09:01 <popey> #startmeeting Weather app meeting
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09:01 <popey> So first thing, I've poked IS to bump the priority of https://portal.admin.canonical.com/72263
09:02 <popey> Gave them a deadline of end of July, but will keep poking. They're madly busy at the moment, but this shouldn't take them long.
09:02 <m-b-o> openid doesn't take  me further
09:02 <popey> oh, sorry.
09:02 <popey> well, it's the RT I filed for the geonames API key
09:03 <m-b-o> okay
09:03 <popey> On another note, dpm and I had a chat about the header colouring issue in weather.
09:04 <m-b-o> okay
09:04 <popey> Wondered if you'd considered having the header a plain colour, not changing with temperature?
09:04 <m-b-o> hmm, unsure if it always would look that good
09:05 <m-b-o> hmm
09:05 <m-b-o> we have white footer bar
09:05 <popey> yeah
09:05 <m-b-o> let me start the sdk
09:09 <m-b-o> hmm, there would be a gradient
09:10 <m-b-o> fontcolor of the tabtitle asie: http://imgur.com/nkgKD9T
09:11 <m-b-o> aside
09:11 <popey> but that's transparent, i was thinking of the header being solid
09:12 <popey> like other apps
09:12 <m-b-o> I don't know, if the gradient then is possible
09:12 <popey> you can't have one colour for the header and a different colour for the content?
09:12 <m-b-o> long tme oago, have to read th edocs
09:13 <m-b-o> "The background is usually a single color. However if headerColor or footerColor are set then a gradient of colors will be drawn"
09:13 <m-b-o> in MainView
09:13 <popey> i thought we got rid of gradients
09:13 <popey> dpm: ^
09:14 <m-b-o> hmm, only one background color, you mean?
09:15 <dpm> popey, yes, but I'm not sure how good it'd look on weather to use single colours
09:15 <dpm> m-b-o, could we have a grey header and the rest of the body being a gradient?
09:15 <m-b-o> no, see above
09:15 <m-b-o> from the docs
09:16 <dpm> m-b-o, ok. Or could we alternatively leave things as they are now, and change the font colour of the header according to the background?
09:16 <m-b-o> hmm, perhaps
09:18 <m-b-o> I don't know if  grey fontcolor is really nice
09:18 <popey> on red, no.
09:19 <popey> it doesn't look great
09:19 <m-b-o> all fonts grey, means we need grey condition icons
09:19 <m-b-o> animated grey condition icons
09:19 <popey> yeah, the inconsistency between the header and the icons is noticable
09:19 <m-b-o> othe queston, would it be possible to use custom header icons?
09:20 <popey> or... revolutionary question... we get rid of the background colours ⍨
09:21 <m-b-o> what else then?
09:22 <popey> plain grey background, like many of the other apps.
09:22 <popey> just a suggestion ☻
09:22 <m-b-o> we could try both things: replacing icons with custom ones and remvoeing gradient
09:23 <popey> if you have time to try that out in a branch it would be interesting to see.
09:23 <m-b-o> that#s the problem: I'm travelling this weekend and next week I'm at europython in berlin...
09:23 <m-b-o> but I'll see what I can doo
09:24 <m-b-o> do!
09:24 <m-b-o> do you know where this theme with the icons sits on the hardrive?
09:24 <m-b-o> still "suru"?
09:26 <popey> let me see...
09:26 <m-b-o> /usr/share/icons/suru/
09:26 <m-b-o> :)
09:26 <popey> heh
09:27 <popey> beat me to "dpkg -L suru-icon-theme"
09:27 <m-b-o> locate suru
09:27 <m-b-o> for something this ubdatedb  cron has to be good! ;)
09:29 <m-b-o> okay, I guess I'll have a version with white icons in some minutes
09:34 <m-b-o> hmm, I guess you cannot change the sandwich icons and the collapse cion, since they are in the sdk component
09:35 <popey> yes
09:37 <m-b-o> http://imgur.com/c9VvQFg
09:37 <m-b-o> gray
09:39 <popey> hm.
09:39 <popey> looks awful doens't it ☻
09:40 <popey> m-b-o: you have a bug for the header colour problem?
09:40 <m-b-o> yes, there is one, filled from nik90
09:40 <m-b-o> moment
09:41 <m-b-o> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1317816
09:41 <m-b-o> which is blocked by https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1315884
09:43 <popey> ta
09:44 <popey> I think we will just need to wait for that, given it's high and assigned, it should get done
09:44 <popey> but it's in amongst a thousand other things
09:44 <popey> will poke the sdk guys to get some kind of idea when
09:45 <m-b-o> yes
09:46 <m-b-o> another issue, which I think is importnat:
09:46 <popey> ok.
09:46 <m-b-o> I would love to replace the sheets for settings and locations with pages
09:46 <m-b-o> when we have new header
09:46 <m-b-o> like in the clock view in the clock app for example
09:46 <m-b-o> would make more sense (since sheets willbe marked as deprecated)
09:48 <m-b-o> and would also allow us to close all old sheet related bugs, which are still open
09:48 <popey> ok, makes sense.
09:49 <m-b-o> so I would offer, to build these changes on the top of the branch, where the new header already is working
09:49 <popey> ok, and land that once we have a solution to the header issue?
09:49 <m-b-o> exactly
09:49 <popey> Beta freeze is start of august, RTM is end of august.
09:49 <popey> I anticipate some of these things landing quite late!
09:50 <m-b-o> I would try last july weekend
09:50 <m-b-o> I'm optimistic
09:51 <m-b-o> start of august means 1.8. or 4.8.?
09:51 <popey> yes ㋛
09:52 <m-b-o> hehe
09:52 <popey> i dont have a date, but that week.
09:52 <m-b-o> okay
09:54 <m-b-o> I'll try
09:54 <popey> Thanks.
09:54 <popey> So will you be around for the meeting next week or will you be at a conference?
09:54 <m-b-o> at conference
09:55 <popey> Ok.
09:55 <popey> I am on vacation next week, but dpm and mhall119 will of course be around.
09:55 <popey> will be using the weather app a lot to plan my days ☻
09:56 <m-b-o> hopefully it will work! ;)
09:56 <m-b-o> always remeber: the app is not responible for the weather itself!
09:56 <m-b-o> ;)
09:56 <popey> haha!
09:56 <m-b-o> :)
09:57 <popey> Ok, shall we wrap up?
09:57 <m-b-o> yes
09:57 <m-b-o> have good time!
09:57 <popey> Great, thanks as always, and cheers for moving the meeting at the last minute
09:57 <popey> thanks, have a great weekend.
09:57 <popey> and enjoy berlin!
09:57 <m-b-o> no problem
09:57 <m-b-o> I'll
09:57 <popey> #endmeeting