18:04 <popey> #startmeeting Weather app meeting
18:04 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Apr  3 18:04:35 2014 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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18:04 <popey> Weather App links:-
18:04 <popey> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bugs
18:04 <popey> Reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+activereviews
18:04 <popey> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-weather-dev
18:04 <popey> General Links:-
18:04 <popey> Milestones: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps/+milestones
18:04 <popey> Burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-14.04/
18:05 <popey> Blockers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Blockers
18:05 <popey> how are you!?
18:05 <m-b-o> fine! and yourself?
18:05 <popey> Great!
18:06 <popey> only one outstanding mr for weather. excellent!
18:08 <popey> Has dpm mailed you about the weather channel data license?
18:13 <m-b-o_> sorry, adsl is away. on phone now
18:14 <popey> ok
18:15 <m-b-o> okay
18:15 <popey> hey there
18:15 <popey> my last question was.. 19:08:01 < popey> Has dpm mailed you about the weather channel data license?
18:15 <m-b-o> no. what is this?
18:17 <popey> ok.
18:17 <popey> So it's related to the number of days forecast that we are allowed to show
18:17 <popey> in the tablet UI we show more than I think we're supposed to
18:18 <m-b-o> oh.
18:18 <popey> However, I know dpm was going to have a conversation with dpitkin about this to figure out the details.
18:18 <popey> I'll ask him to loop you in once he's had that conversation
18:18 <m-b-o> okay, thanks
18:18 <m-b-o> I have question about two bugs
18:19 <popey> Ok, go for it.
18:19 <m-b-o> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1291508
18:19 <m-b-o> is this in the app or are there knows problems platform wise?
18:20 <popey> ooh
18:20 <popey> not seen that before.
18:20 <popey> so the text at the bottom is translated and the text at the top isn't, basically?
18:21 <m-b-o> localization works better on desktop
18:21 <popey> oh, i see, so to reproduce this you need to be in location A, but language of location B basically?
18:21 <m-b-o> yes
18:22 <popey> you can reproduce this?
18:23 <m-b-o> "Updated today" is german on desktop, but "Updated: Today,..." on device. While the date at the top is in german
18:23 <m-b-o> and I have german localalization choosen on the device
18:25 <popey> hmm, not sure where that sits, platform or toolkit.
18:26 <popey> will ask dpm to take a look.
18:26 <popey> you had another bug?
18:26 <m-b-o> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1296266
18:26 <m-b-o> are tere background jobs possible?
18:27 <m-b-o> or with a check in the running app?
18:28 <popey> well..
18:28 <popey> background tasks not really. there is a download manager service you may be able to use?
18:28 <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DownloadService
18:29 * popey marks wishlist for now
18:30 <m-b-o> OK. I guess it should be okay  in the app
18:30 <popey> i know nik90 and I discussed something similar for the clock app
18:30 <popey> but are you able to trigger an update when (for example) you know the date is more than N hours/mins old?
18:30 <m-b-o> yes, should be possible (when the app is running)
18:31 <popey> right, which is fine
18:31 <m-b-o> but with the new tas laucher I see it for the first time, that the app got stopped
18:31 <m-b-o> task launcher
18:31 <popey> can you detect when you've been woken?
18:31 <popey> and check how old the data is, and refresh if needed?
18:32 <m-b-o> Don't know, haven't tried yet
18:32 <popey>18:32 <m-b-o> when the data is older as 30 minutes, it gets refreshed at starup or rewakenings
18:32 <popey> sounds good to me
18:33 <m-b-o> when the tabs get rebuild
18:33 <m-b-o> another bug: key is missing again in ppa
18:34 <m-b-o> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1296610
18:34 <popey> gah!
18:34 <popey> fginther: ^
18:36 <popey> ok, anything else?
18:37 <m-b-o> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1297357
18:37 <fginther> popey, ack, I'll check it again
18:38 <popey> m-b-o: I'll get that fixed, it's been bugging me too
18:38 <m-b-o> ok, thanks
18:38 <popey> the store front needs to be prettier for core apps, thats for sure. I'll add it to my tracking list
18:38 <m-b-o> about a blueprint:
18:38 <m-b-o> [martin-borho] Make UbuntuShapes sizes relative to work well with convergent: DONE
18:39 <m-b-o> getting the shapes relative to the screen sizes is problematic, since the font size should get scaled too, which is not that good
18:40 <popey> oh, so you end up with giant text?
18:40 <m-b-o> so I made sure, that the two big and the 4 smaller shapes are sticking together on wide tablet
18:40 <popey> I thought the shapes looked pretty good already.
18:41 <m-b-o> yes. or for the smaller text we are using "medium" or "large". which you can't make bigger...
18:41 <m-b-o> yes, I think too
18:42 <m-b-o> so I'll work on the fonts in general next week. there is another bug about font.pointSize and font.pixelSize
18:43 <popey> yeah, sometimes the text can be hard to read, I'd appreciate some love there.
18:43 <m-b-o> I'll try to make the text more grey, when it's a lighter background
18:43 <m-b-o> but the problem will be probably the color of the icons (which is white)
18:44 <popey> yeah. maybe we need to revisit the colours on the background and try out something new?
18:45 <m-b-o> wihout gradient?
18:45 <m-b-o> with pictures or something?
18:46 <popey> not sure.
18:46 <popey> I'll have a play
18:46 <m-b-o> okay :)
18:47 <popey> I love smooth meetings.
18:47 <popey> Anything else to discuss?
18:47 <m-b-o> nope, guess not
18:49 <m-b-o> liked this video with the convergent weather app :)
18:49 <popey> yeah!
18:49 <m-b-o> Ah, now one thing I remeber
18:49 <popey> was nice of jono to post that, got a lot of likes ☻
18:49 <m-b-o> this really slllooowww scrolling between days
18:49 <m-b-o> it's on the phone too.
18:50 <fginther> m-b-o, popey, I found the mistake I made for the weather-app key and fixed it. Please let me know the next time an MP is merged and I'll check the results
18:50 <m-b-o> when you scroll some days, and then swtiching the tab to the second location. ang going back
18:50 <fginther> an updated package is on it's way to the PPA
18:50 <m-b-o> fginther thanks, I will!
18:51 <popey> thanks for the prompt fix fginther
18:51 <fginther> popey, when you make dumb mistakes, sometimes they're easy to find :-)
18:51 <popey> I have no idea what you're talking about :þ
18:52 <popey> .. not in a publicly logged channel anyway. Over a beer one day..
18:52 <popey> m-b-o: is that slow scroll reported as a bug?
18:52 <m-b-o> don'know, will have a look
18:53 <popey> ok.
18:54 <popey> m-b-o: i dont see that problem on my nexus 7
18:55 <m-b-o> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxMVWPnWCNU 0:30 ff ?
18:56 <popey> o
18:56 <popey> is that not intentional? ☻
18:56 <m-b-o> nope :)
18:56 <popey> heh, ok, lets get a bug and do some testing
18:56 <m-b-o> I guess it's since 5.2. will investigate
18:56 <popey> ok. shall we wrap up there?
18:56 <m-b-o> yepp
18:56 <popey> super
18:56 <popey> thanks m-b-o !
18:56 <popey> #endmeeting