== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Ubuntu Touch Calculator app meeting, 30 May at 17:03 — 17:31 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2013/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2013-05-30-17.03.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==




== Vote results ==




== Action items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * popey (42)
 * daliusd (32)
 * dpm (14)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 17:03 <popey> #startmeeting Ubuntu Touch Calculator app meeting

 17:03 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu May 30 17:03:12 2013 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 17:03 <popey> Who's here for the meeting?

 17:03 * daliusd jumps

 17:04 <popey> ☻

 17:04 <popey> so, the usual links..

 17:04 <popey> blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-calculator-development

 17:04 <popey> bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bugs

 17:04 <popey> reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+activereviews

 17:05 <popey> how are things going?

 17:05 <daliusd> OK

 17:05 <daliusd> Riccardo took one bug he could fix

 17:06 <daliusd> but it is silent from his side

 17:06 <daliusd> dpm, triaged one defect - not sure what to do with it

 17:06 <daliusd> and we don't have anymore defects

 17:06 * dpm looks at Launchpad

 17:06 <daliusd> autopilots had problems but are fixed (at least I see just one failure now)

 17:06 <popey> there's the slow time on nexus 7 issue

 17:07 <popey> and in fact it is slow on the nexus 4 too

 17:07 <popey> it sometimes stalls during stopwatch and then "catches up"

 17:07 <daliusd> em calculator meeting here :)

 17:07 <popey> oh, wrong app

 17:07 <popey> duhhh

 17:07 * popey gets more coffee

 17:07 * popey reboots

 17:07 <daliusd> :D

 17:07 * dpm hugs popey :)

 17:07 <popey> ☻

 17:08 <popey> wondered why I couldn't see the bug in the list ㋛

 17:08 <dpm> daliusd, ah, I can take care of that bug, it's just a minor issue with i18n

 17:08 <daliusd> dpm, thanks :)

 17:08 <popey> dpm: did we talk about i18n with regards to chinese use?

 17:08 <popey> (at meetings when i wasn't here)

 17:09 <daliusd> design team last week showed some initial design

 17:09 <daliusd> I believe that's it

 17:09 <dpm> popey, no, we didn't, but basically I've been internationalizing all core app's and Bill's apps guys have been taking care of the rest

 17:09 <dpm> and I'm organizing the community translations

 17:10 <popey> As I understand it there are people in China who would like to demonstrate the apps to people over there.

 17:10 <popey> Which is of course easier if it's all in simplified chinese

 17:10 <dpm> daliusd, looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app nearly all of them are "Fix committed". It might be worth  going through the ones that should be "Fix released" and change their status. Souldn't take more than a few minutes

 17:11 <dpm> I can also help with that, but you guys know best the state of each bug

 17:12 <daliusd> dpm, I would mark them all fix released

 17:12 <daliusd> but I'm not sure actually

 17:12 <daliusd> Who makes releases? Is it automatic process?

 17:13 <dpm> daliusd, as soon as they are on the PPA, they can be considered as released. Releases on the PPA happen daily automatically if there has been a change in the code.

 17:13 <daliusd> OK. In that case I will mark them all fix released

 17:14 <dpm> popey, actually, that's a good question, how is the core apps PPA synced to the daily images?

 17:14 <dpm> great, thanks daliusd

 17:14 <popey> not sure what you mean by "sync"

 17:14 <popey> do you mean "does the ppa build first then the image?"

 17:15 <popey> or do you mean "how do the apps get into the image?"

 17:16 <dpm> the second :)

 17:17 <popey> the build is done in the datacentre, and has the main core apps listed in the seed, and the ppa, so it pulls directly from the ppa, but only specific apps

 17:18 <popey> the build generally starts at ~6:30 UTC and finishes by 08:30 UTC

 17:18 <popey> but there was an issue this morning and the build didnt happen

 17:18 <popey> whenever I have flashed the device and then ssh'ed in and "apt-get update / upgrade" I never get a new build from the PPA

 17:19 <popey> which says to me the image always has latest

 17:19 <dpm> popey, excellent, that makes it clear, thanks

 17:19 <dpm> daliusd, so the rule of thumb is that the images are updated daily with the latest calculator trunk

 17:19 <daliusd> OK

 17:21 <popey> yes, that's it in one line ☻

 17:22 <popey> great.

 17:22 <popey> anything else we needed to discuss?

 17:22 <daliusd> I believe we covered everything :)

 17:23 <popey> dpm: anything from you?

 17:24 <dpm> I don't think I had anything else, other than great work as usual, and we should be getting visual designs soon

 17:24 <popey> yeah, very soon

 17:24 <daliusd> About visual design

 17:25 <daliusd> Do we have any instructions how to theme ubuntu apps?

 17:25 <daliusd> I can simply use my QML knowledge

 17:25 <daliusd> but in case

 17:25 <daliusd> ...

 17:25 <daliusd> I already see some problems overall :-)

 17:26 <popey> Good question, not sure actually.

 17:27 <popey> if there are specific gaps in the sdk, those can be raised with the sdk team..

 17:29 <daliusd> Maybe they have thought about future problems

 17:29 <daliusd> and already have something to propose

 17:29 <daliusd> e.g. if we will have custom background

 17:29 <daliusd> and different aspect ratios

 17:29 <popey> yeah, these are questions to raise either on list or in #ubuntu-touch with kaleo, bzoltan, saviq and other sdk people..

 17:30 <daliusd> OK

 17:30 <daliusd> Let's wait what design team will provice

 17:30 <popey> be good to have that conversation on the list where other core apps devs can see it

 17:31 <daliusd> *provide

 17:31 <daliusd> and react accordingly

 17:31 <popey> but yes, once you have the design, that would be sane ☻

 17:31 <popey> ok, lets wrap up..

 17:31 <popey> thanks for the awesome work as always ☻

 17:31 <popey> #endmeeting



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