19:03 <popey> #startmeeting ubuntu touch music app meeting
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19:03 <popey> blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-music-development
19:04 <popey> bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0
19:04 <popey> reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/music-app/+activereviews
19:04 <popey> https://code.launchpad.net/music-app/+activereviews
19:04 <popey> bah
19:04 <popey> burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/
19:05 <popey> so the first thing to mention is the fact that we're at the end of month-4 milestone
19:05 <ahayzen> I see we have our own burndown now :) http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/music-app-dev.html
19:05 <popey> so we need to assign work items for month-5 which ends mid-september
19:06 <popey> ooh! didnt know that
19:06 <popey> thats a shallow line!
19:07 <ahayzen> so we need to move the work items in the blueprint to month-5?
19:07 <popey> yes
19:07 <popey> those that are blocked, inprogress and todo
19:07 <popey> and review them to make sure they're accurate
19:07 <ahayzen> ok, yeah need to talk with Victor and Daniel about them
19:08 <popey> yeah
19:08 <ahayzen> what happened with the autopilot? were we in a state where desktop was passing but phone wasn't?
19:09 <popey> it passes here
19:09 <popey> well, let me check the log
19:09 <popey> ooh, 2 fails
19:10 <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5993856/
19:10 <popey> thats running on a nexus 4
19:10 <ahayzen> i added a patch which fixed the initial issues of it not running... but it was failing on phone for some reason
19:10 * popey waves to balloons
19:11 <ahayzen> oh yeah and we were discussing about how to get multiple tracks so that next/pre/shuffle can be tested
19:11 <ahayzen> as there is only one in the example-content
19:11 <popey> hm
19:12 <balloons> yay, music app!
19:12 <popey> hey balloons
19:12 <popey> see above
19:14 <ahayzen> seems to all pass when i run locally http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5993867/
19:14 <balloons> atm, it's running the lab just fine
19:14 <popey> i ran it on a phone running the read-only image
19:14 <popey> so that may be a factor
19:15 <balloons> have a look: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/3564/music-app-autopilot/
19:15 <popey> i believe you ☻
19:15 <balloons> lol, well we need to expand the tests, and I too have had trouble getting it to run on my desktop and device at times
19:15 <balloons> normally the lab is more finicky, but :-)
19:15 <ahayzen> :) ... is there a summary page I can use to see the tests from the lab?
19:15 <balloons> ahayzen, yes: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/
19:16 <balloons> I've got a post I'll share today with everyone spreading around this link and talking about it
19:16 <balloons> so it'll hit the list and g+, in case you lose it
19:16 <ahayzen> awesome :)
19:17 <balloons> yes.. so good work on having the tests work and be stable.. I'd like to convert them to the sdk, and add more tests onto them.. but that of course is pending development of new features, etc
19:17 <ahayzen> yeah, we need tests for next/previous/shuffle... but the issue is there is only 1 song in the example-content
19:18 <balloons> ahayzen, I thought we solved that issue by using the public domain music
19:18 <balloons> ?
19:18 <balloons> well, I should say planned to solve it
19:18 <ahayzen> i think it was discussed... maybe not implemented yet?
19:19 <ahayzen> I'll have a chat with Victor and see if he has done anything about tht
19:22 <ahayzen> popey, anything else we need to discuss? I guess start doing some of the things we talked about earlier?
19:22 <popey> not from me
19:22 <popey> basically, yeah, lets get cracking!
19:22 <popey> ☻
19:22 <ahayzen> hehe
19:22 <popey> anything from your side?
19:23 <ahayzen> erm all i'm worried about was the issue of the binding loops, but I haven't checked if they still exist recently
19:23 <popey> whats the issue?
19:23 <ahayzen> turn shuffle on... hit next a few times and it'll freeze for ~10secs
19:24 <ahayzen> and ur get loads of binding loops in the terminal
19:24 <popey> oh, not seen that
19:24 <ahayzen> it seems to be related to when the header is being shown/hidden when the highlight is moving rapidly up/down the list
19:25 <popey> hey daniel-holm
19:25 <ahayzen> and if IIRC there was something about polish()
19:25 <ahayzen> daniel-holm, o/
19:25 <daniel-holm> Sorry. I always forget its 19.00 and not 19.30
19:25 <popey> you need a calendar app! :D
19:26 <ahayzen> yep lol
19:26 <daniel-holm> I have one...
