== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Calendar app meeting, 19 Dec at 14:02 — 14:43 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2013/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2013-12-19-14.02.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' https://plus.google.com/u/0/109919666334513536939/posts/hpn9o1ztkYN 
''LINK:'' https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SyncEvolution/synchronize-multiple-google-calendars-with-evolution-calendars 
''LINK:'' https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/nextYearFix/+merge/197624 
''LINK:'' http://paste.ubuntu.com/6600028/ 



== Vote results ==




== Action items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * popey (104)
 * pkunal-parmar (47)
 * Mihir (34)
 * renato (9)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 14:02 <popey> #startmeeting Calendar app meeting

 14:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Dec 19 14:02:24 2013 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 14:02 <popey> Calendar App links:-

 14:02 <popey> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bugs

 14:02 <popey> Reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+activereviews

 14:02 <popey> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-calendar-dev

 14:02 <popey> General Links:-

 14:02 <popey> Milestones: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps/+milestones

 14:02 <popey> Burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-14.04/

 14:02 <popey> Blockers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Blockers

 14:03 <popey> a few things to mention as an agenda..

 14:03 <popey> * Deciding on features for 14.04

 14:03 <popey> * Finalise work items

 14:03 <popey> * Setting milestones for work items

 14:03 <popey> * Bugs, merges, work items!

 14:03 <popey> * Blockers

 14:03 <popey> hey pkunal-parmar

 14:03 <Mihir> pkunal-parmar: hey

 14:03 <pkunal-parmar> Hi All

 14:04 <popey> pkunal-parmar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6599833/ is what I said just before you arrived, just so you don't miss anything ☻

 14:04 <popey> For 14.04 I pulled over the existing POSTPONED items from the previous blueprint

 14:04 <popey> as a starting point.

 14:04 <popey> and wanted to talk to you guys about what would be fun to do for 14.04.

 14:05 <popey> The two main things that I had in mind for calendar app were 1) convergence - making the UK fit well on a tablet sized device, and b) syncing

 14:05 <Mihir> syncing with Google calendar?

 14:05 <popey> By syncing I mean synchronising calendar content to a provider of some kind

 14:05 <popey> that could be google, yes.

 14:06 <Mihir> Okay that's sounds great :)

 14:06 <popey> I think that would make the app 10x more useful to everyone.

 14:06 <popey> What do you guys think?

 14:06 <pkunal-parmar> Popey, somehow google cal is synced with calendar for desktop at least

 14:07 <pkunal-parmar> so may be is mostly is EDS work on Calendar work

 14:07 <pkunal-parmar> *not

 14:07 <popey> oh?

 14:07 <popey> I hadn't seen it working on desktop.

 14:07 <Mihir> pkunal-parmar: still we are left with the reminder and completing all the task of EDS , am I correct ?

 14:07 <popey> oh yes, reminders too! good call!

 14:08 <pkunal-parmar> and may be online account needs to provide some support for google login

 14:08 <popey> We have google account login in online accounts already

 14:09 <pkunal-parmar> yes many fields are still not supported by EDS,

 14:09 <pkunal-parmar> I seen mhall was able to sync with google cal

 14:09 <Mihir> pkunal-parmar: yeah we haven't completed that in our first release I guess...

 14:09 <popey> yes, I think he had to jump through some hoops to make the google calendar sync work

 14:10 <popey> https://plus.google.com/u/0/109919666334513536939/posts/hpn9o1ztkYN

 14:10 <popey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SyncEvolution/synchronize-multiple-google-calendars-with-evolution-calendars

 14:10 <pkunal-parmar> so mostly, I would like to complete all missing field support first, I was trying with recurrence already, but EDS is needs to support it

 14:11 <pkunal-parmar> may be same with other fields as well

 14:11 <Mihir> pkunal-parmar: agreed..that needs to supported first and pushed into EDS

 14:12 <popey> I sense some work items forming ㋛

 14:12 <Mihir> popey: what are the timelines for next release ?

 14:12 <popey> I'm glad you asked that!

 14:12 <popey> 14.04 releases at end of april

 14:13 <Mihir> and phone release must be in May correct?

 14:13 <popey> However we also have a deal with a handset manufacturer in the works.

 14:13 <popey> I don't have a timeline for when that handset will be available

 14:13 <popey> It seems some of this (non convergence work) could be ready fairly soon?

 14:13 <pkunal-parmar> that release support tablet as well

 14:14 <popey> i theory, yes.

