== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Ubuntu Touch App Calendar app meeting, 05 Sep at 14:03 — 14:43 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2013/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2013-09-05-14.03.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/new_week_day_view/+merge/183879 looks interesting ☻
''LINK:'' http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-05-150810.png 
''LINK:'' http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-05-150753.png 
''LINK:'' http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-05-150800.png 
''LINK:'' http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-05-150805.png 
''LINK:'' http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-05-151006.png 
''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1221250 
''LINK:'' https://communities.vmware.com/thread/455656 
''LINK:'' https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/QtOrganizer 



== Vote results ==




== Action items ==

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== People present (lines said) ==

 * popey (45)
 * dpm (29)
 * pkunal-parmar (24)
 * oSoMoN (9)
 * renato_ (8)
 * mhall119 (7)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 14:03 <popey> #startmeeting Ubuntu Touch App Calendar app meeting

 14:03 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Sep  5 14:03:41 2013 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 14:04 <popey> blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-calendar-development

 14:04 <dpm> hi pkunal-parmar

 14:04 <pkunal-parmar> Hi

 14:04 <popey> bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0

 14:04 <popey> reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+activereviews

 14:04 <mhall119> o/

 14:04 <popey> https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/new_week_day_view/+merge/183879 looks interesting ☻

 14:05 <pkunal-parmar> that's approved not, it should merge now

 14:05 <popey> nice timing oSoMoN ☻

 14:05 <oSoMoN> hey all

 14:05 <popey> we need to just put some more coal in jenkins so it gets merged

 14:06 <popey> burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/

 14:06 <popey> I've not had a chance to check out the new week/day view yet.. dpm / mhall119 have you?

 14:07 <dpm> I have, it looks pretty awesome

 14:07 <popey> sweet!

 14:07 * popey is building it now

 14:07 <dpm> oSoMoN reviewed the latest branch that implements the final visual changes, and afaik, it's just pending a small fix to handle localized dates

 14:07 <oSoMoN> dpm: it’s fixed, about to land

 14:07 <dpm> \o/

 14:08 <dpm> that one will make such a big difference!

 14:08 <popey> ooh, looks nice!

 14:08 <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-05-150810.png

 14:09 <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-05-150753.png

 14:09 <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-05-150800.png

 14:09 <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-05-150805.png

 14:09 <popey> \o/

 14:09 <popey> Nice work pkunal-parmar & oSoMoN !

 14:09 <pkunal-parmar> I wonder why that arrow remains black

 14:09 <pkunal-parmar> thanks :)

 14:09 <pkunal-parmar> arrow in tab

 14:10 <popey> its the same in other apps

 14:10 <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-05-151006.png

 14:10 <pkunal-parmar> ok, I thought I am missing something

 14:10 <popey> (ignore the squished people pictures)

 14:11 <popey> yeah, looks like they're all affected http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-05-151044.png

 14:11 <popey> bug in the toolkit perhaps?

 14:11 <popey> have you explicitly set the arrow colour?

 14:11 <pkunal-parmar> no

 14:12 <dpm> I've noticed that too, I think it's dependent on the toolkit

 14:12 <mhall119> popey: I played with whatever the latest package is in the PPA

 14:12 <pkunal-parmar> I was trying to find something

 14:12 <mhall119> it had the new views but not the new visual styles

 14:13 <dpm> popey, so we discussed yesterday with pkunal-parmar on the channel to focus on the new event UI now

 14:13 <mhall119> scrolling the year view is a bit slow, I suspect due to the large number of components on screen

 14:13 <dpm> and then on the Qt Organizer/e-d-s backend

 14:13 <popey> that makes sense.

 14:14 <dpm> renato_, what's the status of the eds work?

 14:14 <mhall119> having the e-d-s backend working should also automatically give the calendar app the ability to trigger reminder alarms, since I'm told that's where the Clock alarms are going ot be stored as well

 14:16 <mhall119> it may also automatically give us Google calendar syncing, which would be *awesome*

 14:16 <popey> ooh!

 14:16 <popey> That would excite me greatly.

 14:17 <renato_> dpm, the basic functionality is works you can use the qorganizer model to create/edit/delete events

 14:17 <renato_> dpm, I am working with zsombi to implement visual/audible reminders

 14:17 <popey> Great, thanks renato_

 14:17 <renato_> and full recurrence support

 14:18 <dpm> renato_, nice! does that mean the calendar app can already use it?

 14:18 <renato_> yes

 14:18 <dpm> then we just need to backport the package to 13.04 for pkunal-parmar to give it a go

 14:19 <oSoMoN> renato_: there is a PPA with the packages in it, right? does it have packages for 13.04 too?

