20:01 <popey> #startmeeting Ubuntu Touch File Manager App meeting
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20:02 <popey> blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-filemanager-development
20:02 <popey> bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bugs
20:02 <popey> reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+activereviews
20:02 <popey> burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/
20:02 <popey> how are things?
20:03 <CarlosMazieri> Good
20:03 <ajalkane> Aye... I'm just keeping eye on things. If there's bugs or small things I'll try to do something for them.
20:04 <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1190676 is interesting.. we don't poll for changes
20:05 <ajalkane> Yeah the plugin does not currently listen for changes in directory, right Carlos?
20:05 <CarlosMazieri> Does not,
20:05 <CarlosMazieri> For this, we need to put a watcher and change some other things
20:06 <CarlosMazieri> Do you think we need to implement that for 1.0 release ?
20:06 <ajalkane> This is IMO a "nice to have" feature, but not urgent. So prioritizing needed.
20:07 <CarlosMazieri> I have not played with FileSystemWatcher yet, so need to know it works
20:08 <ajalkane> This could be also solved, in the "least amount of work" way by having a "refresh" button in toolbar. As a temporary solution.
20:08 <CarlosMazieri> AJalkane: Are you following changes made by Music App guys?
20:08 <ajalkane> CarlosMazieri: I only glanced through the code
20:09 <ajalkane> Figured you'd have better understanding how the changes fit into what you've been doing
20:09 <popey> I dont think its a priority tbh
20:10 * popey changes the bug to low
20:11 <popey> so current outstanding tasks are all autopilot related
20:13 <ajalkane> Right... I'm not familiar with autopilot, but I can probably do some of those tests. Doubt I have time for all of them
20:13 <popey> that would be great.
20:14 <popey> do you want me to dig out some docs?
20:14 <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing/Autopilot should help
20:14 <CarlosMazieri> is there any UI test example?
20:15 <popey> some of the other projects have some basic tests already
20:15 <ajalkane> Ok thanks, I'll start from there and ask next week if I need more
20:15 <popey> let me find one
20:15 <popey> clock app
20:16 <CarlosMazieri> OK
20:16 <popey> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/trunk/files/head:/tests/autopilot/ubuntu_clock_app/tests/
20:17 <ajalkane> Thanks, I'll read up on those
20:18 <ajalkane> I did manage to run the existing skeleton autopilot tests, so that's a good start to do something...
20:18 <CarlosMazieri> Ajalkane:  so far no answer from Nemo guys about accepting our changes
20:19 <ajalkane> CarlosMazieri: They can be slow as the same guys are mostly same guys working on Jolla.
20:19 <popey> are the sailfish guys also using nemo?
20:20 <ajalkane> These changes are much bigger than my changes, and even with my changes it took weeks before they had time to review them
20:20 <ajalkane> popey: yes, Sailfish uses much of Nemo middleware
20:20 <CarlosMazieri> OK, I think they sailfish and nemo share some code
20:22 <popey> ok
20:23 <popey> anything else i can help with?
20:24 <CarlosMazieri> It is all right
20:24 <ajalkane> Not for me... I'm mostly waiting for some UI guidelines when they stabilize, so that FileManager can adhere to them
20:25 <ajalkane> Meanwhile I will try to do some of the autopilot tests
20:25 <popey> have you seen the revised calculator designs?
20:25 <ajalkane> Nope
20:25 <popey> one moment, let me get a link..
20:25 <ajalkane> I've seen some videos, but might be old
20:25 <popey> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50603128/calculator_design_notes.pdf
20:27 <ajalkane> Right... I don't understand that doc much in relation to FileManager :-D. For what I understand, FileManager should be ok as it uses only the Ubuntu touch components which should provide the theme as specified there
20:27 <popey> indeed
20:27 <popey> it was more so you can see where we're going
20:28 <ajalkane> Looks good indeed
20:28 <popey> and you're right, the SDK guys are working on bringing the UI in line with those designs
20:29 <ajalkane> I've watched some preview videos of Ubuntu touch, and it looks exciting :)
20:29 <popey> feel free to ping myself or balloons (Nick Skaggs) on irc if you get any autopilot questions.
20:29 <ajalkane> Thanks
20:30 <popey> ok, lets wrap then. thanks guys!
20:30 <ajalkane> Keep up the good work sires so that we can have a great Linux based mobile OS!
20:30 <CarlosMazieri> Thanks
20:30 <balloons> ajalkane, hey, we're working on your files app right now
20:31 <balloons> care to join us in #ubuntu-quality for just a moment?
20:31 <popey> oh, look balloons is right here, sorry, didnt realise you were ☻
20:31 <popey> #endmeeting