 14:14 <Mihir> popey: okay

 14:14 <popey> *in

 14:14 <popey> But I think we need more design input for how to show the calendar on tablet form factor first

 14:14 <pkunal-parmar> I realized now we dont have UI designer for calendar team ?

 14:14 <popey> correct

 14:14 <Mihir> popey: why so ?

 14:14 <popey> We put a call out for some designers to get involved

 14:14 <popey> The Canonical design team are stretched to capacity

 14:14 <Mihir> okay :)

 14:15 <popey> However we can try and get some community people involved

 14:15 <popey> I'll take an action to put a call out to help with the convergence designs

 14:15 <Mihir> Okay that sounds great :) I have friend as well i can ask them if they are really interested :)

 14:16 <popey> ok, added a work item to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-calendar-dev

 14:16 <popey> notice I have added it under a milestone for week 51 (this week)

 14:16 <popey> we have milestones setup for the next few weeks.

 14:16 <Mihir> okay

 14:16 <popey> I think we'll have a presence at MWC (February) - Mobile World Congress

 14:17 <popey> be good to have something cool (like sync) to show off there?

 14:17 <Mihir> popey:  where is it happening ?

 14:17 <pkunal-parmar> [popey] - Put out the call for more converged music app designs: TODO

 14:17 <popey> barcelona iirc

 14:17 <popey> doh

 14:17 <popey> copy/paste error

 14:17 <pkunal-parmar> ok :)

 14:17 <Mihir> ohhh okay

 14:17 <popey> thanks

 14:17 <popey> fixed

 14:18 <pkunal-parmar> iCalendar import / export: POSTPONED

 14:18 <pkunal-parmar> we can target this as well

 14:18 <popey> that would be good

 14:18 <popey> we have week milestones setup through to end of feb iirc

 14:18 <pkunal-parmar> I would add reminder and other missing fields support  also

 14:19 <popey> feel free to add work items as appropriate of course

 14:19 <pkunal-parmar> and for google cal sync, I think we need to discuss with renato first

 14:19 <pkunal-parmar> how EDS is going to handle that and what can calendar do for it

 14:19 <popey> renato: you about?

 14:20 <renato> guys the google sync will be done on online accounts

 14:20 <renato> mardy is working on that

 14:20 <Mihir> okay that's great, so there is nothing that needs to be done on application side ??

 14:20 <renato> linke in android you will be able to select which information you want to sync

 14:20 <pkunal-parmar> ok

 14:21 <popey> great.

 14:21 <renato> nothing need to be done on app sinde

 14:21 <renato> side

 14:21 <pkunal-parmar> ranato, I tried your recurrence branch but i faced some issue, I send mail as well

 14:21 <renato> pkunal-parmar, I saw that, could you send me a example, or how to reproduce that

 14:21 <Mihir> popey: you'll put a design call on ubuntu developer website ?

 14:22 <pkunal-parmar> sure

 14:22 <popey> Mihir: not sure exactly where and how.. I'll discuss with dpm and mhall119 and come up with something

 14:22 <Mihir> pkunal-parmar: for MR :- https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni-123/ubuntu-calendar-app/editEvent/+merge/190106 everything is okay right ?? i don't know why it is failing in Jenkins,

 14:22 <pkunal-parmar> may be it just my setup issue, I just tried adding event as usual

 14:22 <pkunal-parmar> now it should pass

 14:22 <Mihir> popey: okay :)

 14:23 <pkunal-parmar> try triggering test again

 14:23 <pkunal-parmar> popey, do you know if I need to do anything special to make autopilot work on 13.10 ?

 14:24 <popey> pass. balloons ?

 14:24 <pkunal-parmar> currently its hanging on my pc

 14:24 <pkunal-parmar> so stuck with one MR

 14:26 <pkunal-parmar> renato, I am also facing issue while deleting event, EDS is not giving any notification for data change event

 14:27 <pkunal-parmar> so not able to update UI after deleting event

 14:27 <renato> pkunal-parmar, please report bugs about that with examples

 14:27 <pkunal-parmar> sure

 14:28 <pkunal-parmar> BTW where should I report bug for EDS

 14:28 <popey> renato: will the eds work support multiple accounts?

