19:03 <popey> #startmeeting Weather app meeting
19:03 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar 20 19:03:07 2014 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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19:03 <m-b-o> fine, great weather today :)
19:03 <popey> heh
19:03 <popey> Weather App links:-
19:03 <popey> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bugs
19:03 <popey> Reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+activereviews
19:03 <popey> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-weather-dev
19:03 <popey> General Links:-
19:03 <popey> Milestones: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps/+milestones
19:03 <popey> Burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-14.04/
19:03 <popey> Blockers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Blockers
19:03 <popey> First thing to mention.. We are going to have some hack days again next week
19:03 <popey> I have created a hackdays-1403 milestone for each app
19:04 <popey> Weather will be on thursday next week, all day
19:04 <m-b-o> okay, will try to be around
19:04 <popey> The usual goals, get bitezise bugs fixed, more testing, more people involved.
19:04 <popey> thanks.
19:05 <m-b-o> perhaps the merge proposals will be reviewed until then
19:05 <popey> If you could keep an eye out for bugs that would be good.
19:05 <popey> That would be good too.
19:05 <popey> I'm going to blog about it tomorrow.
19:05 <popey> Will try and drum up some people to test not only on the phone but on desktop too
19:06 <popey> we've updated the ppa to make sure the apps all install on saucy and trusty
19:06 <popey> so people have no excuse not to test :D
19:06 <m-b-o> :)
19:06 <m-b-o> reminds me abotu https://code.launchpad.net/~martin-borho/ubuntu-weather-app/refactored-icon-handling/+merge/211214
19:06 <m-b-o> haven't figured it out
19:06 <m-b-o> http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-trusty-weather-app/71/console
19:07 <m-b-o> do I have to bump the version number in the debian changelog?
19:07 <popey> usually, yes
19:07 <popey> I do.
19:08 <m-b-o> I need to do in the branch, right?
19:08 <popey> yeah, thats right
19:08 <popey> is that whats causing that?
19:08 <m-b-o> I don't know. someone on irc said so
19:08 <popey> oh, have you modified the debian/ stuff to make sure it installs the right files in the right place?
19:09 <m-b-o> I've tried to find the place to chaneg it, but found nothing
19:09 <popey> in the cmakelists...
19:10 <popey> file(GLOB SRC_FILES RELATIVE ${CMAKE_CURRENT_SOURCE_DIR} *.qml *.js *.png *.js)
19:10 <m-b-o> too. but I don't understand the Cmakelist.txt
19:10 <popey> me either
19:10 * popey invokes the magic spell to summon balloons
19:10 <m-b-o> yeah, but I'v just removed the old *.png and added ne *.png
19:10 <m-b-o> new
19:10 <popey> same directory?
19:10 <m-b-o> yes
19:10 <popey> and did bzr add?
19:11 <m-b-o> in resources/images
19:11 <m-b-o> yes
19:11 <m-b-o> you can scroll here https://code.launchpad.net/~martin-borho/ubuntu-weather-app/refactored-icon-handling/+merge/211214
19:11 <m-b-o> it's long... sorry
19:11 * balloons waves
19:11 <m-b-o> removed the icons with number and added them again with real names
19:11 <m-b-o> balloons huhu
19:12 <balloons> i can help with cmake changes
19:12 <popey> balloons: can you decypher that?
19:12 <popey> that last link
19:12 <balloons> sure i'll have a look
19:12 <m-b-o> and http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-trusty-weather-app/71/console
19:13 <balloons> that looks fun
19:16 <popey> so we had some items on the blueprint for last week / this week
19:16 <popey> dpm isn't around so I can't beat him about those now, but will tomorrow.
19:16 <popey> Any updates from your side m-b-o ?
19:16 <popey> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-weather-dev
19:17 <m-b-o> not really. waiting for the reviews :)
19:17 <popey> ok, will add that to the to-do
19:17 <m-b-o> there are two bugs fixed, we canmake a new package when merged
19:17 <popey> well, move it up the to-do
19:17 <popey> we can make a new package any time you want. right balloons ? ☻
19:18 <balloons> yep
19:19 <m-b-o> so, do you two think this is something like snow/rain weather?
