20:05 <mhall119> #startmeeting File Manager App
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20:06 <CarlosMazieri___> I am
20:06 <mhall119> Burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/ubuntu-filemanager-dev.html
20:06 * balloons waves
20:06 <mhall119> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-filemanager-development
20:06 <mhall119> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app
20:07 <mhall119> ok, kenvandine is already here
20:07 * kenvandine waves
20:07 <mhall119> so kenvandine has agreed to try and get the nemo folderlistmodel plugin into the Universe archive
20:08 <mhall119> but there are some things that need to be done
20:08 <mhall119> first off, he saw that there was some unused code/copies of code in the branch
20:08 <mhall119> that needs to be cleaned up and removed
20:08 <CarlosMazieri___> please point this out to me
20:08 <mhall119> it also needs a COPYING file indicating the copyright license that upstream uses
20:08 <mhall119> kenvandine: ^^
20:09 <kenvandine> yeah, that's a little tricky though
20:09 <kenvandine> upstream doesn't provide one... so a little weird
20:09 <mhall119> kenvandine: is there maybe one blanket one for the whole nemo mobile project?
20:09 <kenvandine> i'd rather we not add that actually
20:09 <kenvandine> probably just didn't add it when they split it out
20:10 <mhall119> ok
20:10 <mhall119> we do need to update debian/copyright though, right?
20:10 <kenvandine> yeah
20:10 <kenvandine> i think it references qtlocation as the upstream name
20:10 <kenvandine> there is folderlistmodel and nemo-folderlistmodel in the source tree
20:11 <kenvandine> with what i assume are the same files
20:11 <kenvandine> that could be cleaned up
20:11 <mhall119> CarlosMazieri___: ^^ is that accurate?
20:11 <kenvandine> lp:~ken-vandine/ubuntu-filemanager-app/plugin_cleanup/
20:11 <kenvandine> i made a few tweaks there
20:11 <CarlosMazieri___> yes, the nemo-folderlistmodel is the original and can be removed
20:11 <kenvandine> fixed the .pro file and removed the hack in debian/rules that Mirv had added
20:12 <mhall119> CarlosMazieri___: so if you can work on these things, it'll make the package more acceptable to go into Universe
20:12 <mhall119> and once we do that, we can see what needs to be done to make it part of the base system for other apps to use
20:13 <CarlosMazieri___> that is OK, I kept the original just to have comparing.
20:13 <mhall119> this is important because we want to make the Core Apps use the new Click packaging, which doesn't let you specify dependencies on other packages, just the base system
20:14 <kenvandine> ideally we'd prefer to see the changes merged back upstream and then package a proper release of that
20:14 <kenvandine> but that isn't always doable
20:15 <mhall119> CarlosMazieri___: has there been any progress on getting your changes accepted into upstream's git repo?
20:15 <CarlosMazieri___> No, nothing so far
20:16 <mhall119> ok
20:16 <kenvandine> they do have it split into it's own git repo now
20:16 <CarlosMazieri___> Maybe we need to contact them and ask
20:17 <mhall119> kenvandine: it looks like it
20:17 <mhall119> kenvandine: to be honest, I had a hard time finding their project structure and what was official repos, etc
20:17 <kenvandine> there is a link to it in debian/copyright
20:18 <mhall119> kenvandine: of the nemo plugin?
20:19 <kenvandine> yeah
20:19 * balloons has a question whenever your ready
20:19 <kenvandine> Source: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plugin-folderlistmodel
20:20 <mhall119> kenvandine: ok, I'll try and get in touch with this rburchell
20:20 <kenvandine> thx
20:21 <mhall119> ok balloons, your turn
20:23 <balloons> elopio noticed the lastest trunk changes have the toolbar always showing and was wondering if this was intended or not
20:24 <mhall119> I thought that had been there for a while
20:24 <iBelieve> balloons, we're waiting for a better way to go back/up from the design team (I'll get the bug in a sec)
20:25 <iBelieve> balloons, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1198861
20:25 <balloons> Also a couple other quick things. it looks like the copy/paste issue has a proper bug now and can be solved, ty CarlosMazieri___ . That should be the last AP test. Secondly I've been work with elopio on the ubuntu sdk emulator, and it's finally in the sdk now and ready for more use.. You'll see an announcement hopefully today about it ;-)
20:26 <balloons> iBelieve, ty
20:26 <iBelieve> balloons, but now with all the new features, we should probably add more autopilot tests?
