13:14 #startmeeting Trojita 13:14 Meeting started Fri Aug 15 13:14:38 2014 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 13:14 13:14 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 13:14 popey, only just seen your emal :-/ I'll have to try and find a quiet spot in the house for a hangout after this meeting :-D gotta love toddlers 13:14 well, we can discuss here too ☻ 13:15 So last week jkt brought up the concern that development on trojita has slowed. 13:15 Would you say that's a fair comment? 13:15 popey yep I would agree 13:15 hi jkt 13:15 hi there 13:16 So clearly you guys working on dekko means you can iterate very quickly, and not have to 'worry' about integrating with upstream, right? 13:18 but with the side effect that things aren't flowing upstream? 13:18 sorry was relocating. 13:18 hey jkt 13:20 yes so dekko has been iterating quickly but as I said from the start it's more of a learning/testing/ideas place. And not submit patches to upstream that would be a waste of time. Maybe my lack of c++ skills has caused me to be hesitant of what I push upstream so I should address that really 13:20 Ok, so we're on the same page that these things need to go upstream, right? 13:21 There's a hesitancy on your part because you don't want to push something that breaks other things, or that is otherwise 'wrong' ? 13:21 both :-D 13:23 Ok. 13:24 So do you have some possibly-broken branches that we can ask for help with? 13:24 jkt: would you, or someone else on the project be able to mentor DanChapman through these choppy waters? 13:24 starting on September 8th, yep 13:25 before that, nope 13:25 Ok. 13:25 jkt, that's not so far away :-D That would be great/appreciated if you could 13:25 Ok, so that gives DanChapman some time to prepare patches, and clearly articulate where gaps in his knowledge are. 13:26 DanChapman: shall we work together up until then to prepare and document where you need assistance? 13:26 popey, sure :-) 13:26 Brilliant. 13:27 Sept 8th is after our release to manufacturer date so we should have more availability too 13:27 (lol - don't believe that) 13:27 popey what's the "official date" for RTM 2nd? 13:28 28th 13:29 So DanChapman boren_ will you have some time next week for us to build up a document listing what needs to go upstream and what gaps we have? 13:31 wow even closer. Yep next week sounds good all though not Monday & Tuesday mornings but any other time should be fine 13:31 Wednesday is good for me. boren_ you around on wednesday? 13:32 popey, Yes 13:32 It's a date! 13:32 I''l bring the beer 13:32 \o/ 13:33 http://drool.popey.com/ 13:33 heh :-D 13:33 jkt: are there any specific concerns, or things that need attention from your perspective? 13:34 well, I respect your decision to play in a playground, so I'm not poking my nose in that playground, so there's nothing to report from my side 13:34 if you wanted my perspective, you would have sent patches my way 13:34 Well, that's what we're aiming to fix. 13:35 popey, What's wrong with submitting patches from now? or we need to prioritize them in meeting. 13:35 boren_: no reason at all, please do! 13:36 I understood they were held back due to lack of confidence from DanChapman 13:36 but if you have some ready to go then please do. 13:36 I'll be offline between 23rd of August and September 7th, another vacation time 13:37 Nice! 13:38 So with that in mind it would be great to submit this/next week. 13:39 boren_: DanChapman do you have any ready to go already? 13:40 I have a couple I can tidy up and get them moving. I'll push to get them up for review over the weekend 13:40 Not really, I have only a few changes in dekko that I plans to implement in trojita later. 13:43 Thanks DanChapman 13:44 Are there any other things you guys need to discuss today? 13:45 popey, no not at the moment, i think once we have a list together on wednesday we should know better where we stand :-) 13:45 none from me, either 13:45 no from me 13:45 Ok guys. Thank you! 13:46 Have a great weekend. 13:46 #endmeeting