19:19 <m-b-o> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~martin-borho/ubuntu-weather-app/refactored-icon-handling/download/head:/49.png-20140315142749-vwnpuysy7wwlh90q-100/49.png
19:19 <m-b-o> if you think so, the icons are quite complete. I think. Design named this icon "snow1", whatever that means
19:20 <popey> thats snow to me
19:20 <m-b-o> I've made some adjustments to the icons used by the TWC scope, so they are (nearly( all the same for all conditions like in the scope
19:21 <popey> http://www.mikeafford.com/blog/2009/08/royalty-free-weather-icons/
19:21 <m-b-o> (not adjsutmensts to the icons itself)
19:21 <popey> see down the bottom of that block of icons
19:21 <popey> hail?
19:21 <popey> snow should be star shaped ☻ round things are balls of ice usually
19:21 <m-b-o> snow/rain... ;)
19:22 <m-b-o> I can't say
19:22 <popey> solid rain
19:22 <m-b-o> hard rain...
19:22 <m-b-o> at TWC it looks like http://s.imwx.com/v.20131006.223722/img/wxicon/72/18.png
19:23 <popey> right, thats sleet
19:23 <popey> imo
19:23 <popey> in our design we have "scattered" which has round blobs
19:23 * m-b-o learned a new word, sleet
19:23 <popey> ok, so looking through all the icons, small round blobs = rain
19:24 <m-b-o> yes, but the one from above was called "snow"...
19:24 <popey> I'm confused between snow and snow_rain!
19:24 <popey> given snow has a snowflake shape
19:24 <popey> and snow_rain has blobs.
19:25 <m-b-o> yes, me thinks so too
19:25 <popey> I guess because there's not enough room for a big snowflake and blobs
19:25 <popey> so they shrunk the snowflake and added two blobs for rain
19:25 <popey> <- not a designer, clearly
19:25 <popey> but that's how I see the logic
19:25 <m-b-o> perhaps it was harder to animate...
19:25 <m-b-o> with snowflakes
19:26 <popey> ah yes
19:26 <m-b-o> I mean, the weather in the icon doesn't look tempting, so is sleet. For me it 's ok...
19:27 <popey> ok.
19:28 <m-b-o> the twc scope uses less icons
19:28 <m-b-o> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-hackers/ubuntu-rest-scopes/trunk/view/head:/src/scopes/weatherchannel.py
19:28 <popey> i haven't even seen that scope
19:28 <popey> interesting
19:28 <popey> is it worth reducing the ones we use to be consistent?
19:29 <popey> "Scope said rain, this says sleet!"
19:29 <popey> OMG! What umbrella will I take!
19:29 <popey> etc
19:29 <popey> (We have a lot of words for rain in the UK)
19:29 <m-b-o> decisions, decisions
19:30 <m-b-o> hamburg is rainy too, but here is the saying: "There's no bad weather, just inappropriate clothes"
19:30 <popey> hahah
19:31 <popey> So, I'm inclined to think that a) consistency is good, and b) we don't have to use every icon design gave us.
19:32 <m-b-o> hmm, but using more icons has more variety
19:33 <popey> Sure. I just wouldn't want us to jam all the icons in, inappropriately.
19:33 <m-b-o> I don't think anyone will ever notice there's (slightly) differecne bewteen scope and app
19:33 <popey> If they fit with a particular weather type from the API, then fine.
19:33 <popey> If you don't like the icon, then we can bounce them back to the design team.
19:33 <m-b-o> yes, I'Ve checked all codes from TWC
19:34 <m-b-o> oh, yes. It's only this one.
19:34 <m-b-o> the other ones are fitting
19:35 <popey> want to drop the designers a mail to clarify?
19:36 <m-b-o> yes, I can do that
19:36 * m-b-o seatrches the mail with the address
19:36 <popey> Matias Bordese matias.bordese@canonical.com>
19:36 <m-b-o> thanks
19:36 <popey> np
19:37 <popey> Anything else?
19:38 <m-b-o> nope
19:38 <popey> great. I'll get together with dpm and go through MRs tomorrow.
19:38 <m-b-o> :)
19:38 <m-b-o> thanks
19:38 <popey> ok, thanks again m-b-o, have a great weekend.
19:38 <m-b-o> you too, popey!
19:38 <popey> #endmeeting