19:56 #startmeeting ubuntu touch file manager app meeting 19:56 Meeting started Thu Aug 1 19:56:48 2013 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 19:56 19:56 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 19:56 hi ajalkane / CarlosMazieri_ 19:57 hi popey 19:57 howdy popey 19:57 blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-filemanager-development 19:57 * balloons apologies for the giant merge 19:57 bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 19:57 especially to poor michael who is not here 19:57 reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+activereviews 19:57 burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/ 19:59 how you doing guys? 19:59 I was at OSCOn last week, and surprised a few people when demonstrating the phone - "look, it even has a file manager" :D 20:00 that's nice to hear :) 20:00 nice 20:00 I've tried to follow development, but as warned haven't had much time except for throwing some e-mails back and forth 20:01 thats fine, we knew your time was limited ajalkane 20:03 popey: i'd like to know it there is problem about executing another process for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1202472 ? 20:03 it has been some discussion about platform will not allow it. 20:03 will not allow one app to spawn another? 20:04 yes, that is my question 20:04 Yes, there's been discussion in mailing list that the apps are being run in some sort of jail and invoking other apps is pretty restricted 20:05 so this week a lot of the developers are at a sprint on the Isle of Man.. and there has been some discussion about this 20:05 i believe as part of the url handler, this should be sorted 20:05 which I think should be done by the end of the month 20:05 mhall119: is that how you understand the url handler to help here? 20:06 Ok, but the consensus seems to be that QtProcess can't be used as such but some dedicated API will have to be used? 20:07 yeah, re-reading the irc communication, it looks like there will be an api for launching urls 20:07 perhaps app://terminal as well as url:// ... 20:08 in a similar way to xdg-open 20:08 OK, that means, we have to wait, right? 20:08 until the end of this month, yes 20:09 OK, thanks. 20:09 saviq is the developer working on it 20:10 on Nemo emulator and N9 device QProcess is allowed, I have made a small test app. 20:11 popey: yes, Qt.openUrlExternally should work by the end of August 20:11 so starting very soon, all apps will be "sandboxed" 20:11 thanks mhall119 20:11 this will have an impact on the file manager 20:11 it already works on the desktop, I think, just not on devices 20:12 yes on desktop openUrlExternally works. And we've used it I think 20:14 What's the timeline for a non-beta release that appears on either a dedicated device or some existing device? In relation how timeconsuming tasks we'd consider... 20:14 the "1.0" release is in sync with desktop, so end of October 20:15 on devices.. after that 20:15 Ok, so real soon now 20:15 yeah, time is getting short 20:16 Can you estimate if there's any other possible regressions in functionality except of application launching regarding File Manager coming` 20:16 ? 20:17 good question 20:17 my main concern is that the app isolation will hide the entire filesystem from the filemanager app 20:17 having not tested it yet, I dont know if that will be the case 20:17 That'd be major regression :P 20:17 somewhat, yes ☻ 20:18 I can only say that I hope the security guys are being known about such use case in some way. 20:21 it's a tricky one really. 20:21 I know, depending how flexible the security framework is 20:21 its hard to isolate every app and then give a blanket exception for a very powerful app like a filemanager 20:22 this stuff is landing very soon though, it wont be long before we see the effects 20:22 I'll be testing the very early images on devices as soon as I can 20:23 as will mhall119 ☻ 20:23 Waiting in dread what comes :) 20:23 hah 20:25 I'll let you know as soon as I know more. 20:25 any other things to discuss? 20:26 Not from my side 20:27 ok. thanks for being awesome as always guys! 20:27 thanks! 20:28 #endmeeting