19:04 <mhall119> #startmeeting RSS Reader
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19:04 <mrqtros> It's RSS Reader time!
19:04 <mhall119> first some links
19:04 <mhall119> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rssreader-app
19:05 <mhall119> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-rssreader-development
19:05 <mhall119> Burndown chart: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/ubuntu-rssreader-dev.html
19:05 <mhall119> if you aren't familiar with the burndown charts, they track the progress of the work items in our blueprint
19:06 <mrqtros> My bug will become deprecated after our jump to new database core
19:06 <mhall119> and show both what we've done, but also whether or not we're on track to finish my our target (October 15, in our case)
19:06 <mhall119> mrqtros: #1176514 "Update" command works wrong ?
19:06 <mrqtros> yep
19:07 <mhall119> great
19:07 <mhall119> so, we're into the month-2 milestone cycle now, but we don't have any work items assigned to it
19:07 <mhall119> we also still have a bunch of TODO and INPROGRESS work items from the month-1 milestone
19:07 <mhall119> so let's go over them first
19:07 <mhall119> [popey] Create a test plan: TODO
19:08 <popey> hmm
19:08 <mrqtros> Because we awaiting a long time for UI design
19:08 <mhall119> popey: I know you had this as a generic for all the projects
19:08 <popey> yeah
19:08 <mhall119> so the plan really is to write Autopilot tests
19:08 <mhall119> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing/Autopilot is the documentation for that
19:09 <popey> which omer has been helping with i believe?
19:09 <mhall119> if you're not familiar, Autopilot is a tool for testing UIs and user interactions
19:09 <mhall119> it's like unit testing, but you're actually interacting with the UI instead of just code
19:10 <mhall119> and we're going to need them in order to get the RSS Reader accepted into the daily device images
19:10 <mrqtros> Ok, someone will pick this task
19:11 <mhall119> any volunteers?
19:11 <mrqtros> Mb need to create new item in blueprints called "Create Autopilot tests"
19:11 <dragly> I can create some tests
19:11 <mhall119> mrqtros: already doing that :)
19:11 <mrqtros> Cool
19:11 <dragly> But it will have to wait till after June 10
19:11 <dragly> After that I will be done with my exams ;)
19:11 <dragly> If that is ok?
19:11 <mhall119> that's fine, the UI is going to be changing anyway
19:12 <mrqtros> I have very hot time too - working on my graduate project :(
19:12 <mhall119> not much point in writing tests for a UI we're replacing
19:12 <mhall119> next up
19:12 <mhall119> [mrqtros] View to manage feeds (add, modify, delete): INPROGRESS
19:12 <dragly> Great. I will start playing around with Autopilot in the meantime.
19:13 <mhall119> mrqtros: any upate on that?
19:13 <mrqtros> mhall119: I need correct design)
19:14 <mrqtros> My first version working good with old database, it can be easily ported to new, but
19:14 <mhall119> do we have those designs now, with what the design team posted?
19:14 <mrqtros> Lisette still working under our design, am I right?)
19:14 <mhall119> Lisette?
19:15 <mrqtros> Yeah, from designers team
19:15 <mhall119> I'm not sure, I haven't been in the design meetings
19:16 <mhall119> is the backend logic there for managing feeds?
19:16 <popey> correct Lisette
19:16 <mrqtros> Believe me then )
19:16 <mhall119> as long as the backend code is there, I'm happy to mark these work items as DONE
19:17 <dragly> There is a post about the RSS reader design here: http://design.canonical.com/2013/05/shorts-rss-reader-app/
19:17 <dragly> I think Joey Chan is finishing up the database logic currently, so the backend code will have to be tied to that eventually.
19:18 <mrqtros> Thx dragly, I tried to post this url too, but didn't find it)
19:18 <mhall119> ok
19:18 <dragly> But the current version in the repo is finished in terms of that item, in my opinion.
19:18 <mhall119> ok
19:18 <dragly> We will just have to port everything to the new database when it is ready.
19:19 <dragly> So perhaps that could be a new item?
