== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Music app meeting, 19 Jun at 11:04 — 11:42 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2014/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2014-06-19-11.04.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/ubuntu-seeds/music-app-remove-grilo/+merge/223718 
''LINK:'' http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/ 
''LINK:'' http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-06-19-124022.png <- see
''LINK:'' http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-06-19-124104.png 
''LINK:'' http://drool.popey.com/ 



== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * ahayzen (72)
 * popey (58)
 * vthompson (37)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 11:04 <popey> #startmeeting Music app meeting

 11:04 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun 19 11:04:59 2014 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 11:04 <meetingology> 

 11:04 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 11:05 <popey> hey ahayzen

 11:05 <popey> Firstly, I wanted to say thank you so much for the hard work you guys did yesterday

 11:05 <ahayzen> o/

 11:05 <popey> that was a full 10 hour stint!?

 11:05 <vthompson> \o

 11:05 <ahayzen> tht was epic :)

 11:05 * ahayzen sees store update for music \o/

 11:06 <vthompson> It was tiresome, but I'm very glad we got things working

 11:06 <ahayzen> popey, should i propose this to merge? https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/ubuntu-seeds/music-app-remove-grilo

 11:06 <popey> Looked like a really painful day.

 11:06 <popey> ahayzen: lets get 1 or 2 images under our belt first

 11:06 <popey> then remove it

 11:07 <ahayzen> popey, but isn't it needed for the qt5.3 migration? or have they moved the seed in tht?

 11:07 <popey> next one will have latest music

 11:07 <vthompson> popey, a broken grilo on qt5.3 won't make ppl mad?

 11:07 <popey> oh, good call.

 11:07 <popey> yeah, go for it

 11:07 <ahayzen> popey, shall i propose it ? yey

 11:07 <popey> ya

 11:07 <popey> ogra is out today, so it wont land till later or tomorrow anyway

 11:07 <popey> so worth doing now, so it's ready

 11:08 <ahayzen> popey, who can approve it? i forget the people...

 11:08 <ahayzen> popey, or do i wait for ogra

 11:08 <ahayzen> https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/ubuntu-seeds/music-app-remove-grilo/+merge/223718

 11:08 <popey> I'd look for who else has contributed to the touch ubuntu-seeds and see who approved

 11:08 <popey> chances are it's just ogra, which is fine

 11:09 <ahayzen> i'm sure xnox or someone would like to do it as he was bugging me before

 11:09 <popey> yeah, xnox is also able to. feel free to poke hi m:)

 11:11 <vthompson> so beyond that we have a few MPs that we'll want to get updated with the latest and possibly merged

 11:11 <ahayzen> hmm he is away i'll leave a message

 11:11 <popey> thanks ahayzen

 11:11 <ahayzen> vthompson, yeah tonight i plan on merge conflict resolving all my other branches

 11:12 <ahayzen> popey, vthompson do we want to plan out wht order to land the next branches....there are quite a few

 11:12 <popey> there's a couple in the queue

 11:12 <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/

 11:12 <popey> and some in wip http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/wip/

 11:13 <vthompson> some that have design impact we'll want more input on

 11:13 <ahayzen> basically we have... listitem-actions ... sheets-to-pages... now-playing-queue-split...search in toolbar...some fixes and some others

 11:13 <vthompson> before merging

 11:13 <popey> I had a chat with john lea in design this week

 11:14 <popey> they're completely slammed for the next 2 weeks.

 11:14 <ahayzen> vthompson, do all of ^^ need design input like the sheet to pages i think makes sense

 11:14 <popey> then things ease off a bit, as thats their deadline for RTM

 11:14 <ahayzen> vthompson, the list item actions is just a copy of their spec

 11:14 <vthompson> well if they are busy I think most of these make sense

 11:14 <popey> You could perhaps speak to Andrea Del Sarto?

 11:15 <ahayzen> vthompson, the now playing split is probably the biggest change in the workflow but this comes from Andrea's designs/convergence ideas etc

 11:15 <vthompson> for the listitems one do we know if the sdk guys are going to get the actions done by RTM?

