== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: File Manager App, 06 Jun at 20:05 — 20:26 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2013/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2013-06-06-20.05.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==




== Vote results ==




== Action items ==

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== People present (lines said) ==

 * mhall119 (38)
 * CarlosMazieri (20)
 * balloons (13)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 20:05 <mhall119> #startmeeting File Manager App

 20:05 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun  6 20:05:20 2013 UTC.  The chair is mhall119. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 20:05 <CarlosMazieri> hello

 20:05 <mhall119> CarlosMazieri: first of all, I wanted to say thank you for helping the music app developers out

 20:05 <CarlosMazieri> OK, they are welcome

 20:06 <mhall119> it's good to know that your nemo plugin is being used by other teams too

 20:06 <CarlosMazieri> Yea,

 20:06 <mhall119> alrighty, let me post our links

 20:06 <mhall119> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app

 20:07 <mhall119> none open, good

 20:07 <mhall119> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-filemanager-development

 20:07 <mhall119> and Burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/ubuntu-filemanager-dev-coreapps-13.10-month-2.html

 20:07 <mhall119> so, just a followup from me real quick

 20:07 <mhall119> I was just talking to loicm and ricmm in #ubuntu-touch about implementing the Platform API necessary for the file manager to open files in other apps

 20:08 <mhall119> so that calling Qt.openUrlExternally will use the proper apps

 20:08 <CarlosMazieri> OK, I think that they will implement something like Desktop Services, right ?

 20:08 <mhall119> and it looks like that's going to be worked on

 20:08 <mhall119> yup

 20:08 <CarlosMazieri> ok

 20:09 <mhall119> also, congrats to you guys, the File Manager is now part of the daily device images!

 20:09 <CarlosMazieri> yea,  I asked the guys from Nemo on github to upstream

 20:09 <balloons> +1 ^^

 20:09 <CarlosMazieri> but no answer so far

 20:10 <mhall119> do you know the correct person to talk to?  I'll shoot them an email to try and help things along

 20:10 <CarlosMazieri> No, I followed Arto instructions only

 20:11 <mhall119> ok, can you forward me his instructions?  I don't think I got them

 20:11 <CarlosMazieri> It is like a merge proposal, someone should accept or not

 20:13 <CarlosMazieri> OK, I can do it later, I am at work now

 20:14 <mhall119> ok, thanks

 20:14 <mhall119> alright, next up, balloons and I are identifying individual features that need Autopilot test cases for each of the core apps

 20:14 <mhall119> I've started a list of them for file manager here: http://pad.ubuntu.com/rHMaCpyJ2y

 20:15 <mhall119> can you see that?

 20:15 <CarlosMazieri> yes, i can

 20:16 <mhall119> so I wasn't sure if we need Autopilot tests for each of the actions, like copy/cut/delete/rename

 20:16 <mhall119> balloons: what do you think about that?

 20:16 <mhall119> or is it just enough to make sure they're in the context menu

 20:17 <CarlosMazieri> I think that is OK,

 20:17 <CarlosMazieri> we have time to do all them, that will be great

 20:18 <mhall119> balloons: and using autopilot, how would we make sure the tests didn't mess with files we didn't want messed with?

 20:18 <mhall119> and that things were restored to their original state when the tests were done

 20:19 <CarlosMazieri> I do not know about autopilot, every single test must create stuff it needs and then clear

 20:19 <mhall119> the python test script could make some in /tmp/ and then point the file manager there

 20:20 <mhall119> it would at least keep it from messing with the user's files

 20:20 <mhall119> balloons: ?

 20:20 <CarlosMazieri> yea, that is the way the C++ regression tests for file manager does

 20:21 <balloons> sorry..

 20:21 * balloons reads scrollback

 20:21 <balloons> yes that's correct

 20:21 <balloons> the autopilot testcase (each one!) should be completely standalone

 20:22 <mhall119> ok, cool

 20:22 <CarlosMazieri> yea

 20:22 <balloons> so i can run them in any order

 20:22 <balloons> and yes, we package data with the app if needed

 20:22 <balloons> and/or we use /tmp for stuff we create on the fly

 20:22 <balloons> be sure to clean it up afterwards too

 20:22 <mhall119> cool

 20:23 <mhall119> so are you both happy with this list of test cases?

 20:23 <mhall119> anything to add/remove/modify?

 20:24 <CarlosMazieri> I do not think so

 20:24 <balloons> thanks CarlosMazieri and mhall119

 20:24 <balloons> btw CarlosMazieri we're having a hackfest next Thursday during this time in #ubuntu-quality. Come hang out and hack on the autopilot tests : ) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hackfest/20130613

 20:24 <CarlosMazieri> maybe cancel an operation

 20:24 <mhall119> I'm scheduling these all for the month-3 milestone, which is mid-July

 20:25 <mhall119> CarlosMazieri: we can always add more test cases as we go, or feel the need for them when you're implementing another

 20:25 <mhall119> this list is mostly just so we can track the progress of things

 20:25 <CarlosMazieri> ok

 20:25 <balloons> right.. we want/need a good initial list

 20:25 <balloons> we'll add as we go..

 20:26 <mhall119> alright, any other questions or concerns that you have CarlosMazieri ?

 20:26 <CarlosMazieri> No, that is all right

 20:26 <mhall119> cool, thanks

 20:26 <mhall119> #endmeeting



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