== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Calculator app meeting, 19 Dec at 16:03 — 16:31 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2013/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2013-12-19-16.03.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' http://www.amazon.com/HP-HP50G-50g-Graphing-Calculator/dp/B000GTPRPS 
''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1262747 



== Vote results ==




== Action items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * popey (87)
 * Mihir (43)
 * WebbyIT (18)
 * mhall119 (14)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 16:03 <popey> #startmeeting Calculator app meeting

 16:03 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Dec 19 16:03:31 2013 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 16:03 <popey> Calculator App links:-

 16:03 <popey> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bugs

 16:03 <popey> Reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+activereviews

 16:03 <popey> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-calculator-dev

 16:03 <popey> General Links:-

 16:03 <popey> Milestones: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps/+milestones

 16:04 <popey> Burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-14.04/

 16:04 <popey> Blockers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Blockers

 16:04 <popey> </spam>

 16:04 <popey> Mihir: sorry, you'll see some duplication here with the calendar meeting ☻

 16:04 <popey> As an agenda I came up with this..

 16:04 <popey> * Deciding on features for 14.04

 16:04 <popey> * Finalise work items

 16:04 <popey> * Setting milestones for work items

 16:04 <popey> * Bugs, merges, work items!

 16:04 <Mihir> popey:  no issues :)

 16:04 <popey> * Blockers

 16:04 <popey> Good man

 16:04 <popey> So the first thing to note is we don't have any concrete features defined for 14.04 for Calculator

 16:05 <popey> Other than polish, bug fixing, test fixing etc.

 16:05 <popey> The only real features we'd come up with are:-

 16:05 <Mihir> popey: okay :)

 16:05 <popey> * Enable sidestage usage on tablet UI

 16:05 <Mihir> popey: we have fixed I guess all the old bugs

 16:06 <popey> * Enable full screen view of calculator - needs design(s)

 16:06 <popey> * [optional] Scientific mode

 16:06 <popey> * [maddness] Graphing calculator

 16:07 <popey> How about you guys, can you think of any significant features to add this cycle?

 16:07 <Mihir> Graphic you meant to say, user draws numbers & sign on calculator ?

 16:07 <Mihir> The main would be scientific view, what say WebbyIT  ?

 16:07 <popey> http://www.amazon.com/HP-HP50G-50g-Graphing-Calculator/dp/B000GTPRPS

 16:07 <popey> like that

 16:08 <popey> but I deliberately tagged that "madness" ☻

 16:08 <Mihir> thats great :)

 16:08 <WebbyIT> popey, yeah sure, tomorrow morning you have it

 16:08 <WebbyIT> :P

 16:09 <WebbyIT> well, we can decide to focus on scientific view, but I need some help, I have no ability to do something so complicate... what about you Mihir?

 16:09 <Mihir> WebbyIT: you talking about Maths ?

 16:09 <Mihir> lol

 16:10 <WebbyIT> Mihir, about scientific function, I tried to look to engine.js, but it's very complicate

 16:11 <popey> I can see a use case for the calc being simple on phone and scientific on tablet (or when phone turned sideways)

 16:11 <Mihir> WebbyIT: yeah that's true, we need to look at better option for scientific calculator

 16:11 <Mihir> popey: we should give both options, users should be able to select their option

 16:11 <Mihir> if they choose scientific make it in rotate view

 16:12 <popey> well, I'm just thinking we need more room for more buttons

 16:12 <Mihir> Hmm true..

 16:12 <popey> Mihir: well, you have a simple option of just turning your phone on its side

 16:13 <popey> turn it the right way up and the buttons change back

 16:13 <popey> that's just my idea as a non-designer ㋛

 16:13 <WebbyIT> yeah, first of all we need some design, my better idea of design is a CLI :-)

 16:13 <Mihir> popey: also, we need to freeze scientific functions that needs to be implemented based on the prioritty

 16:14 <popey> ok, so I am seeing 3 items here.

 16:14 <popey> 1. decide on scientific functions to be implemented

 16:14 <popey> 2. Design for scientific calc

 16:14 <popey> 3. identify libraries we can use, or implement own?

 16:15 <Mihir> okay sounds great

 16:15 <popey> we can break down 1. into separate functions as work items, take them one at a time

 16:15 <popey> although I expect some will be done together like sin/cos/tan

 16:15 <popey> and deg/rad mode

 16:15 <WebbyIT> and ^ and sqr

 16:15 <popey> ya

 16:16 <Mihir> popey:  we don't have design resource for calculator also ?

 16:16 <popey> correct

 16:16 <popey> \o/ community

 16:16 <Mihir> ohhhh...

 16:16 <Mihir> okay

 16:16 <popey> however, we may be able to bring some designs to the design clinic

 16:16 <mhall119> has anybody tried the calculator on the desktop?  Does it work well with keyboard and mouse?

 16:16 <popey> and the design team can review them

 16:17 * mhall119 just tried

 16:17 <mhall119> can I request keyboard input as a priority feature?

 16:17 <popey> good call mhall119

 16:17 <popey> yeah, I'll add to my list

 16:17 <mhall119> before scientific stuff gets added

 16:17 <WebbyIT> yes, it's a good idea marlinc

 16:17 <WebbyIT> ops, mhall119

 16:18 <popey> thats actually part of convergence which is higher priority than scientific anyway

 16:18 <Mihir> mhall119: that's must

 16:19 <Mihir> popey: for keyboard input do we have anything available from SDK side ??

