17:11 <mhall119> #startmeeting Calculator App
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17:11 <mhall119> Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app
17:11 <mhall119> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-calculator-development
17:11 <mhall119> Burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/ubuntu-calculator-dev.html
17:11 <mhall119> so the burndown chart looks good
17:12 <mhall119> several things are blocked, but that looks to be all visual design stuff
17:12 <boiko> yes
17:12 <mhall119> and things are assigned to the month-2 milestone already
17:12 <mhall119> you guys are on the ball
17:12 <mhall119> :)
17:12 <boiko> so, calc devs are running out of tasks
17:13 <mhall119> balloons: want to talk about autopilot?
17:13 <boiko> autopilot tests are broken, discovered yesterday
17:13 <balloons> mhall119, basically my same speech :-)
17:13 <balloons> specifically yes, ap tests for calc are broken
17:13 <balloons> however I understand some work to fix them and port them to 1.3 was done
17:14 <boiko> isn't autopilot tests being run for MRs in the calc-app branch?
17:14 <mhall119> not yet, not by jenkins
17:14 <daliusd> Hi
17:15 <mhall119> hey daliusd
17:15 <balloons> boiko, no not yet. Martin is still working on getting a jenkins up to do this, but it's been hindered by a few things
17:16 <boiko> balloons: ok
17:16 <balloons> one way to help is to get the calc's autopilot tests running properly
17:16 <boiko> yes, that for sure helps
17:16 <balloons> ideally he'd like a test that is working to test the enviroment out
17:16 <boiko> balloons: I can try to fix the tests today, but I am actually loaded with other prioriaty tasks :/
17:17 <boiko> daliusd: I talked to omer, the tests were already broken, another change that went in must have broken it
17:17 <balloons> boiko, no worries.. Just put it on the schedule to get looked at. I believe someone from the ap team did some work on the tests
17:17 <boiko> balloons: yes, omer ported to ap1.3
17:17 <daliusd> boiko, maybe, but based on python errors it is somewhere in autopilot
17:17 <daliusd> because it finds buttons "1" "2" "3"
17:18 <boiko> daliusd: indeed
17:18 <daliusd> and the same function fails with button "="
17:18 <daliusd> and there is nothing in test code what would make it fail
17:18 <boiko> daliusd: in any case, I will try to look at it later today
17:19 <daliusd> at least that's my impression looking at autopilot's test first time (and at python code not first time)
17:19 <daliusd> OK
17:21 <mhall119> thanks boiko
17:22 <mhall119> so, besides visual design, is there anything you guys are blocked on?
17:23 <daliusd> No
17:23 <daliusd> Everything is fine
17:23 <daliusd> There are two defects for you mhall119  :)
17:23 <mhall119> cool
17:23 <daliusd> Could you check them
17:23 <daliusd> maybe I could do something
17:23 <mhall119> so, I'm defining milestones for Alpha, Beta and Final releases of each of the core apps
17:23 <daliusd> It would be nice to close all the defects
17:24 <mhall119> daliusd: what are the defects?
17:24 <daliusd> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1153787
17:24 <daliusd> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1170096
17:24 <daliusd> Maybe they are simply not closeed
17:25 <mhall119> daliusd: I'll double-check them and close them if appropriate
17:25 <daliusd> Thanks :)
17:25 <mhall119> so like I said, I'm defining alpha, beta and final release milestones for all core apps
17:26 <daliusd> One defect is for Riccardo
17:26 <mhall119> clearly calculator has passed alpha level already
17:26 <daliusd> and another needs design input - I will try to get it tomorrow in design meeting
17:26 <daliusd> Cool :)
17:26 <mhall119> do you feel that it's passed beta level already too, or do you think we should mark June as our beta?
17:26 <daliusd> What are beta requirements?
17:27 <daliusd> Or you are my opinion?
17:27 <daliusd> are -> ask
17:27 <mhall119> asking opinion
17:27 <boiko> mhall119: I think for beta we need at least the final visual design in place
17:27 <mhall119> since you've already gotten all the functional requirements done
17:27 <daliusd> I agree with boiko
17:27 <daliusd> beta is something that we can give for beta testers/users
17:28 <daliusd> and difference between beta and release are minor fixes
17:28 <mhall119> ok, so I'll put Beta for month-3, which will be mid-July, and matches several of the other core apps
17:29 <mhall119> and then final for month-4, mid-August
17:29 <mhall119> which will give enough time for it to be in the phablet image 1.0 release
17:30 <boiko> looks good
17:30 <daliusd> I will have vacations in the end of summer so I hope we will get design before that :)
17:30 <boiko> daliusd: good point
17:31 <mhall119> I do too
17:33 <mhall119> alright, thanks guys, you're doing a great job running this project
17:33 <mhall119> especially keeping on top of the Blueprint and work items
17:33 <mhall119> #endmeeting