20:35:17 <mhall119> #startmeeting Terminal App
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20:35:28 <mhall119> #topic month-2 work items
20:35:44 <mhall119> alright, it's time to schedule work items for the next month of development
20:35:57 <mhall119> currently list is on the BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-terminal-development
20:36:05 <mhall119> is that up to date with your progress?
20:37:07 <ZDmitry> yes, that's we have now
20:37:31 <mhall119> ok, I'm going to move the TODO items into the month-2 milestone
20:37:45 <mhall119> Size terminal window to fill only the available space: TODO
20:37:56 <mhall119> is that one still TODO? It looked to be working
20:38:16 <mhall119> oh, "only" the available size, I see
20:39:04 <ZDmitry> yes, it can work, but still we have scrolled terminal
20:39:13 <mhall119> ok
20:39:29 <mhall119> I'm also adding a work item to add version numbers to the plugin dependency
20:39:53 <mhall119> so that users won't upgrade the ubuntu-terminal-app without the new plugin version it needs being installed as well
20:40:11 <ZDmitry> I saw that
20:40:18 <ZDmitry> this has reason
20:40:38 <mhall119> which means we need to increment the plugin version number every time
20:41:42 <ZDmitry> now I know why plugin not upgraded last time.
20:42:18 <mhall119> I'm also going to move "Create a special layout for the onscreen keyboard (e.g. emoticons, keyboard commands)" into the next month's milestone
20:43:05 <mhall119> I'd like you to talk to the Canonical engineer working on the keyboard to see if we can add more pages (aside from the letters and numbers pages) instead of the panels at the top
20:43:28 <mhall119> that would make it easier to switch to them and keep more screen space available
20:43:52 <mhall119> does that sound reasonable to you?
20:44:39 <ZDmitry> of course
20:44:47 <mhall119> cool
20:45:31 <mhall119> I also moved both test-related work items to month-2, we're going to get autopilot support in both QtCreator and Jenkins soon, and we should make sure we have test coverate on the terminal
20:46:13 <mhall119> which is important, because during UDS earlier this week I got agreement from the phablet device image developers to get the Terminal added as part of the default install :)
20:46:35 <ZDmitry> cool
20:46:49 <ZDmitry> yes, testing is important part
20:47:42 <mhall119> do you have anything else you want to add to the month-2 milestone?
20:47:52 <mhall119> or concerns about the work items planned for this next month?
20:49:45 <ZDmitry> I think, some improvment on autocomplet
20:50:03 <ZDmitry> *autocomplete
20:50:23 <mhall119> I just switch to bash,then use the tab button you added in a panel
20:50:45 <mhall119> though that might be an ideal candidate for a gesture or something
20:51:02 <mhall119> double-tap or long-press for tab
20:51:19 <ZDmitry> double-tap it's idea
20:51:26 <mhall119> that would be cool
20:52:09 <ZDmitry> and long-press we already have, but that switch for alternative control
20:52:43 <mhall119> what does long-press do?
20:53:43 <ZDmitry> switch to gesture mode.
20:54:08 <ZDmitry> one more long press - and you returned to normal
20:55:30 <ZDmitry> that gesture mode works bit unusual, but you can use it instead of arrow keys
20:55:55 <ZDmitry> that's why I add normal arrow keys
20:56:38 <mhall119> what version has that?
20:57:08 <ZDmitry> Latest one.
20:57:26 <mhall119> ok, I must be a version behind on my tablet then
20:58:32 <mhall119> ok, I've added a work item for double-tab to Tab
20:58:43 <mhall119> if you don't get to that, it can wait for the month after
20:59:02 <mhall119> #topic major milestones
20:59:30 <mhall119> so another thing that came up at UDS was a desire to set a timeframe for Alpha, Beta and Final releases of each of the Core Apps
20:59:58 <mhall119> some of them, like the Terminal, have already passed what I could consider an Alpha release level of functionality
21:00:06 <mhall119> so we just need to think about Beta and Final
21:01:21 <mhall119> I think that for the Terminal, we can target month-3, which is July 16th, for a Beta release
21:01:42 <ZDmitry> It has reasoning
21:01:45 <mhall119> it doesn't have to have all the features working, but it should be largely complete by then
21:02:09 <mhall119> and then month-4, or August 16th, for a final 1.0 release
21:02:30 <mhall119> that will give the Ubuntu Touch developers enough time to finish integrating it with their 1.0 release
21:02:52 <ZDmitry> i see
21:03:23 <ZDmitry> So whom can I talk about keyboard layout?
21:03:32 <mhall119> we can push the final release back further, but I don't think there's that many more featurees that it needs
21:03:58 <mhall119> I can't remember his nick, it starts with 'tm', but he's not online right now
21:04:08 <ZDmitry> tmoenickie, yes?
21:04:09 <mhall119> I usually press "tm" then tab to find him :)
21:04:11 <mhall119> yeah, him
21:04:15 <ZDmitry> ok
21:04:34 <mhall119> he should be able to tell you if we can extend the keyboard for those other panels, and how to do it
21:06:07 <ZDmitry> true. Moreover he helped me with previous question.
21:07:36 <ZDmitry> anyway, please, approve this MP https://code.launchpad.net/~fginther/ubuntu-terminal-app/plugin-version-bump-to-0.1.1/+merge/163595 , so we can apt-get current plugin revision.
21:09:43 <mhall119> done
21:09:49 <mhall119> anything else before we end the meeting?
21:11:11 <ZDmitry> that's all, i think
21:11:39 <mhall119> #endmeeting