13:03 <popey> #startmeeting Calendar app meeting 13:03 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Sep 25 13:03:30 2014 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 13:03 <meetingology> 13:03 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 13:03 <popey> How are you guys? 13:03 <nik90> hey 13:04 <nik90> Good. We have landed some more bunch of redesign for agenda view and event details view. 13:04 <popey> ooh! 13:04 <nik90> I think once we have Akiva's branch approved and merged, we can release a new calendar to the store 13:04 <popey> which branch? 13:05 <mihir> hey popey :) doing great busy busy 13:05 <nik90> https://code.launchpad.net/~akiva/ubuntu-calendar-app/All-Day-Events-Button/+merge/235396 13:05 <mihir> nik90: yeah it is pending on me..i'll do that today..i had very bad issues with interent since last one week, i'll do that by tonight 13:06 <nik90> mihir: no worries, I am a bit busy to help with that 13:07 <popey> no worries mihir ☻ 13:07 <popey> hey kunal 13:07 <kunal> hi 13:07 <nik90> hey kunal 13:08 <mihir> hey kunal 13:08 <popey> Just so you know I'll be around tomorrow morning but not from lunchtime onwards as I'm on a train to XDA Dev Con where I'm giving a talk about how awesome you guys are ☻ 13:08 <nik90> ooh XDA Dev Con...cool 13:08 <mihir> popey: ahhh that's awesome..is it gonna stream somewhere ? 13:08 <nik90> take lot of pictures..we don't mind selfies 13:08 <kunal> nice 13:08 <popey> I don't know. 13:08 <popey> haha 13:09 <mihir> hhehehehe :P 13:09 <popey> Are there any other merges that we need to get in before we upload tomorrow? 13:09 <nik90> is dave joining you? It would be nice to see a stream somewhere.. 13:09 <popey> https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/YearView-curmonth-scroll/+merge/230781 is still a problem? 13:10 <popey> no, dholbach is going to be there 13:10 <mihir> popey: from my side no , except the one , which is loading time 13:10 <kunal> popey, balloons did not provided any info yet 13:10 * popey pokes balloons 13:10 <kunal> but if you agree for workaround , I can try to resolve it 13:11 <mihir> kunal: would be great if you can give some hints on this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1371893 13:12 <kunal> mihir, I am looking it to it 13:12 <kunal> on desktop i could not reproduce 13:12 <mihir> great, thanks... 13:12 <kunal> for me it happens only on device 13:12 <kunal> so was trying to download kit and stuff 13:13 <nik90> btw kunal there is one more core issue that I wanted bring up since you are here 13:13 <kunal> may be tonight i will be able to debug it on device 13:13 <kunal> sure 13:13 <mihir> kunal: sometime on desktop as well.. :| 13:13 <nik90> when switching from one view to the other (day to weekview), why is it that the events are redrawn? 13:13 <kunal> mihir, does in happen for you on desktop, I would like some logs 13:13 <nik90> it takes time to do that and from the user's experience feels a bit laggy 13:13 <nik90> I know it was done for performance use cases 13:14 <nik90> but it shouldn't come at the cost of a user noticing it 13:14 <mihir> kunal: it happens randomly, say if it is fresh start..once it is load it doesn't happen :| and that too sometime 13:14 <kunal> nik90, switching view , will destroy old view and create new one 13:14 <kunal> while creating new view, it will create model and refresh happens 13:15 <nik90> that refresh is painfully slow :/ 13:15 <kunal> nik90, can you send some video for what you are talking about 13:15 <nik90> sure 13:15 <kunal> once I know, I will try something 13:15 <nik90> I was basically using the calendar app for a few days as the primary calendar app and noticed those issues 13:15 <nik90> I also noticed that when I created an event for 15:00, it shows in my google calendar at 13:00 13:16 <nik90> but yeah I will