19:01 <dpm> #startmeeting
19:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Feb 20 19:01:50 2014 UTC.  The chair is dpm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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19:02 <dpm> So the main thing this week is convergence!
19:02 <m-b-o> indeed! :)
19:02 <dpm> I've got a couple of updates since the conversation this morning
19:03 <dpm> the first one is that we changed the number of pixels per grid unit on the N7
19:03 <dpm> so now, instead of 21, the Nexus 7 has 18 px/gu
19:03 <dpm> that makes things look a lot better
19:04 <dpm> have a look at weather running on a Nexus 7 with this setting now:
19:04 <m-b-o> does it fix the issues?
19:04 <dpm> http://imgur.com/QRohlUz,NwazDKg#0
19:04 <dpm> it kind of does
19:04 <dpm> but the footer is still broken
19:04 <m-b-o> ah
19:04 <m-b-o> any idea why?
19:04 <dpm> I'm really happy about the second image on that link, where we don't have an overlap of the 4 boxes anymore
19:04 <dpm> not yet
19:05 <dpm> I've only had time to do a small code change to adapt to the new GU (changing the wideModeThreshold)
19:05 <dpm> so I've not spent that much time on it
19:06 <m-b-o> dpm: when has it to be ready?
19:06 <dpm> but some good news is that I could kind of reproduce the issue on the desktop
19:06 <dpm> m-b-o, so here's the plan:
19:06 <dpm> - We are uploading the twc-version-with-only-phone-layout to the store. This way we are on the safe side
19:07 <dpm> - We will do a best effort try to see if we can fix the footer issue between today and tomorrow
19:08 <dpm> - If we can fix it, we'll upload it and we'll _try_ to get it in the final images. As it will be a bit late, it's not sure if it'll be included
19:08 <m-b-o> okay
19:09 <dpm> so that's the plan. I'll try to debug a bit between tonight and tomorrow
19:09 <dpm> but I don't have a device, so I might be a bit slow
19:09 <m-b-o> how have you reproduced it on desktop?
19:10 <dpm> changing the height and the width of the window, there is a point where the footer gets stuck at a size smaller than the main window
19:11 <m-b-o> any ideo at which gu?
19:13 <dpm> I'm trying to reproduce now
19:15 <dpm> 592px width on the desktop
19:16 <dpm> which at 8px per GU on my laptop, that's 74 GU
19:17 <m-b-o> hwo can I calculate px per GU?
19:17 <dpm> m-b-o, I just did a print (units.gu(1))
19:18 <dpm> m-b-o, http://i.imgur.com/8lrlSDZ.png
19:18 <dpm> you can see the pixels output on the settings button there, and the footer being at a strange position and stuck on a fixed length
19:19 <m-b-o> ah, saw that once today
19:19 <dpm> if I make the window wider, the footer stays that way
19:19 <popey> dpm: if you need testing done tonight on your hacking, ping me
19:19 <dpm> awesome, thanks popey
19:21 <dpm> m-b-o, but I really don't understand why it's happening, because the width should be the same as the main view. I'm wondering if anchors come into play somehow...
19:22 <m-b-o> can't say.
19:24 <m-b-o> does thi shappen in the phone onyl version too?
19:25 <m-b-o> I see a footer not at 100% on desktop!
19:25 <m-b-o> damn, I know hwo to reprduce, perhaps
19:25 <dpm> I can try on an older revision
19:26 <m-b-o> I have it on desktop
19:28 <dpm> ok, it's difficult to reproduce on an older, phone-only revision
19:28 <m-b-o> http://imgur.com/N1ui046
19:28 <m-b-o> look
19:28 <dpm> aha!
19:28 <popey> ooh
19:29 <m-b-o> stucks at ~460
19:29 <m-b-o> 460/8 are
19:29 <m-b-o> 57.5
19:29 <m-b-o> lets try
19:30 <m-b-o> hmm
19:34 <m-b-o> i can reproduce
19:35 <m-b-o> it's not dependent on a fixed size
19:38 <m-b-o> you start it with width 91 gu
19:38 <m-b-o> then you are going to reduce the width in small steps, until it switches to phone view
19:39 <m-b-o> then sometimes the twc logo get cut, like this http://imgur.com/fS5AGGG
19:39 <dpm> yep
19:39 <dpm> so it seems to do with the resize, which doesn't happen on a tablet, but the effect is the same, which makes me think it's the same issue
19:39 <m-b-o> when this happens, there's a chance the width gets stucked
19:40 <dpm> yeah
19:40 <m-b-o> pehrpas becasue the size gets decreased, perhaps we shoudl give a smaller width at startup
19:41 <dpm> but we already have quite a small size on startup
19:42 <m-b-o> i can now fully reproduce
19:42 <m-b-o> start the app: make the app narrow in a fast move
19:42 <m-b-o> than make it wider
19:42 <m-b-o> again
19:43 <m-b-o> make it narrow to phone size fast, look at it. then make it wide
19:44 <m-b-o> yes, fast resizing is it
19:46 <dpm> yes
19:47 <dpm> so could it be that it happens when the app is maximized to full screen when running on the N7?
19:47 <m-b-o> what is the intital width on n7?
19:47 <dpm> then a workaround would be to give it an initial size of N7 widht
19:47 <dpm> we had the same thought :)
19:47 <dpm> let me calculate...