20:27 <balloons> iBelieve, yes, that's the other bit.. The original list covered the original features.. what's new that needs to be tested? Feel free to open some bugs and keep on top of tests as you add features
20:27 <balloons> I know Michael will be all over getting them added :-p
20:28 <iBelieve> balloons, the settings menu, and going to a manually-entered place, and probably more once I add more features :)
20:28 <iBelieve> balloons, should I also add them to the blueprint?
20:28 <balloons> there will also be a little conversion work perhaps in adopting the official sdk emulator.. I don't believe the current tests utilize my +junk sdk emulator
20:28 <balloons> iBelieve, yea, please do so..
20:29 <balloons> that will help make sure we know what all is needed and it better reflects the work
20:29 <iBelieve> balloons, and target them for this month (4, I think)?
20:29 <balloons> For August, yes
20:29 <balloons> :-)
20:30 <balloons> or are you a speed racer and can get them done in July ?
20:30 <balloons> :-p
20:30 <iBelieve> balloons, nope, I'll be on vacation for the rest of the month, so I won't get any done
20:30 <balloons> hehe.. yea, target them out to August.. and perhaps someone will snag one from you anyway
20:31 <iBelieve> balloons, what level of importance should I give the bugs? Low, Medium, High???
20:31 <balloons> I usually don't assign a level, but i've seen people use low and medium for them depending..
20:31 <balloons> I wouldn't expect it to ever be high unless it was showstopping
20:32 <iBelieve> balloons, I like all the bugs to be neatly organized, so I'll mark them as low.
20:32 <balloons> perfect
20:33 <balloons> hmm one other things
20:34 <balloons> are all the dependencies listed in the debian/control file for filemanager?
20:34 <balloons> I'm speaking in regards to solving this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1202348
20:36 <iBelieve> balloons, have you seen my comments on that? It looks like the problem is that the testing system needs an .Xauthority file, but because File Manager tests create a fake home, they don't have an .Xauthority file. Don't know how to test that idea, though.
20:36 <iBelieve> balloons, I'm not familiar enough with autopilot to know how it works, though.
20:37 <balloons> iBelieve, I saw the comment, I just want to rule out any other issues
20:38 <balloons> if it's an X thing, well it might be more tricky
20:38 <balloons> often though, we end up with improper dependencies on these, so it's the first thing I ask
20:38 <balloons> :-)
20:39 <balloons> so mhall119 that's it from me.. A little more than 1 question I guess :-p
20:39 <mhall119> that's okay :)
20:39 <iBelieve> balloons, maybe this would affect it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1204768
20:39 <balloons> iBelieve, yes, stuff like that
20:39 <mhall119> CarlosMazieri___: iBelieve: anything else you wanted to bring up in this meeting?
20:40 <balloons> I haven't looked at your control file, but make sure your not missig anything
20:40 <iBelieve> mhall119, yes.
20:40 <iBelieve> CarlosMazieri___, does the backend have support for getting icons from the current theme and based on file type?
20:40 <CarlosMazieri___> No, it is all right
20:41 <iBelieve> CarlosMazieri___, I looked through the source and saw some stuff that made it look like it, but I wasn't sure.
20:41 <CarlosMazieri___> YES, it has support but is disabled and needs integration with QML
20:42 <CarlosMazieri___> in the branch there is a simple C++ UI which already uses that
20:43 <iBelieve> CarlosMazieri___, so I'll file a bug in the app about using icons from the theme.
20:43 <CarlosMazieri___> Is there theme already available in Ubuntu Touch ?
20:44 <iBelieve> CarlosMazieri___, ubuntu-mobile, but it doesn't have file icons.
20:44 <iBelieve> So, I posted on ubuntu-discourse about any feature requests or comments about the app, and people were saying that the Humanity theme doesn't look good with the dark Suru background that the app will get. Any thoughts on this?
20:44 <mhall119> CarlosMazieri___: I don't think there is an icon theme for files and folders, no
20:44 <mhall119> not specifically for mobile anyway
20:44 <iBelieve> people were suggesting Faenza or Faience, both of which I think look nice.
20:44 <mhall119> using the default ones from the desktop would be best, IMO
20:46 <iBelieve> What should I do about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1202469 and how or where I should put advanced features?
20:47 <iBelieve> I think last time we were talking about using the HUD but I don't know how it works on the phone or what the intended usage of it is.
20:47 <iBelieve> popey suggested I talk to timp about the bug, but I haven't had time yet.
20:48 <iBelieve> I was wanting to work on a UI for opening the current folder in the terminal and filtering files by regex, but until that bug gets fixed (or we have a better solution), I can't.
20:49 <mhall119> alrighty guys, anything more before I wrap up this meeting?
20:50 <CarlosMazieri___> No, that is all right
20:50 <iBelieve> mhall119, nothing else from me
20:51 <mhall119> #endmeeting