14:03 <popey> #startmeeting Ubuntu Touch App Calendar app meeting 14:03 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Sep 5 14:03:41 2013 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:03 <meetingology> 14:03 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 14:04 <popey> blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-calendar-development 14:04 <dpm> hi pkunal-parmar 14:04 <pkunal-parmar> Hi 14:04 <popey> bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 14:04 <popey> reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+activereviews 14:04 <mhall119> o/ 14:04 <popey> https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/new_week_day_view/+merge/183879 looks interesting ☻ 14:05 <pkunal-parmar> that's approved not, it should merge now 14:05 <popey> nice timing oSoMoN ☻ 14:05 <oSoMoN> hey all 14:05 <popey> we need to just put some more coal in jenkins so it gets merged 14:06 <popey> burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/ 14:06 <popey> I've not had a chance to check out the new week/day view yet.. dpm / mhall119 have you? 14:07 <dpm> I have, it looks pretty awesome 14:07 <popey> sweet! 14:07 * popey is building it now 14:07 <dpm> oSoMoN reviewed the latest branch that implements the final visual changes, and afaik, it's just pending a small fix to handle localized dates 14:07 <oSoMoN> dpm: it’s fixed, about to land 14:07 <dpm> \o/ 14:08 <dpm> that one will make such a big difference! 14:08 <popey> ooh, looks nice! 14:08 <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-05-150810.png 14:09 <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-05-150753.png 14:09 <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-05-150800.png 14:09 <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-05-150805.png 14:09 <popey> \o/ 14:09 <popey> Nice work pkunal-parmar & oSoMoN ! 14:09 <pkunal-parmar> I wonder why that arrow remains black 14:09 <pkunal-parmar> thanks :) 14:09 <pkunal-parmar> arrow in tab 14:10 <popey> its the same in other apps 14:10 <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-05-151006.png 14:10 <pkunal-parmar> ok, I thought I am missing something 14:10 <popey> (ignore the squished people pictures) 14:11 <popey> yeah, looks like they're all affected http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-05-151044.png 14:11 <popey> bug in the toolkit perhaps? 14:11 <popey> have you explicitly set the arrow colour? 14:11 <pkunal-parmar> no 14:12 <dpm> I've noticed that too, I think it's dependent on the toolkit 14:12 <mhall119> popey: I played with whatever the latest package is in the PPA 14:12 <pkunal-parmar> I was trying to find something 14:12 <mhall119> it had the new views but not the new visual styles 14:13 <dpm> popey, so we discussed yesterday with pkunal-parmar on the channel to focus on the new event UI now 14:13 <mhall119> scrolling the year view is a bit slow, I suspect due to the large number of components on screen 14:13 <dpm> and then on the Qt Organizer/e-d-s backend 14:13 <popey> that makes sense. 14:14 <dpm> renato_, what's the status of the eds work? 14:14 <mhall119> having the e-d-s backend working should also automatically give the calendar app the ability to trigger reminder alarms, since I'm told that's where the Clock alarms are going ot be stored as well 14:16 <mhall119> it may also automatically give us Google calendar syncing, which would be *awesome* 14:16 <popey> ooh! 14:16 <popey> That would excite me greatly. 14:17 <renato_> dpm, the basic functionality is works you can use the qorganizer model to create/edit/delete events 14:17 <renato_> dpm, I am working with zsombi to implement visual/audible reminders 14:17 <popey> Great, thanks renato_ 14:17 <renato_> and full recurrence support 14:18 <dpm> renato_, nice! does that mean the calendar app can already use it? 14:18 <renato_> yes 14:18 <dpm> then we just need to backport the package to 13.04 for pkunal-parmar to give it a go 14:19 <oSoMoN> renato_: there is a PPA with the packages in it, right? does it have packages for 13.04 too? 14:19 <renato_> dpm, the problem is that the code is changing very fast and backporting it can take some time 14:20 <dpm> can we not set a daily build recipe? 