 14:19 <renato_> dpm, the problem is that the code is changing very fast and  backporting it can take some time

 14:20 <dpm> can we not set a daily build recipe?

 14:20 <popey> or do the backporting only on particular milestones?

 14:20 <popey> if it's significant work

 14:20 <renato_> oSoMoN, dpm , it is using the new EDS API (3.8) I am not sure how much work is necessary to port it to 3.6

 14:21 <dpm> are the two APIs very different?

 14:21 <renato_> dpm, I do not know

 14:22 <oSoMoN> pkunal-parmar: have you considered upgrading your dev machine to saucy?

 14:22 <renato_> should be very close

 14:22 <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1221250

 14:22 <mhall119> pkunal-parmar: are you willing to upgrade to 13.10?  It's been very stable for me

 14:22 <pkunal-parmar> I have not tried

 14:23 <pkunal-parmar> I use vmware heavily  on ubuntu , does that work fine ?

 14:23 <dpm> I think it should, yeah.

 14:23 <dpm> Only Virtualbox doesn't seem to be able to run SDK apps

 14:23 <pkunal-parmar> ok, then I will try upgrade

 14:24 <dpm> awesome

 14:24 <popey> i think pkunal-parmar is saying he runs vmware _on_ ubuntu, not ubuntu _in_ vmware?

 14:24 <popey> is that right pkunal-parmar ?

 14:24 <pkunal-parmar> yes, that's right

 14:24 <dpm> ah, an important distinction, sorry, I misunderstood

 14:25 <dpm> so I don't actually know how well vmware works on 13.10, anyone?

 14:25 <pkunal-parmar> I had a hard time lat time when I moved to 13.04

 14:26 <pkunal-parmar> mostly due to kernel changes

 14:26 <oSoMoN> pkunal-parmar: you might want to give it a shot with a live CD without installing first, to check how well vmware works before actually upgrading

 14:26 <popey> https://communities.vmware.com/thread/455656

 14:27 <popey> looks like there's a small patch in that thread to make it work

 14:27 <pkunal-parmar> right, that's nice suggestion, I will that

 14:27 <popey> for both linux kernel 3.10 and 3.11

 14:27 <oSoMoN> popey, dpm: so what’s left on the roadmap for calendar-app to be ready for 13.10?

 14:28 <dpm> oSoMoN, I think roughly the new event view and the ability to save events and set reminders

 14:28 <popey> +1

 14:28 <popey> Pretty much anything else is "nice to have"

 14:28 <dpm> and a few visual tweaks with the final visual design, but I hope they are trivial to implement, and I consider them only "nice to have" too

 14:28 <oSoMoN> I’m guessing using the EDS backend implies a significant amount of work

 14:30 <pkunal-parmar> oSoMoN, I have tried to use Qt Organizer,

 14:30 <dpm> oSoMoN, I think that should be transparent, as we're using Qt Organizer, not EDS directly. I'm not sure how much refactoring will be needed to port the current event code to Qt Organizer. pkunal-parmar, what's your view on this?

 14:30 <pkunal-parmar> with memory as backend

 14:30 <oSoMoN> dpm: yeah, the issue is that we’re *not* using QtOrganizer yet, but once we are we should be good

 14:31 * dpm nods

 14:31 <pkunal-parmar> https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/QtOrganizer

 14:32 <pkunal-parmar> here is branch, it can add events to organizer and list it

 14:32 <dpm> pkunal-parmar, you're a machine

 14:33 <pkunal-parmar> its vary old branch

 14:33 <dpm> just discussing the work, and boom! here's a branch :)

 14:33 <dpm> ok, nevertheless :)

 14:34 <pkunal-parmar> but that branch works well with QtOrganizer

 14:34 <pkunal-parmar> but its uses memory

 14:34 <pkunal-parmar> it should work if we change backend to eds

 14:34 <dpm> renato_, you know Qt Organizer best, is it trivial to migrate from the memory engine to e-d-s?

 14:38 <popey> ok.

 14:38 <popey> We're over-running..

 14:38 <oSoMoN> pkunal-parmar, dpm, renato_: are you gonna join the hangout with design?

 14:39 <pkunal-parmar> sure

 14:39 <popey> Thanks.

 14:39 <popey> dpm: mhall119 anything else?

 14:39 <dpm> popey, yeah, a quick one

 14:40 <dpm> popey, today might be a good day to share your magic script with Lina to get them to test the visuals without having to wait for the next image :)

 14:40 <popey> yeah, gonna blog it after calls

 14:40 <popey> will poke design with it too

 14:42 <dpm> awesome

 14:43 <popey> #endmeeting



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