13:09 <popey> #startmeeting Shorts meeting
13:09 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Mar 28 13:09:32 2014 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:09 <popey> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rssreader-app/+bugs
13:09 <popey> Reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rssreader-app/+activereviews
13:09 <popey> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-rssreader-dev
13:09 <popey> General Links:-
13:09 <popey> Milestones: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps/+milestones
13:09 <popey> Burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-14.04/
13:09 <popey> Blockers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Blockers
13:10 <popey> So I had a good play with the new list view and it works well for me..
13:10 <JoeyChan> lo
13:10 <JoeyChan> lol
13:10 <JoeyChan> and the new grid view ?
13:12 <popey> yes!
13:12 <popey> I'm not sure about a couple of things.
13:13 <popey> 1) the icons in the article view, open site, settings etc
13:13 <popey> the position of them seems strange.
13:14 <JoeyChan> ok
13:14 <popey> thinking they should be on the toolbar really?
13:14 <popey> 2) what happens when no article is selected - e.g. on first run
13:14 <popey> maybe it should show the most recent article by default?
13:15 <JoeyChan> I don't think toolbar is a good choice for user
13:15 <popey> if you have not clicked anything yet
13:15 <JoeyChan> good advice of 2)
13:15 <popey> well I guess it depends on how often you press those buttons
13:15 <JoeyChan> :)
13:15 <popey> i dont expect to press settings very often at all
13:16 <popey> also.. the sort order is strange
13:16 <popey> I'm seeing really old articles in the top left
13:17 <JoeyChan> for myself..  I usually press the save button
13:17 <JoeyChan> old articles ?
13:17 <popey> http://imgur.com/FcjKAeQ
13:17 <popey> seeing december articles on left, and january ones on the right
13:18 <popey> and some of the dates seem wrong
13:18 <popey> http://blog.canonical.com/2013/09/10/ubuntu-the-challenger/ for example is on the far right of my view
13:18 <popey> and has the date "January 1" on it, but it's clearly older than that
13:18 <popey> the date on the article is september. very odd.
13:20 <JoeyChan> wow,  I just thought sth wrong with my phone
13:20 <popey> hah
13:20 <JoeyChan> now same thing happen to u
13:20 <popey> i see no dates on the device
13:20 <JoeyChan> yep
13:20 <JoeyChan> me 2
13:21 <JoeyChan> wired
13:21 <JoeyChan> some feeds can't be refreshed
13:21 <JoeyChan> currently we r using google api to load feeds
13:21 <JoeyChan> should have a deep check of it
13:22 <popey> how can you tell if the feed isnt refreshing?
13:22 <popey> file:///usr/share/click/preinstalled/com.ubuntu.shorts/0.2.179/RssFeedPage.qml:338: ReferenceError: pubdate is not defined
13:22 <popey> seeing that in the logs
13:23 <JoeyChan> seems google api did some changes to its rules
13:23 <JoeyChan> very serious issue
13:24 <JoeyChan> could u bug it to launchpad ?
13:24 <JoeyChan> Roman & I will follow
13:24 <popey> sure thing!
13:25 <JoeyChan> great  :)
13:26 <JoeyChan> another problem
13:26 <popey>13:26 <JoeyChan> same as dpm met before
13:26 <JoeyChan> after I install the click package
13:26 <JoeyChan> I can't launch it
13:28 <popey> how did you build the click package?
13:28 <popey> and how are you launching?
13:29 <popey> (you might need to search for shorts at the top, and launch from that, rather than click the icon)
13:29 <JoeyChan> click build <source dir>
13:29 <JoeyChan> from search scope ?
13:29 <popey> from the search link at the top of the dash
13:31 <JoeyChan> like this ?        1)  search "shorts"   2) click the icon showed
13:31 <popey> yes
13:31 <popey> also, i have started using click-buddy to build click packages now, works quite nicely
13:31 <popey> click-buddy --dir foo/
13:32 <popey> sergiusens wrote it I believe
13:33 <JoeyChan> so  "click" command deprecated ?
13:33 <popey> no, click works
13:34 <popey> i just use click-buddy too
13:34 <JoeyChan> ok   click-buddy available in my pc too
13:34 <JoeyChan> will try later
13:35 <popey> dpm is sending me his Nexus 10 so I'll be able to test better on a bigger tablet
13:35 <JoeyChan> ok  :)
13:35 <JoeyChan> btw,  what is the best way to install click ?
13:35 <JoeyChan> pkcon  or  click install
13:36 <popey> if you use click-buddy then you can add --provision, and it installs for you ☻
13:36 <popey> much easier
13:36 <JoeyChan> cool  :D
13:36 <popey> however.. to answer your question..
13:36 <popey> pkcon install-local foo.click
13:36 <popey> as phablet user
13:37 <JoeyChan> ok
13:38 <JoeyChan> sergiusens  said  r250 already using  5.2
13:38 <popey> yes, thats right
13:38 <JoeyChan> maybe that course shorts wired
13:39 <popey> Could be. Can you give it some further testing on 250?
13:39 <JoeyChan> my laptop still using  5.0.2  and shorts works fine
13:40 <JoeyChan> full test for shorts ?
13:41 <popey> Yes, on the device.
13:41 <JoeyChan> will  do
13:43 <popey> thanks.
13:43 <popey> Ok, anything else to discuss?
13:43 <JoeyChan> nope    so far
13:44 <popey> Magic. Let me know if you need any more testing done from my side..
13:44 <JoeyChan> ok   start working on the new issue
13:45 <JoeyChan> btw,  pls ask design team to review my new grid view
13:45 <popey> ok!
13:45 <popey> thanks
13:45 <popey> #endmeeting