== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Music App meeting, 19 Dec at 12:02 — 12:37 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2013/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2013-12-19-12.02.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==




== Vote results ==




== Action items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * popey (84)
 * ahayzen (41)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 12:02 <popey> #startmeeting Music App meeting

 12:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Dec 19 12:02:44 2013 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 12:02 <popey> Music App links:-

 12:02 <popey> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bugs

 12:02 <popey> Reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/music-app/+activereviews

 12:02 <popey> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-music-dev

 12:03 <popey> General Links:-

 12:03 <popey> Milestones: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps/+milestones

 12:03 <popey> Burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-14.04/

 12:03 <popey> Blockers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Blockers

 12:03 <popey> So I had a few things to mention as an agenda..

 12:03 <popey> * Deciding on features for 14.04

 12:03 <popey> * Finalise work items

 12:03 <popey> * Setting milestones for work items

 12:03 <popey> * Bugs, merges, work items!

 12:03 <popey> * Blockers

 12:04 <popey> We have some work items already, but I wanted us to finalise what we actually want as features for 14.04 and nail down the work items for them

 12:04 <ahayzen> ok

 12:04 <popey> Most of the work items in the blueprint are items carried over from last cycle.

 12:05 <ahayzen> is there anything in the list that we don't want/don't have?

 12:05 <popey> Not necessarily new features.

 12:06 <popey> so there's a few items in the blueprint which may or may not be appropriate anymore.

 12:06 <popey> and many with no owner

 12:06 <popey> and no milestones ☻

 12:07 <ahayzen> i can see one or two that i can take

 12:07 <popey> great, go ahead.

 12:07 <ahayzen> yeah we need to add milestones

 12:07 <popey> the milestone link above has a list of milestones

 12:08 <ahayzen> 'Change settings from LocalStorage to GSettings'?...i saw some other apps storing their settings in U1?

 12:09 <popey> yeah, that needs some thought

 12:10 <ahayzen> ok i'll check the rest with Daniel and Victor...cause i know Victor has been working on the album view so he may be able to take 'Show albums in gallery like view' for example

 12:10 <popey> ok, so I added a couple of easy milestones so we can see the new format

 12:10 <popey> so you may want to refresh the blueprint

 12:10 <ahayzen> i see it now :)

 12:11 <popey> So some of the ideas we had previously for this cycle...

 12:12 <popey> Streaming music support

 12:12 <popey> Obtaining track metadata from 3rd parties

 12:12 <popey> Gallery view for album art

 12:12 <popey> Playlist synchronization (U1DB?)

 12:13 <ahayzen> they would all be good to do :) probably the first two being the hardest

 12:13 <popey> yeah.

 12:13 <popey> we have an inprogress for qml bindings

 12:13 <popey> i need to check in with mikemc and see what happened there

 12:13 <ahayzen> but i think convergence is of the highest priority this cycle?

 12:14 <popey> Well. Good question.

 12:14 <popey> Yes is the short answer

 12:14 * ahayzen has been having fun playing with conditional layouts

 12:14 <popey> Oh excellent!

 12:15 <popey> But as you may have seen we have a mobile partner who has yet to be named.

 12:15 <ahayzen> just we haven't got much for design... https://ubuntu.mybalsamiq.com/projects/coreappsconvergence/grid

 12:15 <popey> I don't know any details about it but it would make sense for us to polish up all of the apps for that so a device shipping has the best possible apps.

 12:15 <popey> yeah

 12:16 <ahayzen> suggesting we need to focus on making the phone awesome/finished?

 12:16 <popey> both really ⍨

 12:16 <ahayzen> cool

 12:16 <popey> I'm not saying we shouldn't focus on convergence, just that we need to be mindful that the phone needs to be awesome too ☻

 12:17 <ahayzen> yep understood

 12:18 <popey> So perhaps it makes sense for us to focus on the convergence and the gallery view and playlist sync?

 12:18 <popey> Rather than music streaming

 12:18 <ahayzen> yep good plan

 12:18 <popey> But without some good designs for the tablet UI that might be tricky

 12:18 <ahayzen> is there a work item for playlist sync...