 11:15 <vthompson> ahayzen, yea, let's put the convergence one at the bottom then

 11:15 <ahayzen> vthompson, yeah they said in UOS

 11:16 <ahayzen> vthompson, well convergence also fixes other things but yeah think it should come after...

 11:16 <ahayzen> vthompson, it isn't really convergence just helps towards convergence as the queue is its own component

 11:17 <ahayzen> vthompson, popey, i personally think it should go... sheets->pages... listitem actions... then search/split depending if the SDK support lands

 11:17 <ahayzen> vthompson, as the listitem actions will need to be updated when the sheets to pages lands

 11:17 <vthompson> I'd mostly agree with that. isn't the search one ready because it just puts the icon in the header?

 11:18 <ahayzen> vthompson, no we were waiting for the new header API to do search in the tabs then i was going to use that

 11:18 <ahayzen> vthompson, ^^ then removes the final sheet we have not converted in the sheets-to-pages

 11:18 <vthompson> ok, mark it as WIP then

 11:18 <ahayzen> vthompson, i did IIRC?

 11:18 <popey> listitem actions before search/split?

 11:19 <popey> oh, depending on sdk, yes

 11:19 <vthompson> oh right it is on hold

 11:19 <ahayzen> listitem actions yes before search button in toolbar or the now playing split

 11:19 <ahayzen> but after the sheets to pages transition

 11:19 <ahayzen> *in header

 11:19 <vthompson> we could land the search button in the header without the sdk support for the header search though

 11:20 <vthompson> we'd just use a page for search

 11:20 <ahayzen> vthompson, yeah i suppose we can land what we have for now.....but i want to have the search just filter the songs page

 11:20 <ahayzen> vthompson, rather than creating a separate page for it when it is just gonna be removed soon

 11:20 <vthompson> true

 11:21 <ahayzen> vthompson, tim said that was the next thing on his list i think

 11:21 <vthompson> So I think that order makes the most sense, let's get sheets->pages and bug fixes landed

 11:21 <ahayzen> vthompson, yep i'll resolve the merge conflicts tonight of those first :)

 11:22 <vthompson> I think we'll also be fielding bug fixes that we may have missed from the ms2 migration

 11:22 <vthompson> Or at least we should be ready to :)

 11:22 <ahayzen> vthompson, yep i was gonna say do we want to move 'land mediascanner2' trello card into done... and then create a todo/WIP one tht has the unresolved items?

 11:23 <vthompson> not sure, I've mostly stayed out of trello

 11:23 <ahayzen> vthompson, i use trello all the time now...

 11:23 <ahayzen> vthompson, i'll do ^^ just for my own tracking

 11:23 <popey> thanks ahayzen

 11:23 <ahayzen> vthompson, i used to have a massive TODO text file but i use trello now as my 'notes' page

 11:24 <popey> same here

 11:24 <popey> my text file became ridiculously unmanageable

 11:24 <vthompson> :) then tidy up trello as you see fit

 11:24 <popey> ☻

 11:26 <popey> next image just started building, should have latest music on board

 11:26 <popey> so we'll see what the ci dashboard looks like after that

 11:26 <ahayzen> \o/

 11:26 <popey> that'll be the first image with ms2 merge

 11:26 <vthompson> awesome

 11:26 <popey> and we can be confident about yanking qtgrillo

 11:26 <ahayzen> vthompson, did option 1, 2 land in the AP tests after i went to bed @ 2am lol

 11:27 <ahayzen> vthompson, as in replacing ~/music or isolation?

 11:27 <vthompson> oh we're still replacing

 11:27 <ahayzen> cool

 11:27 * ahayzen adds item to resolve tht

 11:27 <vthompson> yea, good idea

 11:28 <ahayzen> vthompson, so these are the remaining issues? https://trello.com/c/UmWFAat3/263-music-resolve-remaining-mediascanner2-issues

 11:29 <popey> looks reasonable.

 11:29 <vthompson> ahayzen, looks complete.

 11:29 <ahayzen> cool

 11:30 <vthompson> I hope our masking of the dbus issues doesn't slow down James' team from fixing it

 11:30 <ahayzen> vthompson, i was thinking last night of just branching our app and creating a version without the limits...so that people can easily test?

