== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: File Manager App, 25 Jul at 20:05 — 20:51 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2013/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2013-07-25-20.05.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==




== Vote results ==




== Action items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * mhall119 (33)
 * balloons (28)
 * iBelieve (24)
 * kenvandine (20)
 * CarlosMazieri___ (11)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 20:05 <mhall119> #startmeeting File Manager App

 20:05 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jul 25 20:05:52 2013 UTC.  The chair is mhall119. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 20:06 <CarlosMazieri___> I am

 20:06 <mhall119> Burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/ubuntu-filemanager-dev.html

 20:06 * balloons waves

 20:06 <mhall119> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-filemanager-development

 20:06 <mhall119> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app

 20:07 <mhall119> ok, kenvandine is already here

 20:07 * kenvandine waves

 20:07 <mhall119> so kenvandine has agreed to try and get the nemo folderlistmodel plugin into the Universe archive

 20:08 <mhall119> but there are some things that need to be done

 20:08 <mhall119> first off, he saw that there was some unused code/copies of code in the branch

 20:08 <mhall119> that needs to be cleaned up and removed

 20:08 <CarlosMazieri___> please point this out to me

 20:08 <mhall119> it also needs a COPYING file indicating the copyright license that upstream uses

 20:08 <mhall119> kenvandine: ^^

 20:09 <kenvandine> yeah, that's a little tricky though

 20:09 <kenvandine> upstream doesn't provide one... so a little weird

 20:09 <mhall119> kenvandine: is there maybe one blanket one for the whole nemo mobile project?

 20:09 <kenvandine> i'd rather we not add that actually

 20:09 <kenvandine> probably just didn't add it when they split it out

 20:10 <mhall119> ok

 20:10 <mhall119> we do need to update debian/copyright though, right?

 20:10 <kenvandine> yeah

 20:10 <kenvandine> i think it references qtlocation as the upstream name

 20:10 <kenvandine> there is folderlistmodel and nemo-folderlistmodel in the source tree

 20:11 <kenvandine> with what i assume are the same files

 20:11 <kenvandine> that could be cleaned up

 20:11 <mhall119> CarlosMazieri___: ^^ is that accurate?

 20:11 <kenvandine> lp:~ken-vandine/ubuntu-filemanager-app/plugin_cleanup/

 20:11 <kenvandine> i made a few tweaks there

 20:11 <CarlosMazieri___> yes, the nemo-folderlistmodel is the original and can be removed

 20:11 <kenvandine> fixed the .pro file and removed the hack in debian/rules that Mirv had added

 20:12 <mhall119> CarlosMazieri___: so if you can work on these things, it'll make the package more acceptable to go into Universe

 20:12 <mhall119> and once we do that, we can see what needs to be done to make it part of the base system for other apps to use

 20:13 <CarlosMazieri___> that is OK, I kept the original just to have comparing.

 20:13 <mhall119> this is important because we want to make the Core Apps use the new Click packaging, which doesn't let you specify dependencies on other packages, just the base system

 20:14 <kenvandine> ideally we'd prefer to see the changes merged back upstream and then package a proper release of that

 20:14 <kenvandine> but that isn't always doable

 20:15 <mhall119> CarlosMazieri___: has there been any progress on getting your changes accepted into upstream's git repo?

 20:15 <CarlosMazieri___> No, nothing so far

 20:16 <mhall119> ok

 20:16 <kenvandine> they do have it split into it's own git repo now

 20:16 <CarlosMazieri___> Maybe we need to contact them and ask

 20:17 <mhall119> kenvandine: it looks like it

 20:17 <mhall119> kenvandine: to be honest, I had a hard time finding their project structure and what was official repos, etc

 20:17 <kenvandine> there is a link to it in debian/copyright

 20:18 <mhall119> kenvandine: of the nemo plugin?

 20:19 <kenvandine> yeah

 20:19 * balloons has a question whenever your ready

 20:19 <kenvandine> Source: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-folderlistmodel

 20:20 <mhall119> kenvandine: ok, I'll try and get in touch with this rburchell

 20:20 <kenvandine> thx

 20:21 <mhall119> ok balloons, your turn

 20:23 <balloons> elopio noticed the lastest trunk changes have the toolbar always showing and was wondering if this was intended or not

 20:24 <mhall119> I thought that had been there for a while

 20:24 <iBelieve> balloons, we're waiting for a better way to go back/up from the design team (I'll get the bug in a sec)

 20:25 <iBelieve> balloons, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1198861

 20:25 <balloons> Also a couple other quick things. it looks like the copy/paste issue has a proper bug now and can be solved, ty CarlosMazieri___ . That should be the last AP test. Secondly I've been work with elopio on the ubuntu sdk emulator, and it's finally in the sdk now and ready for more use.. You'll see an announcement hopefully today about it ;-)

 20:26 <balloons> iBelieve, ty

 20:26 <iBelieve> balloons, but now with all the new features, we should probably add more autopilot tests?

