== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Ubuntu Touch App Sudoku meeting, 03 Jul at 16:33 — 16:59 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2013/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2013-07-03-16.33.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==




== Vote results ==




== Action items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * popey (35)
 * fredoust (27)
 * balloons (17)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 16:33 <popey> #startmeeting Ubuntu Touch App Sudoku meeting

 16:33 <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Jul  3 16:33:38 2013 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 16:34 <fredoust> dinko isn't here

 16:34 <popey> blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/sudokotouch-coreapps-development

 16:35 <popey> bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/stock-ticker-mobile-app

 16:35 <popey> oops

 16:35 <popey> bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/sudoku-app

 16:35 <popey> ☻

 16:35 <fredoust> better :p

 16:35 <popey> reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/sudoku-app/+activereviews

 16:36 <popey> burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/

 16:36 <popey> hows it going fredoust ?

 16:36 <fredoust> I was fixing some bugs

 16:37 <popey> yeah, i saw.

 16:37 <popey> great ☻

 16:37 <popey> I enjoyed playing the game on the train, and it was a very useful exercise to focus on the app

 16:37 <popey> also, fun

 16:37 <fredoust> cool

 16:37 <popey> any of the bugs not make sense?

 16:38 <fredoust> I doesn't have device so I didn't play a real party

 16:38 <fredoust> no all of them are almost fixed I think

 16:39 <popey> Great!

 16:39 <fredoust> sorry for my bad merging

 16:39 <fredoust> do I have to create a branch for all bugs ?

 16:40 <fredoust> even if it is a little bug ?

 16:40 <popey> yes. ☻

 16:40 <popey> There's a good reason for this.

 16:40 <popey> We have autolanding / CI setup

 16:40 <fredoust> ok

 16:40 <popey> so as you propose it gets tested before it actually lands

 16:41 <popey> so even if it's a small bug fix, it could potentially break something, and our tests (cue balloons) should discover that

 16:41 <fredoust> ok I just fixed the bug 1196468 "Incorrect buttons don't fix themselves" so I hope I will do a perfect merge

 16:41 <fredoust> ok I understand

 16:42 <balloons> indeed.. autopilot tests are now part of autolanding.. But we need to get some written for this app :-)

 16:42 <balloons> You may have seen me announcing several workshops towards this.. I also highlighted sudoku as a core app ready for testing

 16:42 <fredoust> yes I read the discussion between dinko and you last time but I don't understand everything I thought Dinko wrote them

 16:43 <balloons> Dinko was going to look at them; we

 16:43 <balloons> we'll keep pushing towards adding more tests to help ensure we don't have regressions and the bugs you've fixed stay fixed :-)

 16:44 <fredoust> ok

 16:45 <fredoust> can I see an example of autopilot test ?

 16:45 <balloons> sure.. would you like to run one?

 16:45 <fredoust> yes it would be great

 16:49 * popey wonders if balloons is looking for one?

 16:49 <balloons> yes, lol, sorry

 16:50 <balloons> fredoust, bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-clock-app

 16:50 <balloons> since I highlighted clock today, let's have you just run one of those ;-)

 16:50 <balloons> cd ubuntu-clock-app/tests/autopilot

 16:51 <balloons> now a 2 min tutorial for autopilot, though I happily recommend coming out to the workshop if your curious: http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2013/07/automated-testing-workshops.html

 16:51 <balloons> autopilot list ubuntu_clock_app lists the tests

 16:51 <balloons> I see 2 at the moment

 16:52 <balloons> next, autopilot run ubuntu_clock_app will run them

 16:52 <balloons> you'll see the app is launched once for each test, the test is run, then you should get feedback on pass or fail :-)

 16:52 <fredoust> ls

 16:52 <fredoust> oups

 16:53 <balloons> fredoust, if your curious how they are put together and work have a look at http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/cookbook/mobile/how-to-write-autopilot-tests/

 16:53 <balloons> that's enough derailing for now I think :-)

 16:53 <fredoust> yes I will read this

 16:53 <balloons> ping me anytime with questions.. like anything there's a learning curve, but you'll get it!

 16:53 <popey> Thanks balloons

 16:54 <fredoust> ok thanks

 16:54 <popey> Another piece of information for you before we wrap up

 16:54 <fredoust> I see test_clock.py and test_stopwatch.py

 16:55 <popey> Over the next few days we are going to start pushing people to be testing these apps more on a regular basis as part of their daily routine.

 16:55 <popey> "dogfooding"

 16:55 <popey> as part of that we will likely be filing a bunch of bugs over the next two weeks. I just wanted you to have a pre-warning

 16:55 <popey> because you're likely to get a bunch of bugs and you may wonder where they're all coming from ☻

 16:56 <fredoust> lol ok

 16:56 <popey> We will also be adding some work items to the blueprint.

 16:56 <popey> These will be ones which are higher priority to ensure the app is robust, well tested, reliable..

 16:57 <popey> We're keen for people to feel like the app is something they can trust.

 16:57 <fredoust> ok

 16:57 <fredoust> of course

 16:57 <popey> Ok, we're almost out of time. Did you have any questions / issues?

 16:58 <fredoust> no it's ok for me

 16:58 <popey> ok. great! Thanks for taking care of the bug reports

 16:58 <popey> and if you get stuck with autopilot, balloons is your man!

 16:58 <fredoust> ok perfect

 16:58 <fredoust> thanks both of you

 16:58 <popey> thanks !

 16:59 <popey> #endmeeting



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