13:02 <popey> #startmeeting Trojita meeting
13:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Jul  4 13:02:17 2014 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:02 <popey> hi DanChapman boren, lovely to see you both again!
13:02 <DanChapman> popey, i can't watch it. Google banned me from youtube after uploading a video on automating ubiquity with autopilot. Go figure that one :-)
13:02 <popey> haha, seriously!?
13:02 <DanChapman> yeah and i'm the one who wrote the darn tests
13:03 <popey> awww
13:03 <DanChapman> and it was my first video i think hah
13:04 <DanChapman> anyway, onwards and upwards
13:04 <popey> Indeed.
13:04 <popey> So, first thing, thanks for uploading dekko to the store!
13:04 <popey> We should get more users that way, testing it out
13:04 <popey> I see davmor2 has already been breaking it for you.
13:05 <popey> And to be clear, for the record m'lud, this dekko app is primarily there for testing features before they land in Trojita upstream, right?
13:05 <DanChapman> popey that was my thoughts exactly. An it's useful to try out ideas on people. It's been difficult not having anyone actually testing trojita
13:05 <popey> And once trojita lands, we can remove dekko and replace it with trojita proper?
13:05 <DanChapman> that was my intention
13:05 <popey> Excellent, glad we're on the same page ☻
13:06 <popey> Shall we look at the trello?
13:06 <popey> https://trello.com/b/73rFyG6n/ubuntu-email-client
13:06 <popey> I see a card in to-do about valgrind, whats that?
13:06 <popey> oh, i see comments in the card
13:07 <DanChapman> oops i forgot about that, is that still the case for the armhf ppa builds?
13:07 <popey> Well, the good news is I asked for valgrind to be seeded in the phone image, which hopefully will make it easier?
13:07 <popey> I don't know. Hence asking ☻
13:07 * DanChapman goes to look
13:09 <DanChapman> popey https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily/+packages?field.name_filter=trojita&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= seems they are building now
13:09 <popey> super, one card ditched, next!
13:10 <popey> How about the reply card?
13:11 <DanChapman> i'm still trying to get a unified desktop gui and qml smtp backend going it's turning into a pig of a job as it uses ALOT of non qml friendly stuff, and i keep breaking the desktop gui trying to make changes
13:12 <popey> ah
13:14 <davmor2> DanChapman, popey: I'll have a proper play with dekko over the weekend on n4 and n10. Is there somewhere you what me to file bugs?
13:14 <popey> launchpad.net/dekko
13:15 <davmor2> nice will do
13:15 <DanChapman> davmor2: thanks :-)
13:16 <DanChapman> popey: i'll keep hacking at it though. I'll get there at 'some' point :-D
13:17 <popey> Do we need more people on the job, or would more people not really help as its just a Hard Problem?
13:18 <popey> Is there something else you could work on which would be equally useful and a break from that?
13:18 <DanChapman> popey: more people would always be a good thing. :-)
13:20 <DanChapman> Well i was thinking of getting the porting to the new header completed and get the composer in place and then come back to doing the backend after that
13:20 <popey> Sounds reasonable.
13:20 <popey> Don't want you guys to all burn out
13:21 <DanChapman> :-D
13:21 <DanChapman> boren did you have any more luck with the webview? I've seen your review for the formatting i'll take a look at that after the meeting
13:22 <DanChapman> boren i basically gave up on the webview and was just dumping the message from the webview into a readonly textarea see http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dpniel/dekko/trunk/view/head:/src/Ubuntu/qml/Pages/OneMessagePage.qml it actually works out quite nice
13:23 <boren> make sense
13:23 <boren> But wrapping in html deal with the commenting.
13:23 <boren> i mean reply
13:24 <boren> So there is a button to click that will expand history if we do it as html
13:25 <DanChapman> yeah thats the only snag, but i didn't no which was better just display a full unpretty plaintext message or go extreme lengths to find a hacky way to get a decent size webview, like my iframe hack.
13:26 <DanChapman> obviously html messages would need a webview, but that's some way off atm so I didn't really think about that
13:28 <boren> I will try something this weekend with html. We can always do plaintext if webview is too difficult.
13:28 <popey> thanks boren
13:29 <DanChapman> boren great thanks :-)
13:30 <popey> DanChapman: have you spoken to jkt about dekko?
13:31 <DanChapman> no not yet I was going to grab him when he get's back off holiday
13:31 * DanChapman is melting
13:31 <popey> when is he back?
13:32 <DanChapman> end of next week i believe
13:33 <popey> Ok. So I think it might be worth blogging about dekko
13:33 <popey> and pimping it about a bit
13:33 <popey> with all the caveats about it
13:34 <popey> couple of screenshots maybe
13:35 <DanChapman> Ok cool sounds good, I can do that. What's the best way of getting folks to see it, through planet.u.c? I think i i have a feed setup for that
13:37 <popey> yes, planet is the _best_ way
13:37 <popey> loads of people read that
13:39 <DanChapman> boren just as a note feel free to send patches or ideas you would like to try out on dekko, it's our playground :-D
13:39 <DanChapman> popey: ok great will do that then
13:40 <popey> Are you able to land patches upstream while jkt is away?
13:40 <boren> DanChapman, OK, that is exciting.
13:41 <popey> yeah, its great having what you guys have done available in the click store!
13:41 <DanChapman> If it's not 'too' much qml then yes I believe so as Thomas and Caspar aren't too familiar with it but c++/cmake they will
13:41 <popey> ah okay
13:42 <popey> do you have any ETA on when you might have a non-desktop-breaking reply patch to land?
13:45 <DanChapman> I can't put a time on it landing at the moment, but if I can figure out the sender identities model issue i'm having, then  maybe have it up for review later next week. All going well that is
13:46 <popey> ok.
13:46 <popey> thanks.
13:46 <popey> Is there anything else I can help with?
13:47 <DanChapman> If you can help with an industrial sized cooling fan? then yes!! :-D otherwise i'm good for now
13:47 <popey> heh ☻
13:50 <popey> Ok, lets wrap up and get an ice cream.
13:51 <popey> Thanks guys, have a great weekend.
13:51 <popey> #endmeeting