 20:27 <balloons> iBelieve, yes, that's the other bit.. The original list covered the original features.. what's new that needs to be tested? Feel free to open some bugs and keep on top of tests as you add features

 20:27 <balloons> I know Michael will be all over getting them added :-p

 20:28 <iBelieve> balloons, the settings menu, and going to a manually-entered place, and probably more once I add more features :)

 20:28 <iBelieve> balloons, should I also add them to the blueprint?

 20:28 <balloons> there will also be a little conversion work perhaps in adopting the official sdk emulator.. I don't believe the current tests utilize my +junk sdk emulator

 20:28 <balloons> iBelieve, yea, please do so..

 20:29 <balloons> that will help make sure we know what all is needed and it better reflects the work

 20:29 <iBelieve> balloons, and target them for this month (4, I think)?

 20:29 <balloons> For August, yes

 20:29 <balloons> :-)

 20:30 <balloons> or are you a speed racer and can get them done in July ?

 20:30 <balloons> :-p

 20:30 <iBelieve> balloons, nope, I'll be on vacation for the rest of the month, so I won't get any done

 20:30 <balloons> hehe.. yea, target them out to August.. and perhaps someone will snag one from you anyway

 20:31 <iBelieve> balloons, what level of importance should I give the bugs? Low, Medium, High???

 20:31 <balloons> I usually don't assign a level, but i've seen people use low and medium for them depending..

 20:31 <balloons> I wouldn't expect it to ever be high unless it was showstopping

 20:32 <iBelieve> balloons, I like all the bugs to be neatly organized, so I'll mark them as low.

 20:32 <balloons> perfect

 20:33 <balloons> hmm one other things

 20:34 <balloons> are all the dependencies listed in the debian/control file for filemanager?

 20:34 <balloons> I'm speaking in regards to solving this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1202348

 20:36 <iBelieve> balloons, have you seen my comments on that? It looks like the problem is that the testing system needs an .Xauthority file, but because File Manager tests create a fake home, they don't have an .Xauthority file. Don't know how to test that idea, though.

 20:36 <iBelieve> balloons, I'm not familiar enough with autopilot to know how it works, though.

 20:37 <balloons> iBelieve, I saw the comment, I just want to rule out any other issues

 20:38 <balloons> if it's an X thing, well it might be more tricky

 20:38 <balloons> often though, we end up with improper dependencies on these, so it's the first thing I ask

 20:38 <balloons> :-)

 20:39 <balloons> so mhall119 that's it from me.. A little more than 1 question I guess :-p

 20:39 <mhall119> that's okay :)

 20:39 <iBelieve> balloons, maybe this would affect it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1204768

 20:39 <balloons> iBelieve, yes, stuff like that

 20:39 <mhall119> CarlosMazieri___: iBelieve: anything else you wanted to bring up in this meeting?

 20:40 <balloons> I haven't looked at your control file, but make sure your not missig anything

 20:40 <iBelieve> mhall119, yes.

 20:40 <iBelieve> CarlosMazieri___, does the backend have support for getting icons from the current theme and based on file type?

 20:40 <CarlosMazieri___> No, it is all right

 20:41 <iBelieve> CarlosMazieri___, I looked through the source and saw some stuff that made it look like it, but I wasn't sure.

 20:41 <CarlosMazieri___> YES, it has support but is disabled and needs integration with QML

 20:42 <CarlosMazieri___> in the branch there is a simple C++ UI which already uses that

 20:43 <iBelieve> CarlosMazieri___, so I'll file a bug in the app about using icons from the theme.

 20:43 <CarlosMazieri___> Is there theme already available in Ubuntu Touch ?

 20:44 <iBelieve> CarlosMazieri___, ubuntu-mobile, but it doesn't have file icons.

 20:44 <iBelieve> So, I posted on ubuntu-discourse about any feature requests or comments about the app, and people were saying that the Humanity theme doesn't look good with the dark Suru background that the app will get. Any thoughts on this?

 20:44 <mhall119> CarlosMazieri___: I don't think there is an icon theme for files and folders, no

 20:44 <mhall119> not specifically for mobile anyway

 20:44 <iBelieve> people were suggesting Faenza or Faience, both of which I think look nice.

 20:44 <mhall119> using the default ones from the desktop would be best, IMO

 20:46 <iBelieve> What should I do about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1202469 and how or where I should put advanced features?

 20:47 <iBelieve> I think last time we were talking about using the HUD but I don't know how it works on the phone or what the intended usage of it is.

 20:47 <iBelieve> popey suggested I talk to timp about the bug, but I haven't had time yet.

 20:48 <iBelieve> I was wanting to work on a UI for opening the current folder in the terminal and filtering files by regex, but until that bug gets fixed (or we have a better solution), I can't.

 20:49 <mhall119> alrighty guys, anything more before I wrap up this meeting?

 20:50 <CarlosMazieri___> No, that is all right

 20:50 <iBelieve> mhall119, nothing else from me

 20:51 <mhall119> #endmeeting



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