14:20 <popey> or do the backporting only on particular milestones? 14:20 <popey> if it's significant work 14:20 <renato_> oSoMoN, dpm , it is using the new EDS API (3.8) I am not sure how much work is necessary to port it to 3.6 14:21 <dpm> are the two APIs very different? 14:21 <renato_> dpm, I do not know 14:22 <oSoMoN> pkunal-parmar: have you considered upgrading your dev machine to saucy? 14:22 <renato_> should be very close 14:22 <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1221250 14:22 <mhall119> pkunal-parmar: are you willing to upgrade to 13.10? It's been very stable for me 14:22 <pkunal-parmar> I have not tried 14:23 <pkunal-parmar> I use vmware heavily on ubuntu , does that work fine ? 14:23 <dpm> I think it should, yeah. 14:23 <dpm> Only Virtualbox doesn't seem to be able to run SDK apps 14:23 <pkunal-parmar> ok, then I will try upgrade 14:24 <dpm> awesome 14:24 <popey> i think pkunal-parmar is saying he runs vmware _on_ ubuntu, not ubuntu _in_ vmware? 14:24 <popey> is that right pkunal-parmar ? 14:24 <pkunal-parmar> yes, that's right 14:24 <dpm> ah, an important distinction, sorry, I misunderstood 14:25 <dpm> so I don't actually know how well vmware works on 13.10, anyone? 14:25 <pkunal-parmar> I had a hard time lat time when I moved to 13.04 14:26 <pkunal-parmar> mostly due to kernel changes 14:26 <oSoMoN> pkunal-parmar: you might want to give it a shot with a live CD without installing first, to check how well vmware works before actually upgrading 14:26 <popey> https://communities.vmware.com/thread/455656 14:27 <popey> looks like there's a small patch in that thread to make it work 14:27 <pkunal-parmar> right, that's nice suggestion, I will that 14:27 <popey> for both linux kernel 3.10 and 3.11 14:27 <oSoMoN> popey, dpm: so what’s left on the roadmap for calendar-app to be ready for 13.10? 14:28 <dpm> oSoMoN, I think roughly the new event view and the ability to save events and set reminders 14:28 <popey> +1 14:28 <popey> Pretty much anything else is "nice to have" 14:28 <dpm> and a few visual tweaks with the final visual design, but I hope they are trivial to implement, and I consider them only "nice to have" too 14:28 <oSoMoN> I’m guessing using the EDS backend implies a significant amount of work 14:30 <pkunal-parmar> oSoMoN, I have tried to use Qt Organizer, 14:30 <dpm> oSoMoN, I think that should be transparent, as we're using Qt Organizer, not EDS directly. I'm not sure how much refactoring will be needed to port the current event code to Qt Organizer. pkunal-parmar, what's your view on this? 14:30 <pkunal-parmar> with memory as backend 14:30 <oSoMoN> dpm: yeah, the issue is that we’re *not* using QtOrganizer yet, but once we are we should be good 14:31 * dpm nods 14:31 <pkunal-parmar> https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/QtOrganizer 14:32 <pkunal-parmar> here is branch, it can add events to organizer and list it 14:32 <dpm> pkunal-parmar, you're a machine 14:33 <pkunal-parmar> its vary old branch 14:33 <dpm> just discussing the work, and boom! here's a branch :) 14:33 <dpm> ok, nevertheless :) 14:34 <pkunal-parmar> but that branch works well with QtOrganizer 14:34 <pkunal-parmar> but its uses memory 14:34 <pkunal-parmar> it should work if we change backend to eds 14:34 <dpm> renato_, you know Qt Organizer best, is it trivial to migrate from the memory engine to e-d-s? 14:38 <popey> ok. 14:38 <popey> We're over-running.. 14:38 <oSoMoN> pkunal-parmar, dpm, renato_: are you gonna join the hangout with design? 14:39 <pkunal-parmar> sure 14:39 <popey> Thanks. 14:39 <popey> dpm: mhall119 anything else? 14:39 <dpm> popey, yeah, a quick one 14:40 <dpm> popey, today might be a good day to share your magic script with Lina to get them to test the visuals without having to wait for the next image :) 14:40 <popey> yeah, gonna blog it after calls 14:40 <popey> will poke design with it too 14:42 <dpm> awesome 14:43 <popey> #endmeeting