:48 <kunal> http://developer.blackberry.com/design/bb10/10_3_visual_updates.html
13:48 <davmor2> nik90: http://helpblog.blackberry.com/2013/10/five-tip-friday-blackberry-10-calendar/
13:50 <mihir> hmm also kunal what would you suggest for time in Weekview
13:50 <mihir> it hides now for only Sun, if event on that time.
13:50 <mihir> that change is too required and more IMP
13:51 <popey> i think deep down kunal just wants to build the bb calendar app ☻
13:51 <mihir> hehehe
13:51 <kunal> right :)
13:51 <kunal> I use it lot
13:52 <nik90> :D
13:53 <popey> ok, so I think we need to come up with a solution to the day/week view issue.
13:53 <mihir> popey, isn't that just Weekview ?
13:53 <popey> yes, but look at the ios one
13:54 <popey> they don't have a "week view" as such
13:54 <popey> well, they do, you can see the week along the top, but only one days events
13:54 <mihir> popey, yeah , if we think in other way
13:54 <popey> my point was do we smoosh the two views together, or have some other solution
13:54 <popey> or just drop the week view?
13:54 <mihir> popey, yes i saw that.
13:54 <mihir> got it :)
13:54 <popey> dropping a view should not be considered a bad thing.
13:55 <mihir> hmm
13:55 <kunal> I got this
13:55 <kunal> http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-leaked-beta-os-f395/10-3-0-700-screenshot-thread-941062/
13:56 <popey> thats the same as ios
13:56 <popey> show one day with the day numbers along the top
13:56 <popey> http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/bb10-leaked-beta-os-f395/279958d1403569960t-10-3-0-700-screenshot-thread-img_20140624_022746.png
13:57 <mihir> popey, what actually happens on iOS when you move to next day
13:57 <popey> the day slides across
13:57 <mihir> it increment a day in header or it change week after it ends
13:57 <popey> like on our day view when you slide
13:57 <popey> and you can jump from one day to another with the numbers at the top
13:58 <mihir> okay
13:58 <popey> so the quick-and-easy solution for us, is 1) drop week view, 2) add day numbers to day view.
13:58 <popey> (just an option)
13:58 <mihir> Hmmm
14:02 <popey> Have a think.
14:02 <kunal> BTW
14:02 <kunal> http://imgur.com/vTuhuna,8DUyYQC#1
14:02 <kunal> this is how week view looks on bb10
14:02 <popey> thats interesting
14:03 <popey> so just blocks with no titles
14:03 <popey> certainly an option
14:03 <kunal> http://imgur.com/vTuhuna,8DUyYQC#0
14:03 <mihir> yup , google does the same
14:03 <popey> good for an overview of the week
14:03 <mihir> popey, i gave that as first solution heheh
14:03 <popey> you did ☻
14:03 <popey> I'm happy to try either/both
14:03 <mihir> <mihir> popey, can we just remove all the stuffs inside bubble and just show bubble ?
14:03 <mihir> \m/
14:03 <popey> look at all the time we'd save if we just listened to mihir ! :D
14:04 <mihir> hehehe :D
14:04 <popey> seriously though, it's a good idea, clearly.
14:04 <popey> ok. anything else to discuss?
14:04 <mihir> popey, lets do that , rather than dropping whole weekview
14:04 <popey> ya
14:04 <popey> +1
14:04 <mihir> nope nothing from my side :)
14:04 <popey> note bb has no times in the block either
14:05 <mihir> yes, we are blocking time for first day  of week as of now due to sapce issues i guess
14:05 <nik90> yeah I like the bb 10 weekview
14:05 <nik90> much cleaner
14:06 <mihir> nik90, it is same as google calendar I guess
14:06 <nik90> almost
14:06 <popey> also, one tiny thing
14:07 <popey> http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-10-02-150701.png
14:07 <popey> http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-10-02-150709.png
14:07 <popey> http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-10-02-150716.png
14:07 <popey> thats me scrolling up
14:07 <popey> note the 2 all day events obscure the text briefly when it's at the top
14:07 <popey> only a minor thing
14:08 <mihir> :)
14:09 <kunal> I tink that's flaoting above the timeline?
14:09 <popey> yes
14:09 <nik90> I don't think it should float
14:09 <nik90> it should be above the timeline
14:09 <kunal> ok
14:10 <nik90> like before
14:10 <nik90> agree?
14:10 <kunal> I had another screenshot :) http://imgur.com/kswykz7
14:10 <kunal> for all day events
14:10 <popey> oh nice!
14:11 <nik90> cool
14:12 <nik90> with a nice slide in animation
14:12 <kunal> right :)
14:12 <nik90> btw we need vertical dividers in the week view
14:12 <nik90> there's already a bug about it
14:13 <mihir> yes we have bug for that
14:14 <popey> Ok. Anything else?
14:14 <mihir> nope , that was long meeting though :D
14:14 <kunal> no, nothing from me
14:15 <popey> Thanks chaps! Really great work as always!
14:16 <popey> #endmeeting