20:02 <popey> #startmeeting Community Design Team meeting
20:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar  4 20:02:13 2014 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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20:02 <popey> Ok, so looking at what we agreed last week..
20:03 <popey> I moved all the content from docs to the wiki
20:03 <popey> e.g. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Music/Design
20:03 <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Calendar/Design
20:03 <delsa> yes ... cool
20:04 <popey> the other pages will obviously need updating as we have content for them
20:04 <delsa> ;)
20:04 <delsa> I'm working with music developers :)
20:04 <michelr> ok !
20:05 <popey> delsa: any updates for the wiki?
20:06 <delsa> I'm working on gdocs for the developers.. with the design on...tonight something for the wiki will be ready :)
20:07 <popey> Great!
20:07 <delsa> :)
20:07 <popey> michelr: how are things going with calendar?
20:07 <delsa> I'm really excited to work with the developers :)
20:07 <popey> They're a good bunch!
20:07 <michelr> I'm working on timeline view
20:08 <delsa> good :D
20:08 <michelr> I had some technicals pbs with Pencil, so I wasted time migrated stuff to LO Draw :-(
20:08 <popey> Have you seen Lucas' GUI toolkit?
20:08 <popey> Using inkscape, it makes it easy to create UI designs.
20:09 <delsa> +1
20:09 <popey> http://lucasromerodb.blogspot.com.ar/2014/03/gui-ubuntu-wireframing-kit-v09.html
20:09 <michelr> well, not for me : I need simple tools, Inkscape is too complex for me
20:09 <popey> heh
20:09 <popey> ok
20:09 <michelr> But i reuse some parts as I need
20:10 <michelr> I thought about some shorcuts between views (timeline --> day/week/month views)
20:10 <michelr> I mockup it asap !
20:10 <popey> Thank you.
20:10 <popey> I have some good news for you guys!
20:10 <delsa> :)
20:11 <popey> http://summit.ubuntu.com/appdevweek-1403/meeting/22154/the-new-app-header-design-and-new-ux-exploration/
20:11 <popey> I would bookmark that session for friday at 14:00
20:11 <delsa> I'm not here :( friday I'm @ work
20:11 <popey> If you aren't able to watch live as it happens, don't worry, it will be archived, and I'll send out an update to you all.
20:12 <delsa> ok..cool :)
20:12 <popey> I'll try and get some content to you early.
20:12 <delsa> :D
20:12 <delsa> can't wait
20:13 <popey> This will introduce some new concepts for the bottom edge.
20:13 <delsa> +1
20:13 <popey> It will allow you to be very creative with the bottom edge.
20:13 <michelr> yes !
20:14 <delsa> can't really wait :D
20:14 <popey> Heh.
20:14 <popey> Me too!
20:14 <michelr> maybe it will allow powerful editors ?
20:14 <michelr> I mean with enhanced toolbars ?
20:15 <popey> I think it will allow for more dynamic ways of moving around in the app
20:15 <delsa> :)
20:15 <popey> So for example you were saying about the shortcuts between views in the calendar
20:15 <popey> I think this will make it easier to smoothly move from day -> week -> month etc
20:15 <popey> so users can focus in on the data they want quickly
20:15 <popey> and "zoom out" for a wider view easily too
20:15 <delsa> wow... that help a lot with music
20:16 <popey> Yeah, with music I can imagine going from "all my music" to "all jazz" to "one artist" to "one track" in a smooth natural movement
20:16 <delsa> you will know that this is fantastic?? :D
20:16 <popey> I hope so!
20:17 <popey> But, that's for friday and beyond.
20:17 <popey> Next week we may also learn more about the new header.
20:17 <popey> which will go along with the bottom edge changes
20:17 <delsa> ok
20:18 <delsa> sorry for the upcoming week... I go to paris with my girlfriend... so I'm really busy...
20:18 <popey> You are allowed to have a life outside Ubuntu ☻
20:18 <delsa> yes :)
20:19 <popey> you never, know, Paris may give you some inspiration..
20:19 <delsa> yes, I hope :)
20:20 <popey> Any questions / issues / problems from you guys?
20:20 <delsa> not by me :)
20:20 <michelr> I talked about consistency clock/weather on g+ and Nekelesh asked us to make a proposal
20:21 <michelr> about cities management
20:21 <popey> Ah excellent.
20:21 <michelr> Nekhelesh, sorry
20:21 <popey> Yes, I would like some consistency across all apps which need location data like cities.
20:22 <michelr> they currently have similar but subtle difference when user want to add a city
20:22 <popey> Yeah.
20:22 <michelr> Nekhelesh proposed that we choose one that will be implemented in the other app
20:23 <michelr> or a third one ;-)
20:23 <michelr> And it'll reduce code
20:23 <popey> I would also speak to martin (m-b-o on irc) who maintains the code in weather.
20:24 <michelr> With my new tool (!) I'll make a comparison to choose one
20:24 <popey> There will be some sticking points... for example the different backends used by each app
20:24 <michelr> Adn I thought : why not have a checbox that allows to add city on other app ?
20:25 <michelr> ex : you add a city in weather, and with a checkbox, it is also added in clock
20:27 <popey> The tricky part there is that apps can't access eachothers data
20:27 <popey> as they are confined
20:27 <popey> however, the city selection could be a re-usable sdk component
20:27 <popey> which each app can call upon
20:27 <popey> just like a button or other widget is reusable.
20:28 <michelr> Just like the time selector in clock (alarm) and calendar
20:29 <popey> Ya
20:29 <michelr> will this widget be implemented ? (https://plus.google.com/101489925843882654647/posts/KKRX9pQCinE)
20:30 <popey> which one specifically?
20:30 <popey> Oh, snapping?
20:30 <michelr> the widget that alows to define the alarm time
20:31 <delsa> I need to go.. inkscape call me... and tomorrow I must wake up really early for my work :(
20:31 <popey> That's custom to the clock app for now.
20:31 <popey> ok, thanks delsa
20:31 <michelr> bye delsa
20:31 <delsa> so, goodbye popey thanks to you, goodbye michelr
20:31 <popey> Ok. I didn't have anything else to bring up and my dinner is calling from the oven..
20:31 <popey> Anything else?
20:32 <michelr> not really, I have to mockup my ideas and questions will follow
20:33 <popey> Ok, well. Let me know if you have any questions or problems!
20:33 <popey> Thanks michelr !
20:33 <popey> #endmeeting