== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Shorts meeting, 16 May at 12:00 — 12:33 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2014/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2014-05-16-12.00.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * popey (44)
 * JoeyChan (37)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 12:00 <popey> #startmeeting Shorts meeting

 12:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri May 16 12:00:21 2014 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 12:00 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 12:00 <popey> JoeyChan: how are you?

 12:01 <JoeyChan> Did u see the screenshots of Shorts that I posted to G+ ?

 12:01 <popey> ooh, no

 12:01 <popey> lemme go see

 12:01 <popey> or do you have a handy link?

 12:02 <JoeyChan> Good !  :D

 12:02 <JoeyChan> I've test the new header with Shorts

 12:02 <JoeyChan> I've posted to G+

 12:02 <JoeyChan> wait one

 12:03 <popey> Got it

 12:03 <popey> How do you go back from within the article view?

 12:03 <popey> haha, pokemon

 12:10 <JoeyChan> back ..

 12:10 <JoeyChan> sth wrong with my wifi router

 12:11 <popey> ☻

 12:11 <popey> 13:03:36 < popey> How do you go back from within the article view?

 12:11 <JoeyChan> no.. I can't

 12:11 <JoeyChan> only way is restart

 12:11 <popey> ouch

 12:11 <JoeyChan> And...  the header only support "Action" element, but we do have many custom buttons in toolbar

 12:12 <popey> did you file a bug for that, or speak to t1mp?

 12:12 <JoeyChan> Does Shorts "have to" change to new header ?

 12:12 <popey> yeah, everything will.

 12:13 <JoeyChan> I c

 12:13 <JoeyChan> Will talk to Tim after I fully test with new header

 12:13 <popey> Great.

 12:14 <JoeyChan> I didn't test some pages

 12:15 <popey> Such as?

 12:15 <JoeyChan> So.. will the bottom toolbar deprecate later ?

 12:15 <popey> The bottom toolbar disappears

 12:15 <JoeyChan> search page..

 12:16 <popey> ok.

 12:16 <JoeyChan> management page

 12:16 <popey> Can you focus on that this week? We need to migrate all apps over to the new toolbar.

 12:16 <popey> and you're finding some of these edge cases we may not have catered for ☻

 12:16 <popey> So it's great feedback for tim!

 12:17 <JoeyChan> Roger  :)

 12:18 <JoeyChan> So .. all third-party apps should switch to new header ?

 12:19 <popey> Yes. All apps.

 12:19 <popey> In theory the transition should be smooth, as toolbar will automatically move to the top.

 12:19 <popey> but you may find some issues, do report them to us when you do.

 12:20 <JoeyChan> ok

 12:20 <JoeyChan> And what will the bottom become ?

 12:20 <JoeyChan> bottom edge

 12:21 <popey> design.canonical.com/2014/03/loving-the-bottom-edge/

 12:21 <JoeyChan> Oh  I remenber that

 12:21 <popey> So for Shorts, I can think of two examples.

 12:21 <popey> 1. for "flick" up from the bottom, that could 'move to next unread article'

 12:22 <popey> (when you're viewing articles)

 12:22 <popey> and when you're on the main grid or list view, it could mean "refresh"

 12:22 <popey> I'm not sure how we could use the bottom edge for pulling up slowly, that needs more thought.

 12:23 <JoeyChan> the bottom edge is still being designed ?

 12:24 <popey> Well, each app developer can do whatever they want with the bottom edge.

 12:24 <popey> It's "yours"

 12:25 <popey> So each app could do something different.

 12:25 <popey> calendar could use the flick up to create a quick event

 12:25 <popey> weather could use flick up to show tomorrow's weather

 12:25 <popey> music could use it to switch tracks

 12:25 <popey> etc

 12:26 <JoeyChan> any new APIs to use the bottom edge ?

 12:27 <popey> Hm, not exactly. But tim is the best person to ask about that.

 12:28 <JoeyChan> OK  :)

 12:29 <popey> Next week I'll be in Malta with the guys. We will review each app, so you might get some bug reports / design suggestions.

 12:29 <JoeyChan> lol   awesome

 12:29 <popey> Ok, anything else to discuss?

 12:30 <JoeyChan> ah..  No , that's all  :)

 12:30 <JoeyChan> I am preparing a speech for tomorrow's release party  ")

 12:30 <JoeyChan> :)

 12:31 <JoeyChan> there r already 3 release parties been held in China

 12:31 <popey> Gosh!

 12:31 <JoeyChan> haha  :P

 12:32 <popey> Hope it goes well!

 12:32 <JoeyChan> thx

 12:32 <JoeyChan> c u next week

 12:32 <JoeyChan> have a nice weekend

 12:32 <popey> See you! Have a great weekend.

 12:32 <JoeyChan> :)

 12:32 <popey> Don't forget to give tim your header feedback ☻

 12:33 <JoeyChan> will

 12:33 <popey> #endmeeting



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