17:07:11 <popey> #startmeeting Ubuntu Calculator App meeting
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17:07:20 <popey> Happy Release Day ☻
17:07:20 <daliusd> hi popey
17:07:37 <boiko> hey popey, no problems, happy release day :)
17:07:44 <popey> some links...
17:07:46 <popey> blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-calculator-development
17:07:57 <popey> reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calculator-dev/ubuntu-calculator-app/trunk/+activereviews
17:08:05 <popey> bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app
17:08:54 <popey> I noticed there's a number of items for this milestone which have no assignee..
17:08:55 <daliusd> reviews - nothing serious. That will be addressed when we will get design.
17:09:05 <popey> under coreapps-13.10-month-1 in the blueprint
17:09:24 <popey> clearly we're still blocked on design for the final work from them
17:09:37 <popey> but there's a couple of other items in TODO
17:09:42 <popey> can we get those cleared up?
17:10:04 <daliusd> let's do that
17:10:09 <daliusd> "Get package included in Touch preview images"
17:10:11 <daliusd> ?
17:10:33 <mhall119> done
17:10:40 * boiko updates
17:11:05 <daliusd> Add autopilot tests - can assign me
17:11:21 <boiko> oups, already marked as done (the include in images) :)
17:11:23 <daliusd> Create a Widgets folder and move common components (Button, Screen, etc) there - assign me again
17:11:44 <daliusd> boiko, sorry :)
17:12:07 <boiko> daliusd: no problems, if you are editing the blueprint just go ahead and add yourself to the tasks
17:12:09 <daliusd> Add copyright headers and COPYING - I have no idea what must be added. I guess some standard copy-paste comment.
17:12:22 <mhall119> is scientific view still something we plan on providing in this app?
17:12:33 <boiko> daliusd: the blueprints stuff doesn't really like multiple editings (I ended up overwriting someone's editing the other day)
17:12:36 <mhall119> or would that be better left to a separate app
17:12:58 <boiko> mhall119: I guess it is, but we are missing design AFAIK
17:13:05 <popey> Fork it!
17:13:05 <popey>17:13:14 <boiko> lol
17:13:44 <daliusd> Based on e-mail we got from David
17:13:51 <daliusd> design team has something
17:14:00 <daliusd> let's see what they will say tomorrow in the design meeting
17:14:10 <boiko> daliusd: when did you get this e-mail?
17:14:26 <daliusd> today
17:14:36 <boiko> daliusd: ah ok, would you mind forwarding me that?
17:14:37 <daliusd> you were not included :)
17:14:45 <daliusd> I'll do that
17:15:03 <boiko> daliusd: also if it is not a problem for you guys, I would like to participate in this design meeting
17:15:05 <popey> sorry you were missed off
17:15:14 <boiko> popey: no problems
17:15:34 <boiko> maybe we should create a mailing list for the calc app? just to centralize the communication?
17:16:07 <daliusd> boiko, we have ubuntu-touch mailing list
17:16:08 <daliusd> alrady
17:16:09 <daliusd> already
17:16:14 <daliusd> multiple apps are mixed there
17:16:41 <daliusd> ubuntu-touch-coreapps@lists.launchpad.net
17:16:55 <boiko> daliusd: yeah, but the meeting schedule, and design communication seems to be happening  in private e-mails and not there
17:17:30 <daliusd> boiko, maybe I don't know :)
17:17:43 <daliusd> I have personally even was not aware about these design meetings at all :)
17:17:54 <mhall119> isn't there already a mailing address for the LP team?
17:18:06 <boiko> daliusd: yeah, it is the first time I heard about them too
17:18:18 <daliusd> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Meetings
17:20:33 <boiko> ouch, tomorrow I have another meeting at the same time, but it is just tomorrow, I'll make sure to add the design meeting to my calendar for the next ones
17:20:53 <daliusd> no problem :)
17:21:13 <popey> If you can think of ways we can improve the communication, I'm listening ☻
17:22:20 <daliusd> popey, the less channels the better :)
17:22:46 <boiko> I think it is just a matter of making sure the communication channels are used
17:23:01 <daliusd> boiko, this as well :)
17:23:04 <popey> for the design meetings we could switch to having hangouts on air, which makes them public
17:23:30 <popey> and archived for later viewing on youtube
17:24:45 <daliusd> OK let's return to blueprint
17:24:51 <daliusd> what about that copyright stuff?
17:25:03 <popey> that shouldn't take long ㋛
17:25:25 <boiko> yep, it is just a matter of adding copyright headers to source code files, and a COPYING
17:25:33 <daliusd> popey, I guess so, but I personally don't know what to add :)
17:25:43 <boiko> I can probably take some time to do that
17:25:49 <popey> great!
17:25:51 <daliusd> OK I will assign you :)
17:25:55 <popey> thanks
17:26:30 <boiko> okie dokie
17:26:43 <daliusd> I guess we are done with blueprint then :)
17:26:51 <mhall119> \o/
17:27:30 <boiko> I don't want to be too picky about that, but I really think we should write tests whenever possible together with the fixes we do (when it makes sense, of course)
17:27:41 <daliusd> boiko, I agree :)
17:27:44 <popey> +1
17:28:21 <daliusd> we had initially bunch of Qt Quick tests
17:28:55 <boiko> yep, I saw them, that's a nice start already
17:29:09 <popey> we also have some autopilot infrastructure
17:29:21 <popey> the default apps on the device have autopilot tests
17:29:59 <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing/Autopilot#Run_some_examples  details how you can run them, and how to get the ap tests for existing apps, to look at
17:30:20 <daliusd> popey, thanks :)
17:30:24 <popey> np
17:30:27 <popey> ok, anything else?
17:30:38 <boiko> popey: actually the calc app already has autopilot infrastructure implemented
17:30:45 <boiko> it is really just a matter of adding tests
17:31:05 <popey> indeed..
17:31:11 <boiko> that's it from my side
17:31:20 <popey> be good if calculator had more / better tests than the default apps developed by canonical ㋛
17:31:31 <daliusd> :)
17:31:39 <popey> I'll just leave that there.
17:31:39 <daliusd> nothing else from my side
17:31:52 <popey> ok, great, thanks guys, enjoy the rest of your day, see you at the design call tomorrow..
17:32:06 <daliusd> thanks and bye ;-)
17:32:07 <boiko> thanks guys! cheers!
17:32:10 <popey> #endmeeting