19:49 <dpm> Nexus 7 is 1920/18 = 106.67 GU width and 1200/18 = 66.67 GU height
19:49 <popey> what about n10?
19:50 <dpm> it seems not to happen there, I'm not sure about why. But in any case, the resizing is also happening on the N10
19:50 <dpm> since we have quite a small initial size, which gets maximized to the screen size on all devices
19:51 <m-b-o> it's not exclusive to the footer it seems
19:56 <dpm> popey, could you try to run lp:~dpm/ubuntu-weather-app/n7-tweaks on the N7? If it makes things easier, I've created a .click too: http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/click/com.ubuntu.weather_1.0.208_all.click
19:57 <dpm> it's a bit of a shot in the dark, but worth a try
19:57 <popey> yes
19:57 <popey> does that click have the key?
19:57 <dpm> yes
19:57 <popey> k
19:58 <m-b-o> I know how to detect this in the code:
19:58 <m-b-o> in Location Tab:
19:58 <m-b-o> onWidthChanged: {
19:58 <m-b-o> print("width changed")
19:58 <m-b-o> print(mainView.width)
19:58 <m-b-o> print(tabFooter.width)
19:58 <m-b-o> }
19:59 <dpm> m-b-o, ah, good idea
19:59 <popey> nope
20:00 <dpm> argh :(
20:02 <popey> http://i.imgur.com/I9idfNc.jpg
20:03 <dpm> popey, can you try to install http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/click/com.ubuntu.weather_1.0.209_all.click , run it from the command line and paste the output?
20:03 <popey> ok
20:08 <m-b-o> it seems not to happen without Layouts
20:13 <popey> dpm: sorry, had a unity crash ⍨
20:14 <dpm> np
20:14 <popey> same
20:14 <popey> you want logs?
20:14 <dpm> yeah, that should not make any difference, I just wanted to see the output
20:15 <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6967343/
20:18 <m-b-o> dpm: you can add   print("start: "+mainView.width) to Component.onCompleted in mainView to getthe size at startup
20:20 * popey reboots to get rid of dead chromiums.. brb
20:24 <dpm> popey, when you're back, here's a new .click to run on the command line to get more output: http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/click/com.ubuntu.weather_1.0.210_all.click
20:24 <popey> k
20:24 <dpm> m-b-o, done, pushed it on https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-weather-app/n7-tweaks and on that .click ^
20:27 <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6967398/
20:27 <popey> although the app just gives white screen now
20:27 <popey> what did you do!?
20:27 <popey> oh, okay when i restart
20:27 <popey> odd
20:28 <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6967405/
20:30 <dpm> m-b-o, it seems there is some confusion between width and height? ^
20:31 <dpm> I wonder if the app thinks the height is the width because of landscape mode. But then, it should not work on the N10, either
20:32 <m-b-o> why is the size changed so  often in the logs?
20:32 <dpm> popey, is that the log after having launched the app twice?
20:32 <popey> yes
20:36 <dpm> m-b-o, the log, after filtering out the non-relevant output would be: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6967433/
20:38 <m-b-o> to reproduce: when one in the wide layout and then going to narrow wide, the move after that it's get stucked
20:43 <dpm> I'm still puzzled by the swapping between width and height on the device, though
20:44 <popey> can you implement a wait until the size settles?
20:44 <m-b-o> no
20:44 <popey> like leave the loading thing up until the size stops flapping about?
20:45 <m-b-o> it's related to Layouts somehow
20:45 <m-b-o> parts are getting not rerendered, or something
20:53 <m-b-o> I would say it's perhaps a bug in the SDK
21:09 <m-b-o> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6967584/
21:09 <m-b-o> fixes it on my desktop
21:10 <dpm> ok, thanks, sending it over for testing to cwayne, it seems popey has got some computer breakage
21:10 <dpm> http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/click/com.ubuntu.weather_1.0.212_all.click
21:11 <dpm> oh, cwayne is away, we're N7-less
21:13 <popey> hmm
21:13 <popey> i ninja'ed that edit on my device
21:13 <popey> and it didnt work
21:13 <popey> maybe I messed up
21:13 <popey> lemme try your click
21:13 <popey> I fixed my computer by replacing lightdm with gdm!
21:14 <popey> dpm: installing now..
21:14 * dpm is excited
21:15 <popey> no, that kinda broke it more oddly
21:15 <popey> the size thing, i know what it is I think
21:15 <popey> its when the app starts, it slides in from the right
21:16 <dpm> ah
21:17 <popey> now the whole app is offset to the right
21:17 <popey> very odd
21:17 <popey> maybe not
21:17 <popey> i think i just started the app as unity was starting
21:17 <m-b-o> on desktop it's fixed
21:17 <popey> now I let it calm down, its okay
21:17 <popey> but the bar is still not wide enough
21:17 <popey> i wonder if this is running an old build or something
21:17 <m-b-o> the log?
21:17 <popey> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ click list | grep weather
21:17 <popey> com.ubuntu.weather      1.0.212
21:19 <dpm> that's the right onw
21:19 <dpm> *one
21:19 <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6967638/
21:19 <dpm> argh, I removed the print lines on resize, so the log won't be much use, sorry :(
21:19 <dpm> ok, creating the last .click for tonight
21:19 <popey> one mo
21:19 <dpm> k
21:19 <popey> gimmie the print lines?
21:21 <dpm> popey, basically you can readd the lines marked as minus in here, but you should add them after line 14: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6967589/
21:21 <popey> k