 14:29 <renato> popey, yes

 14:29 <renato> each account will be represented as collection on qorganizer

 14:29 <popey> so in the calendar app we're going to have to deal with how we show multiple calendars and show/hide on demand

 14:30 <pkunal-parmar> for show/hide, i think user needs to change setting in account setting

 14:30 <pkunal-parmar> for display we will need to use different color

 14:30 <pkunal-parmar> for event

 14:30 <popey> right.

 14:30 <popey> makes sense.

 14:31 <popey> Are there any other features besides sync, reminders and convergence we'd like?

 14:32 <pkunal-parmar> I can not think of anything else

 14:32 <Mihir> Not from my side as well

 14:32 <popey> Other than bug fixing and polish of course ☻

 14:33 <pkunal-parmar> I think for 4 month this much work items are enough :)

 14:33 <popey> Indeed. Now holidays!

 14:34 <popey> The only other thing I wanted to mention is that we want to try and keep on top of any blockers you have

 14:34 <Mihir> ahaha yeah pkunal-parmar

 14:34 <popey> so if there's anything blocking from platform, sdk or others, we want to track it so nothing gets lost

 14:34 <popey> we'll review that to make sure we're making progress

 14:34 <Mihir> pkunal-parmar: I'll patch you up with work :)

 14:35 <pkunal-parmar> yes current blocker is autopilot for me, it does not work on my pc

 14:35 <pkunal-parmar> I heard it needs new python version to make it work ?

 14:35 <popey> I'm running 13.10 here..

 14:36 <popey> but I tend to use AP On the device, not on my desktop

 14:36 <popey> do you have a set of steps you're running that are failing so I can try it?

 14:36 <pkunal-parmar> popey, what is latest instruction to update device,  I have 13.10 and did not updated it afterwards

 14:37 <popey> phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel trusty

 14:37 <popey> ^^ that

 14:37 <pkunal-parmar> https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/nextYearFix/+merge/197624

 14:37 <pkunal-parmar> no steps,  I just used autopilot run calendar-app

 14:37 <pkunal-parmar> but it hangs

 14:37 <pkunal-parmar> gets darken and does nothing

 14:38 <pkunal-parmar> I need to fix something to get above MR merged

 14:38 <popey> I would update your phone to trusty

 14:38 <popey> the latest stable image is #73 and it's pretty solid

 14:38 <pkunal-parmar> I will try device then and see it that works fine

 14:38 <popey> when I want to run AP tests I use this script:-

 14:38 <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6600028/

 14:39 <popey> ./testing.sh lp:ubuntu-calendar-app calendar_app

 14:39 <popey> ^^ like that

 14:39 <popey> but point it at your branch on that merge, and it will do the tests on the device

 14:39 <popey> you don't need to make the phone read/write, it does it all in the home directory, works quite well

 14:39 <popey> you just have to make sure the screen doesn't go to sleep when the test starts

 14:39 <popey> that should be more successful.

 14:40 <pkunal-parmar> ok, this sounds great, will try that

 14:40 <popey> do let me know if that doesn't work and we'll get balloons on the case.

 14:40 <popey> brilliant.

 14:40 <popey> Anything else we need to discuss?

 14:40 <pkunal-parmar> No. I am done now

 14:40 <Mihir> popey: nope nothing from my side

 14:41 <popey> sweet!

 14:41 <Mihir> popey: are we gonna meet next week ?

 14:41 <Mihir> I guess it's holidays so just asking

 14:41 <popey> I think we need a break ☻

 14:41 <popey> after one busy meeting ㋛

 14:41 <popey> lets meet up again after next week.

 14:41 <Mihir> hehehe okay so, and also one day earlier one day pkunal-parmar

 14:41 <Mihir> ?

 14:42 <Mihir> i mean wednesday will work for all ?

 14:42 <popey> eh?

 14:42 <Mihir> Meeting day

 14:42 <popey> is thursday not good for you Mihir ?

 14:42 <Mihir> actually I am travelling next week for two months

 14:42 <popey> gosh.

 14:42 <Mihir> for some office work  :(

 14:43 <Mihir> anyways we'll discuss afterwards that's fine

 14:43 <popey> Ok. Lets keep in touch via email if you're not around for the irc meeting.

 14:43 <popey> Or whenever you're on irc.

 14:43 <popey> You know I'm around most of the time.

 14:43 <Mihir> popey: sure :)

 14:43 <Mihir> popey: yeah i know :) I'll send you email

 14:43 <popey> Ok, lets wrap.

 14:43 <popey> Thanks guys!

 14:43 <popey> #endmeeting



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