19:19 <dragly> "Port view to manage feeds to the new database backend", or something similar
19:19 <mhall119> for porting to the new database?
19:19 <mhall119> ok
19:20 <mhall119> next:
19:20 <mhall119> [nejc-pintar] Add "read later" tag: TODO
19:20 <mrqtros> it's something extremely easy in new DB design, I think )
19:21 <mrqtros> toolbar button or context menu
19:21 <dragly> Yes. Although it is still on the TODO-list
19:21 <mhall119> ok
19:22 <mrqtros> and binded to nejc, but he is out of development, am I right?
19:22 <mhall119> [dragly] Main landing view (today's articles or feed of choice): TODO
19:24 <dragly> I would say INPROGRESS on that. Joey just mailed us an image showing an implementation of Lisette's design.
19:24 <dragly> Although it's more Joey working on it than me currently ;)
19:24 <mrqtros> Michael, in my opinion we need some design guides, because I even don't know should I use context menu (popup) for "add, modif and delete" operations or toolbar buttons and so on
19:25 <mhall119> mrqtros: it would be nice, but I don't know when we'll get something generic like that
19:25 <popey> mrqtros: I'd recommend looking at some of the other apps, calendar, calculator, notepad for now.
19:25 <mhall119> I think the best thing is to ask design for advice, but implement it however you see fit until you get an answer
19:25 <popey> +1
19:25 <mhall119> dragly: should I assign the landing view work item to Joey then?
19:25 <popey> being consistent with the other apps is wise too
19:26 <mrqtros> Ok, good advice :)
19:26 <mhall119> alright, that's it for the month-1 work items
19:26 <dragly> mhall119: Yes, I think you could do that for the moment being.
19:27 <mhall119> dragly: done
19:27 <dragly> I can sign myself up for more to do when my exams are done.
19:27 <mhall119> in that case, let's not move any of the other Work Items up to month-2, we'll re-examine them later in June
19:28 <mhall119> one last thing, I've been setting release targets for alpha, beta and final releases for each of the Core Apps
19:28 <mrqtros> Ok guys, I will try to port my old version (with simple list of feeds like in Nokia N9 standard reader) to new database.
19:28 <mhall119> do you think it's reachable to have an alpha-quality build by mid-June?
19:29 <mhall119> we don't need all of the new design implemented for that, but at least a good start on it
19:29 <mhall119> and the new database
19:29 <mrqtros> Yes :) We can't make alpha now, but in June - I think yes!
19:29 <mhall119> ok
19:30 <mhall119> then how about beta in August, and final in September?
19:30 <dragly> I'll try to help as much as I can for the alpha, but might not have too much time
19:30 <mrqtros> deadline sometimes can be very helpful :)
19:30 <dragly> getting a beta ready for August should be doable, I think
19:31 <mhall119> cool
19:31 <mhall119> thanks guys
19:31 <mhall119> any other blockers or concerns that you have?
19:31 <mrqtros> u2
19:31 <mrqtros> I think no :)
19:31 <mhall119> alright, popey and I are always available if you need something
19:31 <dragly> I have investigated WebView and found it to be very lacking in the current version of QML
19:32 <mhall119> dragly: in what way?  I'm using it for my reddit app
19:32 <dragly> It might be my lacking ability to read the documentation, though :-)
19:32 <mhall119> I did find documentation hard to come by
19:32 <dragly> I'm missing the possibility to control the zoom and styling of the view
19:32 <mrqtros> programmer can't control nothing :)
19:32 <mhall119> ah yeah, it's kind of a walled garden
19:32 <mrqtros> yep :)
19:33 <dragly> it appears that an API for that was available in Qt 4.8, but I couldn't find anything for Qt 5.0
19:33 <mhall119> dragly: I'll find the link I used and send it to you
19:33 <dragly> that would be awesome! Thanks!
19:33 <mhall119> anything else before I end the meeting?
19:33 <mrqtros> share with me too ;)
19:33 <dragly> Not that I can think of.
19:33 <mrqtros> yep
19:34 <mhall119> #endmeeting