12:59 <popey> #startmeeting RSS Reader App meeting
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12:59 <JoeyChan> good to c u again
13:00 <popey> Boilerplate..
13:00 <popey> RSS Reader App links:-
13:00 <popey> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rssreader-app/+bugs
13:00 <popey> Reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rssreader-app/+activereviews
13:00 <popey> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-rssreader-dev
13:00 <popey> General Links:-
13:00 <popey> Milestones: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps/+milestones
13:00 <popey> Burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-14.04/
13:00 <popey> Blockers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Blockers
13:00 <popey> you too.. how was the holiday for you?
13:00 <JoeyChan> well  xmas is not an official holiday  :P
13:01 <JoeyChan> in China
13:01 <popey> Aw, shame.
13:01 <JoeyChan> ok,  when shall we begin development ?
13:02 <popey> Now! :D
13:02 <JoeyChan> I saw the blueprint
13:02 <JoeyChan> haha
13:02 <popey> So the priority for this cycle is convergence..
13:02 <popey> making sure the app works well on phone, tablet, desktop
13:03 <popey> Making sure it's possible to operate the app on the desktop with a keyboard and mouse.. just like you can on the phone/tablet with touch.
13:03 <popey> Mouse scrolling for example.
13:03 <JoeyChan> i c
13:03 <popey> Redrawing the application when the window resizes
13:03 <JoeyChan> so.. does the design start yet ?
13:04 <popey> We haven't received any designs, but we'll put the call out for them
13:04 <JoeyChan> ok
13:04 <popey> As I mentioned at the end of last year, the canonical design team may not have time to help us
13:04 <popey> but we can try and get community designs and pass them to the design team for review if they can.
13:04 <JoeyChan> oh..
13:05 <JoeyChan> I remember there is a design team in G+
13:06 <JoeyChan> will them help ?
13:06 <popey> We can ask
13:06 <popey> Most of Canonical is still on holiday
13:06 <popey> On monday I'll speak to the guys and we'll put a call out
13:06 <JoeyChan> ok
13:07 <popey> I'll convert the goals into some work items in the blueprint
13:07 <popey> and file a couple of bugs for the desktop navigation things
13:08 <JoeyChan> yep,  agree
13:09 <popey> The only other (lower priority) feature that might be nice, would be to allow subscriptions from the browser
13:09 <popey> So if a user clicks on an RSS feed in the web browser, it could trigger a subscription in Shorts..
13:09 <popey> but I think that would need some further discussion
13:09 <popey> and isn't a high priority given we have a search function which works well in shorts
13:10 <JoeyChan> i c
13:10 <JoeyChan> designs first  :)
13:10 <popey> Yes! :D
13:11 <popey> Other than that I didn't have anything else to discuss, do you?
13:11 <JoeyChan> i do have a question
13:12 <JoeyChan> about the SDK
13:12 <popey> ok.
13:12 <JoeyChan> the default template is pure qml
13:12 <JoeyChan> but if I want to use c++
13:13 <JoeyChan> that will be hard to develop
13:13 <popey> We have other apps which have qml and C++
13:13 <popey> Music App, File Manager, Terminal.
13:14 <JoeyChan> yep  I  know
13:15 <JoeyChan> some process needs manual operate
13:15 <JoeyChan> like deploy on phone
13:15 <popey> yes.
13:15 <JoeyChan> run on phone  etc..
13:16 <JoeyChan> and  can't debug  :(
13:16 <popey> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~reminders-app-dev/reminders-app/trunk/view/head:/run_on_ubuntu_touch.sh
13:16 <popey> might be useful
13:16 <popey> for running on device
13:17 <JoeyChan> wow,  didn't know that
13:17 <popey> needs a little tweaking to work with other apps, but that could be useful
13:17 <popey> I have used it to run reminders-app on the phone, from my pc
13:17 <popey> debug output appears in the shell on the pc, or also worth looking in /home/phablet/.cache/upstart
13:18 <JoeyChan> so.. just run this script under the source code folder ?
13:19 <popey> yes
13:19 <JoeyChan> cool  :D
13:20 <popey> yeah, it's very handy
13:20 <popey> I think mzanetti who wrote it, uses it in all his apps
13:21 <JoeyChan> will the SDK integrate this script ?
13:22 <popey> I think the SDk are working on a different solution
13:22 <popey> one which does cross-compiling on your pc
13:22 <popey> then builds a click package for deployment to the device
13:22 <JoeyChan> I am quite miss the time I developed Nokia Meego app  :P
13:23 <JoeyChan> it's SDK can run apps via WIFI
13:23 <popey> nice.
13:24 <popey> technically you can run apps via wifi on ubuntu touch
13:24 <popey> if you "adb shell sshd start"
13:24 <popey> er, "adb shell start sshd" i think
13:24 <JoeyChan> :P
13:24 <popey> alan@deep-thought:~$ adb shell start ssh
13:24 <popey> ssh start/running, process 8360
13:24 <popey> close ☻
13:24 <popey> and then modify that script to do it over wifi rather than adb push
13:24 <JoeyChan> I mean run from SDK directly  :)
13:24 <popey> but yes, the SDK *should* do this
13:24 <popey> yeah, I agree
13:25 <popey> Ok. Anything else?
13:25 <JoeyChan> nope,  I think that's all so far
13:25 <JoeyChan> :D
13:26 <JoeyChan> thanks for the script
13:26 <popey> No probs
13:26 <popey> ok, have a great weekend
13:26 <JoeyChan> :)
13:26 <JoeyChan> u 2
13:26 <popey> We'll get the design call out next week..
13:26 <popey> see you
13:26 <popey> #endmeeting