 12:19 <popey> I think we need to put the call out again specifically for the music app.

 12:19 <ahayzen> ah yes found it :)

 12:19 <popey> [danielholm] Sync playlist using Ubuntu One: TODO

 12:19 <popey> yes

 12:19 <ahayzen> yep ... Victor was thinking of asking the design clinic to help a bit?

 12:19 <ahayzen> eg go through the current designs we have and suggest any ideas they have

 12:19 <popey> yeah, be good to get more designs though

 12:19 <popey> pick the best bits

 12:19 <popey> in a design clinic

 12:20 <ahayzen> i'll see if i can figure out how to make some designs :)

 12:20 <popey> heh

 12:20 <ahayzen> do we just add them as separate items?

 12:20 <popey> I'll add an item for me to put the call out for more designs

 12:20 <popey> for this week.

 12:20 <ahayzen> or do we 'propose alternate version'?

 12:21 <ahayzen> ok

 12:22 <popey> So regarding these work items I'll ping a mail to the team and see if we can get names on everything and set some milestones

 12:22 <popey> even if we don't hit them, it would be good to have our expectations set

 12:22 <ahayzen> yep agreed

 12:23 <popey> On the subject of blockers, we want to maintain a public wiki page which contains the list of things we need to get resolved by other teams

 12:23 <popey> I need to review the page in its current state and clean out anything which is now unblocked

 12:24 <popey> but we intend to use that as a central place for all blocked items

 12:24 <popey> and we will regularly poke platform / sdk / toolkit people to get status updates

 12:24 <popey> so you guys know what's going on

 12:24 <popey> and we'll update at the meeting each week.

 12:24 <ahayzen> ok that should be useful

 12:25 <popey> The other thing is of course keeping on top of bugs.

 12:25 <popey> I know most of the recent bugs have been QA / test / autopilot related

 12:25 <popey> but we need to keep on top of any user-reported bugs too

 12:25 <ahayzen> i think we have been keeping on top ish...they have been going out as fast as they are coming in

 12:25 <popey> yeah, you guys have been awesome with that

 12:26 <popey> want to keep that awesome going!

 12:26 <popey> I have an odd bug on my phone and I need to investigate and file it

 12:26 <popey> unity crashes ⍨

 12:26 <popey> nothing to do with music app, probably a metadata thing

 12:26 <ahayzen> there are a few we are stuck on eg... https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1261925

 12:27 <ahayzen> more info in the comments in the MP https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/fix-empty-metadata-state-show-unknown/+merge/199370

 12:27 <ahayzen> but basically we are unsure what to  call metadata tht has no metadata

 12:27 <popey> Ok, I'll take a look after the meeting.

 12:28 <ahayzen> thanks

 12:29 <popey> Anything else you wanted to talk about?

 12:29 <ahayzen> what is happening regarding releasing click updates to the store?

 12:30 <ahayzen> i saw you started a discussion regarding multiple versions

 12:31 <popey> At the moment we ping sergio to push the click package to the store

 12:31 <popey> I then test it locally to verify it's okay and then I approve it, then it hits the next build and is available as an OTA update to users

 12:31 <popey> This will be more automated soon.

 12:31 <ahayzen> ah ok i see

 12:31 <popey> but at the moment it's a bit manual

 12:33 <ahayzen> don't think there is anything more from me this week :)

 12:33 <ahayzen> who is best to talk about SDK components?

 12:34 <popey> Ok.

 12:34 <popey> In what context?

 12:34 <ahayzen> i wanted to know if the reorder support was expected to land this cycle...cause i have nearly extended our support a bit to add scrolling

 12:35 <ahayzen> but there is no point on working on it if the SDK is gonna support it soon anyway

 12:35 <popey> bzoltan is the main guy

 12:35 <ahayzen> ok thx

 12:35 <popey> but t1mp may be around more

 12:35 <popey> go for t1mp first

 12:36 <ahayzen> will do :)

 12:36 <popey> Anything else?

 12:36 <ahayzen> don't think so :)

 12:36 <popey> sweet! If I don't speak to you before, have a great christmas...

 12:36 <ahayzen> u 2 and a happy new year :)

 12:37 <popey> #endmeeting



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