== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Music app meeting, 26 Jun at 11:14 — 11:50 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2014/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2014-06-26-11.14.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDk72Lpx8U5dFVHQ3FuMDJGLUZCamJfSjYzbWh3Wnc&pli=1#gid=32 



== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * ahayzen (78)
 * popey (68)
 * meetingology (3)
 * davmor2 (1)



== Full Log ==


 11:14 <popey> #startmeeting Music app meeting

 11:14 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun 26 11:14:49 2014 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 11:14 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 11:14 <popey> Hows it going? ☻

 11:15 <ahayzen> its going well :)

 11:15 <ahayzen> we landed mediascanner-2.0 \o/

 11:15 <ahayzen> and looks like that dbus revert is going through? i saw it in silo 014 yesterday?

 11:16 <ahayzen> last night i got the sheets-to-pages transition working on jenkins https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/move-sheets-to-pages/+merge/220444

 11:16 <popey> oh nice one!

 11:16 <ahayzen> ^^ is now just waiting on the dbus revert as it seems to explode sometimes and we are hoping this will resolve the issue

 11:16 <popey> heh

 11:17 <ahayzen> it is fine on my device but die on my desktop (but that was the same as the initial mediascanner2 migration anyway)

 11:17 <popey> aha, i see it in https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-014

 11:17 <ahayzen> victor also made this mp which we can land after 014 lands to remove the 500 track limit https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/remove-initial-dbus-limitations/+merge/224272

 11:18 <popey> excellent!

 11:18 <ahayzen> i've merged listitemactions with trunk but that we'll wait for the sheet-to-pages to land first https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/listitem-actions/+merge/220290

 11:18 <ahayzen> popey, i was wondering if i could double check some behaviour with you?

 11:19 <popey> sure

 11:19 <popey> i left music app playing all day and overnight btw ☻

 11:19 <ahayzen> so in this new sheets-to-pages...when you go say...Albums -> Album -> Now Playing ... when you hit back from Now Playing we have currently made it go back to Album ... then you press back again to Albums

 11:19 <ahayzen> \o/

 11:20 * ahayzen builds click so it is easier to see

 11:20 <popey> thanks

 11:21 <ahayzen> popey, try this https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3XynHVKfrvMcll3YW9CR2pIOUE/edit?usp=sharing

 11:22 <popey> hmm, i cant right now as I'm running AP tests on my device

 11:22 <popey> What's the question?

 11:22 <ahayzen> popey, basically say you go to the albums tab... then select an album (it then shows you the tracks for that album) ... then you click play (it then goes to now playing) ...

 11:23 <ahayzen> popey, if you select back from now playing ... do you expect it to go back to Album (the tracks for the album)... or to Albums (the list of albums [the album tab])) ?

 11:24 <ahayzen> also you have Artists -> Artist -> Album -> Now Playing as well

 11:24 <popey> if I have chosen to play an album, and I go back, I wouldn't expect to go back to the album itself as I'd have no reason to

 11:24 <popey> I mean, I can see how that path is logical from a progression / breadcrumb point of view

 11:24 <popey> but if I have already queued up the entire album, I would likely want to queue up another

 11:24 <popey> not go back and look at the album, it's an extra step I am highly unlikely to ever need?

 11:25 <ahayzen> so you would expect .... Albums -> Album -> Now Playing .... Now Playing -> Albums

 11:25 <popey> yes

 11:25 <ahayzen> yeah that was my thought when playing with it

 11:25 <ahayzen> ok i'll tweak that tonight

 11:25 <popey> thanks

 11:25 <popey> i can see how some might argue the opposite

 11:25 <popey> but I think "back" should take you to the logical place, not necessarily the previous place you were at

 11:25 <ahayzen> yeah but the tab view remembers where you were so you don't have to scroll :)

 11:26 <popey> yay!

 11:26 <ahayzen> (if you did want to select the same thing)

 11:26 <popey> ok, thats good

 11:26 <ahayzen> ok so once that lands...then we land the listitem actions

 11:26 <popey> which would be an odd thing to do

 11:26 <popey> oh awesome.

 11:26 <popey> Are you planning on going away on holiday at all this summer?

 11:27 <ahayzen> nope just earning money for uni :)

 11:27 <popey> heh, okay

 11:27 <ahayzen> malta was my holiday \o/

 11:27 <popey> haha ☻

 11:27 <ahayzen> ok then the searching...

 11:28 <ahayzen> me and victor were discussing this the other day ... we think there are two options we'll have that make sense/should be able to implement...

 11:28 <ahayzen> a) User select search in header tab ... it then takes you to the songs tab and 'searches' that view

 11:29 <ahayzen> b) User selects search in header tab.... it then 'searches' whatever your current view is... so say you are on albums it would filter the results to only those albums

 11:30 <ahayzen> ...the search header API hasn't been implemented yet (at last check) so we don't know totally what is possible...and the second option assume SortFilterModel does what we expect ....

 11:31 <ahayzen> popey, but what do you think? ... a) is currently out preference ...but we both said b) could be interesting to at least investigate?

 11:31 * popey thinks

 11:32 <popey> hmmm

 11:32 <popey> context aware search is my favorite

 11:32 <ahayzen> i believe the searching of a) would also search albums (as ms2 does that for us if we go that route) ... so say you searched for an album it would then show you the tracks for that album but yeah not as nice as b)

 11:32 <ahayzen> we'll see if it is viable then when implementing it

 11:32 <popey> i think it needs testing with large collections with diverse names

 11:33 <ahayzen> yeah

 11:33 <popey> when do you think that might be ready to test?