create videos and share links 13:16 <mihir> nik90: yeah i believe it is issue from sync monitor 13:16 <kunal> nik90, thanks that will help, as we both know what we are talking about then 13:17 <kunal> for that issue, we need to confirm if we are saving timezone properly in EDS 13:17 <nik90> mihir: btw we should now stop any further redesigns and just focus on the core experience (like events loading, bug fixes etc) 13:17 <popey> +1 13:17 <nik90> I think calendar-app looks great atm 13:17 <mihir> nik90: agreed :) i have stopped 13:18 <kunal> if we are saving properly, then EDS needs to check why its not reflected 13:18 <nik90> just need it work great as well 13:18 <mihir> i am focusing on stability 13:18 <popey> The most important thing for me is that events can be created, deleted, edited, and most importantly of all, appear at the right time and on the right day ☻ 13:18 <nik90> + 13:18 <popey> Everything else is "gravy" 13:18 <mihir> popey: agreed. 13:19 <nik90> kunal: btw can you also dogfooding the calendar app on a daily basis, you will then also notice any user facing issues then (if you aren't doing so already) 13:19 <nik90> mihir: same ^^ 13:20 <kunal> actually I am not allowed to take that phone in office, do I can not use phone that frequently 13:20 <kunal> but I will try few usual thing for sometime 13:20 <nik90> just at home would be fine 13:21 <kunal> yes, at home I hardly use phone nowdays, but as I said, I will try what I can do 13:21 <nik90> ok 13:22 <kunal> but, please report bugs, if you find something 13:22 <popey> +1 13:22 <kunal> I have access to launch pad from office,I can reply 13:22 <mihir> nik90: yes , i have started using it extensively 13:22 <mihir> we have lots of bug reports now :) 13:22 <popey> i think we would benefit significantly from some additional user testing on the app. 13:22 <popey> hah 13:22 <popey> never enough bug reports! ☻ 13:23 <nik90> :) 13:24 <popey> Do we have AP tests for adding events and ensuring they are saved to the correct place? 13:24 <popey> I mean, I know we have tests for creating events 13:24 <popey> but do we introspect the event after, to make sure it landed in the calendar at the right time/day? 13:25 <kunal> popey, that reminds me, that jenkins server is in UTC timezone ? 13:25 <mihir> popey: yes it does , but there is sync issues which changes timezome i belive 13:25 <popey> kunal: good question. i think they're in the USA. 13:26 <popey> but the server may well be set to utc 13:26 <kunal> ok, 13:26 <popey> mihir: so we dont test that because we dont have a google account to sync to in the test? 13:26 <mihir> popey: yes, we just test following : 13:26 <mihir> create new event , check event saved properly 13:26 <kunal> yes, I think we are only using local cal 13:27 <mihir> popey: also there is one more issues i found while using , there is no way to set default calendar it is always Personal 13:27 <mihir> kunal: any idea why we're not able to sve events on Birthday Calendars ? 13:27 <popey> mihir: we need a bug for that. 13:28 <kunal> I am not sure, I think we need to debug from EDS side 13:28 <kunal> Errors seems like coming from EDS or evolution 13:28 <mihir> kunal: okay 13:28 * mihir files bug 13:28 <kunal> mihir, can you try creating event on Birthday from Evolution client ? 13:29 <kunal> and see what happens ? 13:29 <popey> http://imgur.com/x7h4Dvg 13:30 <popey> you cant 13:30 <popey> it says the calendar is readonly 13:30 <mihir> kunal: okay i'll try to check and will update 13:30 <popey> mihir: ^ 13:30 <mihir> kunal: current https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1347836 13:30 <mihir> the console says, Fail to create items: Cannot create calendar object: Permission denied 13:30 <mihir> ohh popey , how can we make it writable then? 13:31 <kunal> popey, do you see any birhday events there ? 