 11:30 <ahayzen> vthompson, then people can build clicks etc

 11:31 <vthompson> You could, but those are easy to modify as well

 11:31 <popey> can you modify on device?

 11:31 <vthompson> the sample application you gave them should still crash though

 11:31 <ahayzen> vthompson, oh yeah the sample app

 11:31 <vthompson> I meant more that the fact that it's been worked around should deter their team from fixing it

 11:32 <vthompson> *shouldn't

 11:32 <ahayzen> popey, you could it is just limit: 500 in lots of places if u search for that u'll find them

 11:32 <popey> gotcha

 11:32 <ahayzen> vthompson, ah yes

 11:32 <ahayzen> vthompson, i still should be a 'critical' issue

 11:33 <ahayzen> god i can't type today...

 11:33 <vthompson> did too much of that yesterday...

 11:34 <popey> Yeah, after yesterday I'm susprised you both turned up for this meeting!

 11:34 <ahayzen> popey, i see landing are happening, would you be able to watch/poke people about that mp to remove grilo while i'm at work so it gets into #90 ? or are we just gonna wait

 11:35 <popey> sure thing. I'll poke

 11:35 <vthompson> ha, we can't miss a mtg with the first good news in months!

 11:35 <popey> haha!

 11:35 <ahayzen> popey, i had 5hrs sleep then been doing manual testing all morning :/

 11:35 <ahayzen> yeah exactly!

 11:35 <popey> looks like 90 or 91 will be qt53

 11:35 <popey> 89 is building now, so we have some hours

 11:35 <ahayzen> \o/

 11:35 <vthompson> excellent

 11:36 <popey> ahayzen: did you say you'd spoken to tim about new listitems? know when that lands?

 11:36 <ahayzen> popey, i don't see any reason for https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/ubuntu-seeds/music-app-remove-grilo/+merge/223718 not to work/be approved should make Mirv happy

 11:36 <ahayzen> popey, err in one of the SDK sessions they said about ETAs i asked about it...

 11:37 <ahayzen> popey, think it was on the 14.10 list but not RTM IIRC...but i would have to check....

 11:37 <ahayzen> popey, oh no i remember....

 11:37 <ahayzen> popey, it is within their working to completely redo listitems

 11:37 <ahayzen> *work

 11:38 <ahayzen> popey, but i don't think things like reordering will land straight away so we'll still need to patch

 11:38 <popey> right

 11:38 <popey> i was more thinking of the swipe actions

 11:38 <ahayzen> popey, basically our decision from whichever meeting it was ...was just to land our custom component until theirs lands as we don't know when theirs will land

 11:39 <vthompson> that's how I remember it as well. the actions fix a few things in the queue as well

 11:39 <ahayzen> yeah actions fixes loads of other bugs...due to the listitem remaining the same height etc

 11:40 <ahayzen> popey, vthompson, so anything else other than ... land all the things!

 11:40 <popey> Nope, I'm good.

 11:40 <popey> been listening to lots of music this morning

 11:40 <vthompson> Nope, that about covers it!

 11:40 <ahayzen> \o/

 11:40 <ahayzen> popey, hopefully most of it has cover art now? at least the same as the scopes

 11:41 <popey> http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-06-19-124022.png <- see

 11:41 <ahayzen> :)

 11:41 <popey> yes, way more cover art than before

 11:41 <ahayzen> good

 11:41 <popey> http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-06-19-124104.png

 11:41 <vthompson> sometimes thumbnailing gets laggy though

 11:41 <popey> most of those were blank before

 11:42 <ahayzen> awesome! ... yeah we need to add an animation or something tht would be nice

 11:42 <ahayzen> anyway lunch time! speak later guys o/

 11:42 <popey> ok. Shall we wrap up ?

 11:42 <popey> \o/ lunch

 11:42 <popey> thanks again guys for the hard work!

 11:42 <ahayzen> then work :( bye...

 11:42 <vthompson> Yep, I think we're good

 11:42 <vthompson> haha, but lunch!

 11:42 <popey> mmmmm lunch

 11:42 <ahayzen> nom

 11:42 <popey> http://drool.popey.com/

 11:42 <popey> ttfn

 11:42 <popey> #endmeeting



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