12:03 #startmeeting Shorts meeting 12:03 Meeting started Fri May 30 12:03:51 2014 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 12:03 12:03 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 12:03 hi JoeyChan ! 12:03 How are you? 12:04 great :D 12:04 Last week we had a sprint, and one of the topics that came up was performance. I wanted to let you know about something that you may not have seen. 12:04 The performance overlay.. have you seen that? 12:04 I saw many posts in G+ 12:05 very funny :P 12:05 so, on your phone just add a line to /home/phablet/.profile 12:05 export PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY=1 12:05 ^ that line 12:05 then inside your app, tap the screen 4 times 12:05 especiallly u guys took photos each other 12:05 hehe, yeah, silly photos ☻ 12:06 export PERFORMANCE_OVERLAY=1 for showing the FPS on screen ? 12:06 yes 12:06 http://imgur.com/W3WQP11 12:07 so, enable that parameter in /home/phablet/.profile, then reboot the phone 12:07 then open your app 12:07 tap the screen 4 times, and you see http://imgur.com/W3WQP11 12:07 so u noticed a bug when first press an article ? 12:07 no 12:08 ok, talk about it later 12:08 ok 12:08 looking for my usb cable ... 12:08 pls wait 12:08 ok 12:08 http://imgur.com/FvFgHFU is another screenshot. 12:09 It takes a long time to render each frame (so you get red in the top graph). 12:09 I think this is because it's drawing all the grid items which are off-screen. 12:09 Just a guess. 12:12 rebooting 12:12 yep, agree that, too many grid generate at one time 12:14 done 12:14 Ok. 12:14 I c full red when generating grids 12:14 So the other thing worth looking at is the profile tool in qtcreator 12:15 Click Analyze on the left, then "Start" button in the middle 12:15 Digia already made it for V4 12:15 I think 12:15 I know that 12:15 Ok. 12:15 We're keen for every developer to take a close look at performance. 12:16 So all the apps feel smooth like butter ☻ 12:16 roger :) 12:16 Thanks! 12:16 Roman is good at this 12:16 haha 12:16 ☻ 12:16 finding the bugs or fixing them? ☻ 12:18 It is hard to consider such a performance issue as a bug .. 12:18 It takes lots of time to render may because of UbuntuShape 12:19 Well, the bug may not be in your app. 12:19 It could be in the toolkit, unity8, mir... 12:19 Roman tried use normal Rectangle to replace it 12:19 But it's still a bug I think. 12:19 then it render faster 12:19 OK, pls file it 12:21 will do after the meeting, thanks 12:21 :) 12:21 One other interesting development.. 12:22 The web browser can down download files. 12:22 wow ! 12:22 We should perhaps register the shorts app as the receiver of opml files? 12:22 awesome 12:22 that way when a user downloads their opml file, it can be "sent" via content-hub to shorts. 12:22 ok, pls add it to blueprints 12:24 JoeyChan: On that subject! 12:24 We're going to switch to using trello to manage the "to-do" items, as it's better than blueprints. 12:24 However, I need to check you can access trello from China. 12:24 oh 12:24 https://trello.com/b/Ie2rAS3W/core-apps-management can you get to that? 12:25 I just sent you an email invite. 12:25 good 12:25 I can access 12:25 The idea being we can easily track all the items across all the core apps 12:26 there is a coloured label you can apply to each 'card' 12:26 and you can filter out all other colours if you only want to see your own. 12:27 i c :) 12:27 I'll add some cards over the next day or so. 12:27 trello is quite easy to use, you can create your own boards to play with it if you like. 12:28 once a task is done, it can be dragged to the "Done" column. 12:28 Much easier than editing blueprints ☻ 12:28 So for example I just added a card for me to file a bug in shorts about performance. 12:29 You can click on cards, and leave comments. 12:29 looks like JIRA :P 12:29 yeah! 12:30 added screenshot, it's quite neat. 12:30 One other thing to mention! 12:31 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1324442 12:31 Design have asked to remove gradients from apps 12:31 I don't have a suggestion for what colour to have the background. 12:31 But a solid colour wouldn't be a bad idea, removing the light gradient at the bottom.? 12:31 I heard that from an email 12:33 includes gradient from UITK ? 12:33 I think the UITK gradient will be disabled 12:34 I expect it will just use the same colour at both ends. Which basically switches it off. 12:34 ok 12:35 how about background ? 12:36 That's what I mean, the background. 12:36 the bg is a "big" gradient of 3 color 12:36 oh 12:39 gradient: UbuntuColors.greyGradient 12:39 also will be disabled ? 12:39 Right, so that should be a flat colour I think. 12:40 Ok. Anything else to discuss? 12:40 a bug about first press an article 12:40 I am using r50 12:41 to reproduce it: 12:41 launch Shorts then press any one article 12:41 it hangs for about 20 seconds 12:42 let me try 12:43 yeah, i see that on #50 12:43 but not on #53, so it must already be fixed ☻ 12:43 ok good :D 12:43 that was easy ☻ 12:43 so i dont need to fix it 12:43 nope 12:43 anything else? 12:44 a design suggestion 12:44 about custom toolbar 12:44 now we r immigranting to new header 12:44 but some pages still need sth like bottom toolbar 12:45 do you have a mock up / wireframe of what you're thinking? 12:45 especially those pages with keyboard 12:45 I like the idea of pulling up from the bottom to expose a "share link" or "favorite" 12:46 my idea is, when user is typing, their fingers are at bottom area 12:46 so they won't like to press any buttons on the top 12:48 I thinks there no need to have new designs for those pages like "search feeds" 12:48 just keeps the bottom bar 12:48 Can you do a diagram or mockup? 12:49 Er... I mean keeps the current using designs 12:49 oh is ee 12:49 oh I see.. 12:49 e.g. search feeds page 12:50 2 buttons in toolbar 12:50 I can "fake" a toolbar after swith to new header 12:50 right, yes 12:50 that makes sense 12:50 that's simple :) 12:51 ☻ 12:52 Ok, that's all I want to let u know 12:52 :) 12:52 Ok. Great! 12:52 Thanks JoeyChan! Have a great weekend. 12:52 u 2 12:52 #endmeeting