13:31 <popey> no 13:32 <mihir> popey: kunal nope, it is not visible while you create it from either desktop or device (I'm talking about our calendar app) 13:32 <kunal> that's strange, looks like only Evolution can sync events to it somehow 13:32 <popey> how odd 13:32 <mihir> kunal: popey , so if that is case for stability lets remove this calendar to misguide the users. 13:32 <popey> file a bug! ☻ 13:33 <popey> well, lets file a bug, figure out where the issue is and then make a decision 13:34 <mihir> popey: there is already bug in calendar app 13:34 <kunal> mihir, we fetch calendar from EDS plugin 13:34 <kunal> and that fetch calender from Evolution 13:34 <mihir> kunal: ohh okay got it. let me file bug on EDS 13:35 <kunal> but, if would be good to know if calender is readonly 13:35 <kunal> I guess, EDS plugin should provide that information somehow, rather than removing it 13:36 <popey> yeah. 13:36 <kunal> nik90, you faced this problem right "/bin/sh: 1: INTLTOOL_MERGE-NOTFOUND: not found" 13:36 <kunal> how did you resolved it ? 13:36 <mihir> kunal: hmm okay 13:36 <nik90> kunal: yeah I did 13:36 <popey> kunal: is that inside your kit? 13:36 <popey> when building in qtc? 13:36 <kunal> popey, yes 13:36 <nik90> kunal: I install intltool in the kit and the desktop 13:36 <mihir> kunal: is it regarding device or dekstop ? 13:36 <kunal> how can I install it in kit ? 13:36 <mihir> kunal: go to tools - >options kit and click on maintian 13:37 <mihir> maintain* 13:37 <popey> yeah, tools -> options -> ubuntu -> click (tab) -> [maintain] 13:37 <popey> hehe, you beat me 13:37 <nik90> too fast 13:37 <nik90> I didnt bother :P 13:37 <popey> then you get a shell on the kit, apt-get install whatever is missing 13:37 <kunal> BTW, I dont get menu in QtCreator 13:38 <nik90> I think you need to reinstall the global menu package 13:38 <kunal> ok :) 13:38 <nik90> can't remember the name of the top of my head 13:38 <popey> it sometime shappens 13:38 <mihir> popey: nik90 hehehe 13:38 <popey> click away 13:38 <popey> then click back there 13:38 <popey> the menu appears 13:38 <kunal> actually menu come for other apps, but not for QtCreator 13:39 <kunal> I will try to install global menu 13:40 <mihir> nik90: didn't bother for what :P 13:42 <popey> Ok. So once we get those landings done, I'll speak to balloons and we'll get it pushed to the store. 13:42 <popey> And do a bit of weekend testing and bug reporting. 13:42 <mihir> popey: sure :) 13:42 <popey> What else? 13:42 <mihir> popey: nothing from my side 13:43 <popey> Ok. Once the new version is in the store, I'll ping the internet asking for more testing. 13:44 <mihir> nik90: for setting things in clock app , you use u1db ? 13:45 <nik90> Yeah u1db 13:45 <nik90> My laptop internet is down...so bare with my slow typing 13:45 <popey> np. 13:45 <nik90> We should qt settings if possible 13:46 <nik90> Since clock will switch to it post rtm 13:46 <mihir> Hmm okay :) 13:46 <kunal> do we have QML binding for qt settings ? 13:47 <nik90> Yeah we do 13:48 <kunal> that seems great 13:48 <nik90> It is called qt labs something. I can find more and email the details 13:48 <mihir> nik90: that would be great help :) 13:48 <kunal> but are we including that in ubuntu SDK ? 13:49 <nik90> Yes 13:49 <nik90> It was officially added few weeks back 13:50 <kunal> ok :) 13:50 <mihir> we can think of this post rtm though 13:51 <popey> yeah, I'd like to keep to bug fixing and performance for now. 13:51 <popey> unless it's a "One Line" change 13:52 <nik90> Yeah that's fine 13:52 <mihir> :) 13:52 <popey> Ok, anything else? 13:53 <mihir> popey: nothing from my side :) 13:53 <nik90> Nope 13:53 <kunal> noting from my side as well 13:54 <popey> Awesome. 13:54 <popey> Look forward to a new weekend release! 13:54 <popey> have a great weekend guys. 13:54 <popey> #endmeeting