19:02 <popey> #startmeeting Weather app meeting
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19:02 <popey> Weather App links:-
19:02 <popey> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bugs
19:02 <popey> Reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+activereviews
19:02 <popey> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-weather-dev
19:02 <popey> General Links:-
19:02 <popey> Milestones: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps/+milestones
19:02 <popey> Burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-14.04/
19:02 <popey> Blockers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Blockers
19:02 <popey> hi neokore
19:02 <neokore> Hi guys
19:02 <m-b-o> Hi
19:04 <dpm> hey all
19:04 <m-b-o> I've played a little bit with haptic effects and added one to hourly scrolling. Made a merge proposal some minutes ago
19:04 <m-b-o> hi dpm
19:05 <neokore> I'm downloading your branch to test
19:06 <popey> Seems we have no updates regarding the TWC API documentation?
19:07 <dpm> Same status as what I mentioned on the e-mail, I'll keep everyone on the loop when TWC come back to us
19:07 <popey> ok, thanks
19:08 <m-b-o> are keyboard shortcuts possible or are we waiting on sdk changes?
19:09 <popey> they should be possible, other apps have added them
19:09 <m-b-o> ok. ok. which one for example?
19:09 <m-b-o> oh, ok
19:10 <popey> clock is a good example
19:10 <dpm> m-b-o, neokore, looking at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-weather-dev is there any work item that we need to update? I'll mark the TWC ones as BLOCKED
19:10 <popey> CTRL+TAB to switch tabs
19:10 <popey> ctrl+n for new..
19:11 <m-b-o> dpm: I wll implement keyborad shortcuts on the weekend
19:11 <popey> great.
19:11 <dpm> sounds good
19:12 <dpm> have you guys got any experience with layouts to make apps convergent?
19:12 <m-b-o> not yet :)
19:12 <neokore> the animations need some improvements, they are aren't too fluid on my N4
19:13 <neokore> I'll work on them before setting the work item done
19:13 <neokore> dpm: no experience, no
19:13 <dpm> m-b-o, neokore, if we get some community designs for a convergent layout, would you be interested in looking at implementing them? I think having weather working on tablet mode would be really cool
19:13 <m-b-o> dpm: sorry, changed blueprints reverted. will fix it
19:13 <dpm> this might be more fun than waiting on TWC feedback
19:14 <neokore> dpm: truly
19:14 <dpm> m-b-o, no worries
19:14 <m-b-o> dpm: yes
19:14 <dpm> awesome
19:14 <popey> \o/
19:15 <dpm> m-b-o, neokore, I think I'll put together a document and will ask for some community designs for different views. If I share it with you guys and as soon as we start getting designs, could you help with some feedback? You are the ones who have got the most knowledge on the app, and your views would be really useful for designers
19:16 <m-b-o> yes!
19:16 <neokore> dpm: of course!
19:16 <dpm> ok, great, let me put a work item for me to do this
19:18 <dpm> ok, blueprint updated
19:19 <dpm> I think popey e-mailed you about it, but we've got the Mobile World Congress (MWC) coming up
19:19 <neokore> Guys, could you tell me how do you feel the animations on your devices?
19:20 <m-b-o> nekore: I feel like you, could be more fluid
19:20 <dpm> neokore, yeah, same here, but they are good!
19:20 <neokore> are all of you using a nexus 4?
19:20 <m-b-o> yes
19:20 <popey> yes
19:21 <neokore> ok, I'll improve them
19:21 <dpm> thanks neokore
19:21 <neokore> np
19:22 <neokore> dpm, sorry, what about WMC?
19:22 <m-b-o> try it on gnexus now
19:23 <dpm> MWC will be a great oportunity to showcase the Weather app (and all other core apps!) Having the TWC backend will be a great feature to show the interest for big names on a free OS, with open source apps
19:23 <m-b-o> dpm: sounds good!
19:23 <dpm> indeed :)
19:24 <neokore> dpm: really good
19:24 <dpm> I know there is only 3 weeks to go, but another feature that would be great would be to have some convergent views to show on the tablet. That's why I'd like to go this extra mile to get community designs and see if we can get at least a few views that are tablet-specific
19:24 <m-b-o> neokore: it's ok on galaxy nexus, not as fluid like on n4. but ok
19:24 <dpm> what do you think?
19:25 <neokore> dpm I think we could make it
19:25 <m-b-o> we can try :)
19:25 <neokore> I MUST spend more time on Weather App, so, I'm your man
19:26 <popey> awesome
19:26 <dpm> \o/
19:26 <popey> i am getting a tablet next week so will do some more testing
19:26 <m-b-o> neokore :) !
19:26 <neokore> hehe
19:26 <m-b-o> dpm, popey: can we perhaps change the phone design, to make it easier perhaps for converged views?
19:26 <dpm> we've got some mockups already for Calendar, and I'd like to put them in a separate document as the clock guys did https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Convergence
19:27 <neokore> will tablet version be the same for maximized window on desktop?
19:27 <dpm> the clock app community designers did an awesome job at it: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVDuiTD7F5K3vL_IYets_8SsqTS3PebCNArqvEuvaME/edit
19:27 <dpm> m-b-o, yeah, we can, although my suggestion would be not to do too radical changes to minimize the amount of work
19:29 <dpm> neokore, there needs to be some work done in the platform for true convergence, so that an app can query whether it's running on phone, tablet or desktop. But right now, you can think of the desktop maximized version as "tablet mode" for testing
19:29 <m-b-o> dpm yes, of course. But sometimes the squares are a little bit limiting sometimes, to show data and so on
19:29 <neokore> dpm: ok
19:29 <dpm> m-b-o, ah, I see what you mean
19:30 <m-b-o> putting the houzrly data in something like a table on tablet would be cool
19:31 <m-b-o> and perhaps something like a naviagtion bar for days too
19:34 <dpm> m-b-o, yeah, that's great feedback, indeed
19:35 <dpm> m-b-o, I'll put together the doc, and feel free to put any feedback or mockups yourselves if you've got any ideas
19:35 <m-b-o> dpm ok!
19:35 <neokore> dpm: great
19:36 <dpm> awesome
19:36 <dpm> so shall we wrap it up here? Anything else you guys wanted to discuss?
19:36 <m-b-o> no, nothin on my side
19:36 <neokore> I think no
19:37 <popey> I just wanted to mention that I'm super excited about upcoming announcements, and look forward to seeing people using your app at MWC
19:37 <dpm> \o/
19:37 <popey> Thanks so much for your hard work guys, it's really appreciated!
19:37 <m-b-o> yeah! :)
19:37 <m-b-o> thank you!
19:37 <neokore> thank you!
19:37 <dpm> I'll be at MWC, and I'll be showing off some community power with core apps :)
19:38 <dpm> Talk to you soon, and hopefully the next time to bring some good news to unblock the TWC backend :)
19:38 <m-b-o> dpm that would be great! :)
19:38 <dpm> #endmeeting
19:38 <dpm> :-)
19:39 <popey> #endmeeting