19:26 <daniel-holm> It doesnt always help :-P
19:27 <popey> is there anything specific you need to raise daniel-holm ?
19:27 <daniel-holm> Nope. Only that im excited to get started with new stuff
19:28 <ahayzen> popey, u get QQuickWindow: possible QQuickItem::polish() loop.... when it freezes
19:28 <daniel-holm> I'll read the log later
19:28 <ahayzen> popey, and before/after u get QML Page: Binding loop detected for property "height"
19:28 <popey> oof. is there a bug filed for it?
19:28 <ahayzen> erm don't think so...
19:28 <ahayzen> i'll add one if there isn't
19:29 <ahayzen> it was in the comment of a merge proposal i think
19:29 <ahayzen> but was found to be in the main branch before the merge
19:29 <popey> feel free to ping me the bug and I'll try and reproduce it on the device here
19:30 <ahayzen> me and Victor have both looked at it and can't figure it out.... we both came to the conclusion it is SDK related
19:30 <ahayzen> (although we could be wrong)
19:30 <popey> sooner we get a bug the sooner we can poke the sdk guys with it ☻
19:31 <ahayzen> ok i'll add a bug and ping it over to u ;)
19:31 <popey> yay
19:31 <popey> thanks
19:32 <popey> cant wait to see some of the awesome design stuff turned into reality!
19:32 <popey> anything else to discuss?
19:32 <daniel-holm> Same here!
19:32 <ahayzen> same :)
19:33 <ahayzen> do we have an ETA for the announcement? or we not allowed to say?
19:33 <popey> hmm, good question, i don't know actually
19:34 <popey> i dont think the lack of announcement should block you though
19:34 <ahayzen> cause we can only do so much without pushing to LP
19:34 <popey> feel free to push!
19:34 <daniel-holm> Really?
19:34 <popey> yup
19:34 <ahayzen> i thought we were supposed to hold off before the design post?
19:35 <popey> hm
19:35 <popey> did i misunderstand that then?
19:35 <daniel-holm> Alright then. I've been waiting on ann befire start pushing
19:35 <ahayzen> (thts wht we were previously told)
19:35 <popey> i dont think that was said today in the design meeting
19:35 <ahayzen> they said 'prototypes' ?
19:35 <ahayzen> which we could then show to them/each other i guess?
19:35 <popey> hmm
19:35 <daniel-holm> No, but in the first showoff of the new stuff, right?
19:36 <popey> its going to be difficult building this without you guys being able to push
19:36 <popey> mhall119: opinions sought!
19:36 <ahayzen> it said 'Strictly confidential' in the video
19:36 <popey> oh sure, don't show the video or doc, or screenshots
19:36 <popey> problem is as soon as you push, various blogs will pick it up
19:37 <daniel-holm> Precisely
19:37 <ahayzen> hehe ... did i tell u they have bots?
19:37 <ahayzen> (or heard tht they do)
19:37 <daniel-holm> What?
19:37 <popey> launchpad has rss feeds, its not hard to find this stuff ☻
19:37 <ahayzen> they watch the bzr commits... and then have keywords etc tht rank them
19:38 <popey> ok, well, given it's friday night I can't get a definitive answer until monday
19:38 <popey> so hold off until I get that
19:38 <ahayzen> ok np
19:38 <popey> sorry guys
19:38 <ahayzen> i think we need to have a technical meeting anyways
19:38 <ahayzen> we need to choose who it doing wht and how it is going to work etc
19:38 <popey> well, you could certainly discuss that over private mail
19:39 <popey> or maybe setup #ubuntu-touch-music or something, and discuss there
19:39 <ahayzen> yeah we talk in GTalk sometimes :)
19:39 <popey> sweet
19:39 <popey> whatever works best for you
19:39 <ahayzen> (or hangouts or whtever its called these days)
19:39 <daniel-holm> Haha
19:39 <daniel-holm> We fix :-)
19:40 <popey> sweet
19:40 <ahayzen> popey, i think thts all from me :) ... i send u the bug # when i've done it
19:40 <popey> great, thanks
19:40 <popey> ok, lets wrap
19:40 <popey> have a great weekend chaps!
19:41 <daniel-holm> Take care
19:41 <popey> #endmeeting