 11:33 <ahayzen> once the search header API is implemented

 11:33 <ahayzen> + a few days for us to hack it in :)

 11:33 <popey> which reminds me, my fresh laptop has no music, so I'll copy $lots from $somewhere

 11:33 <popey> ok

 11:33 <ahayzen> ...then after all of that fun...

 11:33 <ahayzen> i have been playing about with https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/now-playing-queue-split

 11:34 <popey> man you've been busy

 11:34 <ahayzen> this splits the now playing and queue into two separate pages ....

 11:34 <popey> oh nice.

 11:34 <ahayzen> this will make it easier to do the convergence as the queue is then just a component....but also resolves a few bugs as the queue items are all the same size etc

 11:34 <ahayzen> but it does massively change the normal patterns

 11:35 <popey> yeah, we need to test that quite a bit.

 11:35 <ahayzen> as now you go ... say... Albums -> Albums -> Queue -> Now Playing.... (when you click on a track it jumps you straight to now playing)

 11:35 <popey> we also need to start wrapping up when we're expecting to land for RTM

 11:35 <popey> and then switch to bug fix mode

 11:35 <ahayzen> yep

 11:35 <popey> however we'll be doing bug fixing post-rtm too

 11:35 <ahayzen> will we have two separate branches?

 11:35 <popey> as we get feedback from the handset manufacturers

 11:36 <ahayzen> one for rtm and for devel?

 11:36 <popey> we may have to.

 11:36 <popey> or we just freeze and only do bug fix and polish work

 11:36 <ahayzen> depends if we just hold off major UI things or not?

 11:36 <popey> yeah

 11:37 <ahayzen> otherwise we'll have to start backporting :/

 11:37 <popey> yeah.

 11:37 <ahayzen> but then how would we start working on big convergence things

 11:37 <popey> Well, there's nothing stopping us doing what nik90 did with clock, and create a new series

 11:37 <ahayzen> i guess we would just have to super duper test them :)

 11:37 <popey> well music is on the unity8 desktop iso, so should get more testing ☻

 11:37 <ahayzen> :)

 11:38 <ahayzen> oh yeah and this move to pages branch may help with the bottom edge stuff

 11:38 * ahayzen has been investigating that as well

 11:39 <popey> Have you seen the bottom edge stuff in dialer and sms apps?

 11:39 <ahayzen> yeah it is awesome :)

 11:39 <popey> yeah, i love it

 11:39 <popey> was showing it to friends last night

 11:39 <popey> "ooooh"

 11:39 <ahayzen> but i wondered if the 'tag' thing would be useful for us or not?

 11:39 <ahayzen> as we have the toolbar at the bottom

 11:39 <popey> depends what you want to do with the bottom edge

 11:39 <ahayzen> like this is what we are aiming for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51QJcIDFuxM

 11:40 <popey> yeah.

 11:40 <ahayzen> but i just wondered if a tag with.... 'X songs queued'... or 'X queued' or something would be cool

 11:40 <ahayzen> but then it would overlay the toolbar slightly

 11:40 <ahayzen> also we've gotta figure out how to get the three stage to work

 11:40 <ahayzen> no one has done that yet

 11:41 <popey> dialer has

 11:41 * ahayzen checks

 11:41 <popey> pull up a bit, you get re-dial recent, bit more you get duation showing, all the way you get the full list

 11:41 <ahayzen> hmmm ....

 11:41 * ahayzen is still waiting for EE to sort out his SIM

 11:42 <ahayzen> but we have ....nothing ... toolbar shown ... full page shown

 11:42 <ahayzen> is that subtly different?

 11:42 <ahayzen> i'll have a check over their code later and see if i can figure it out

 11:43 <ahayzen> but then the question is once you have the now playing / queue split...does the bottom edge take you to the queue or now playing ?

 11:43 <ahayzen> but thts all future stuff :)

 11:43 <popey> hehe

 11:44 <davmor2> ahayzen: ring them and say you are going to move to 02 or vodaphone if they don't sort it out soon you'll be amazed at how quickly they'll over night you a sim :)

 11:44 <ahayzen> davmor2, the first SIM was dead.... then they sent me a nano sim .... and now it is in the post ...*somewhere*

 11:45 <ahayzen> davmor2, but that does sound like a plan ;)

 11:46 * ahayzen wants to transfer from his normal size SIM to a combi/micro SIM...surely can't be that hard lol

 11:46 <popey> ☻

 11:46 <popey> OK, anything else we need to discuss?

 11:46 <ahayzen> popey, right thats all from me anyway u want us to do? other than, land the things!

 11:47 <ahayzen> popey, any eta on silo-014?

 11:47 <popey> Yes, that, and figure out some bitesize things for people to look at next week during hack days ☻

 11:47 <ahayzen> ah yes

 11:47 <popey> asked thomas, will keep poking

 11:47 <popey> looks like packages built now

 11:47 <popey> https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDk72Lpx8U5dFVHQ3FuMDJGLUZCamJfSjYzbWh3Wnc&pli=1#gid=32

 11:47 <popey> you have access to see that?

 11:47 <ahayzen> UI polish i think...once this pages stuff lands i see borders/margins that could all be aligned

 11:48 <popey> testing with vast music collections too

 11:48 <ahayzen> popey, the CI train? yeah thts where i found it was silo014 :)

 11:48 <popey> heh

 11:48 <ahayzen> yep

 11:48 <popey> ok

 11:48 * ahayzen has filled his mako with flac files

 11:49 <ahayzen> popey, right lunch time i'll speak later :) o/

 11:50 <popey> o/

 11:50 <popey> thanks!

 11:50 <popey> #endmeeting



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