 16:19 <popey> WebbyIT: Mihir who wants to take a work item to look at desktop usage?

 16:19 <popey> mhall119: did the keyboard "just work"?

 16:19 <popey> or did you have to peck out with the mouse?

 16:20 <WebbyIT> Mihir, as you wish, do you want to do this?

 16:20 <mhall119> Mihir: popey: I have no idea

 16:20 <WebbyIT> popey, you have to use mouse

 16:20 <popey> yeah, just tested here

 16:20 <popey> needs mouse

 16:20 <Mihir> WebbyIT: if you wish fine..

 16:21 <popey> can you add a work item to the blueprint please

 16:21 <Mihir> popey: we both will discuss and will start working on that what say WebbyIT ?

 16:21 <mhall119> try asking the SDK team, or on the Google+ community, or askubuntu

 16:21 <popey> also need to enable scroll wheel support

 16:22 <mhall119> Mihir: maybe http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-1.0/QtQuick.KeyEvent/ will help

 16:22 <Mihir> popey: I'll add in blueprint

 16:22 <Mihir> mhall119:  thanks a lot :)

 16:22 <mhall119> np

 16:22 <popey> thanks

 16:22 <mhall119> we're planning on having a Unity 8 session available on desktops for testing in 14.04, having the core apps usable with keyboard and mouse will really make that experience better

 16:23 <WebbyIT> ok, after meeting Mihir and I talk about this, I think we can do it fast

 16:23 <popey> WebbyIT: Mihir we have milestones for each week..

 16:23 <Mihir> WebbyIT: yeah, we can distribute the work accordingly :)

 16:23 <popey> e.g. coreapps-2013-week-51 coreapps-2013-week-52 etc

 16:24 <popey> so if you could estimate when you think you might have something ready and put it under an appropriate milestone.

 16:24 <WebbyIT> popey, ok, sure

 16:24 <mhall119> WebbyIT: Mihir: when it's working please let me know, I want to  blog about it

 16:24 <Mihir> popey: i may be inactive for few weeks , I am travelling onsite work so , but I'll try for sure

 16:24 <popey> I'll add the others that we've discussed and we can assign those as appropriate

 16:24 <popey> Mihir: ok

 16:24 <Mihir> mhall119: sure :)

 16:25 <Mihir> popey: we don't have any open bugs I guess

 16:25 <Mihir> any major

 16:25 <popey> Well, we can fix that, we should have one for the lack of keyboard/mouse support on desktop

 16:26 <Mihir> WebbyIT: are you busy with any college stuffs ?

 16:26 <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1262747

 16:26 <popey> fixed that for you

 16:26 <Mihir> popey: okay as per our understanding :-

 16:26 <WebbyIT> Mihir, 4 exams between Jan and Feb, but no lessons :-)

 16:26 <Mihir> 1. Keyboard

 16:26 <Mihir> 2.Mouse

 16:26 <Mihir> 3. scientific view

 16:26 <Mihir> am I correct?

 16:26 <popey> i would put scientific after convergence

 16:27 <popey> i.e. it should work in the sidestage on tablets

 16:27 <popey> and be resizable to tablet size and desktop size

 16:27 <Mihir> okay popey gotcha :)

 16:27 <popey> then scientific if we can get those done

 16:28 <popey> Sound reasonable?

 16:28 <Mihir> popey: yeah pretty much :)

 16:28 <WebbyIT> Yap, I updated blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-calculator-dev

 16:28 <popey> I'll have further discussions with the rest of the community team and will paste some more work items in which we can talk about at our next meeting or over email

 16:28 <popey> sweet!

 16:28 <Mihir> mhall119: sure I'll inform you once keyboard inputs are done :)

 16:29 <popey> don't forget tests!

 16:29 <Mihir> popey: sure :)

 16:29 <Mihir> popey: and let us know when you put designer calls on website :)

 16:29 <mhall119> thanks Mihir

 16:29 <WebbyIT> popey, when will next meeting? Next week it's xmas

 16:29 <popey> yeah, skip next week

 16:29 <Mihir> WebbyIT: after new year

 16:29 <popey> mhall119: will do

 16:29 <Mihir> :-D

 16:29 <popey> er, Mihir will do

 16:30 <popey> but will send out an update over email

 16:30 <popey> so you dont forget about me ㋛

 16:30 <Mihir> hahahahah I won't popey  :)

 16:30 <popey> Anything else?

 16:30 <WebbyIT> yeah :D

 16:30 <Mihir> popey:  nothing from my side

 16:31 <WebbyIT> nether mine

 16:31 <popey> Thanks guys. Looking forward to 2014 - it's going to be an exciting year I think ☻

 16:31 <popey> mhall119: anything from you?

 16:31 <mhall119> haven't I given them enough work?

 16:31 <popey> hah

 16:31 <mhall119> :)

 16:31 <popey> I'm sure we can come up with some more ㋛

 16:31 <popey> thanks guys, have a great holiday!

 16:31 <popey> see you in 2 weeks.

 16:31 <mhall119> thanks everyone

 16:31 <WebbyIT> Thanks for the awesome year guys :-) Have nice holiday!

 16:31 <popey> safe travells

 16:31 <popey> #endmeeting



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