#title #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Ubuntu calculator app meeting

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== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2013/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2013-03-14-18.01.html   (popey, 18:00:46)
''ACTION:'' popey contact design about the "equals" bug  (popey, 18:19:40)
''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app   (popey, 18:23:02)
''ACTION:'' popey draw up feature list for calculator app and get sign off from mgmt, dev and design  (popey, 18:26:58)



Meeting ended at 18:29:37 UTC.



== Votes ==




== Action items ==

 * popey contact design about the "equals" bug
 * popey draw up feature list for calculator app and get sign off from mgmt, dev and design



== Action items, by person ==

 * popey
 ** popey contact design about the "equals" bug
 ** popey draw up feature list for calculator app and get sign off from mgmt, dev and design



== People present (lines said) ==

 * popey (74)
 * mhall119 (34)
 * daliusd (33)
 * rferrazz (19)
 * meetingology (5)
 * ravirdv (5)



== Full Log ==


 17:59:41 <popey> #startmeeting Ubuntu calculator app meeting

 17:59:41 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar 21 17:59:41 2013 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 17:59:45 <popey> who's here?

 17:59:57 <ravirdv> hi

 18:00:07 <daliusd> hi

 18:00:38 <popey> hey, so i had a couple of action items last time

 18:00:46 <popey> http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2013/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2013-03-14-18.01.html

 18:00:57 <popey> "ACTION: popey speak to SDK team about OSX support"

 18:01:04 <popey> Short answer, "not yet".

 18:01:21 <popey> if someone else wants to have a go at porting things over to OSX, they are welcome to try

 18:01:33 <ravirdv> alright, that means I'll have to start using VM

 18:01:40 <popey> but nobody on the SDK team has a mac, and motivation is currently high to get it perfect on Ubuntu first

 18:01:49 <daliusd> People have ported SDK to win and bb10 to some degree

 18:01:50 <ravirdv> I did try and will still work on it... some packages are missing while compiling

 18:01:59 <popey> ravirdv: I'd be interested to know which VM you use, VMWare, parallels etc?

 18:02:08 <rferrazz> here i am

 18:02:11 <popey> hi rferrazz

 18:02:13 <popey> we just started

 18:02:18 * mhall119 is here

 18:02:20 <popey> the other action I had was..

 18:02:24 * popey popey speak to SDK about location aware apps

 18:02:25 <rferrazz> phew

 18:02:26 <daliusd> I would recommend VmWare against VirtualBox

 18:02:29 <daliusd> hi

 18:02:49 <ravirdv> I use vbox

 18:02:54 <daliusd> Ubuntu under VirtualBox works very slow but reasonably on VMWare

 18:03:08 <ravirdv> that's a reason I'm looking for OSX sdk

 18:03:11 <popey> spoke to SDK team, and they pointed me at qtlocation, but the whole location awareness process is a bit unfinished at the moment

 18:03:31 <popey> so location based stuff will likely have to wait for "version 2"

 18:03:36 <daliusd> well we can put location for post alpha

 18:03:40 <popey> yup

 18:03:49 <popey> I have ubuntu running pretty quick in vbox here

 18:03:51 <daliusd> It looks like we agree here :)

 18:04:02 <daliusd> popey, with Unity?

 18:04:07 <popey> the only snag is that the 3d passthrough works fine for the desktop, and yes, unity

 18:04:10 <mhall119> why do we need location for calculator anywya?

 18:04:11 <popey> but doesnt work for qmlscene

 18:04:22 <popey> mhall119: design asked for it as a nice to have

 18:04:34 <popey> for when you're in a restaurant and tot up the bill

 18:04:41 <mhall119> popey: for what feature?

 18:04:43 <popey> it can tag where you were.. you could potentially share that later

 18:04:49 <mhall119> oh, ok

 18:04:58 <mhall119> yeah, definitely something to push back to version 2

 18:05:01 <popey> yup

 18:05:06 <popey> good, glad we agree on that :D

 18:05:16 <popey> ok.

 18:05:31 <popey> So you probably all noticed I filed a bunch of bugs in the calculator app this past week

 18:05:44 <rferrazz> noticed, a long list :-)

 18:05:46 <popey> that was after the meeting with design last friday, many of them came from design.

 18:05:50 <popey> keeping you busy :D

 18:05:56 <daliusd> :)

 18:06:14 <rferrazz> sure!

 18:06:18 <popey> Any blockers / questions / issues?

 18:06:31 <daliusd> about tear-off

 18:06:31 <mhall119> daliusd: I did some work on the drag-to-tear-off design

 18:06:32 <rferrazz> i'm playing around with the result bug

 18:06:33 <mhall119> did you see it?

 18:06:38 <daliusd> I did see it

 18:06:46 <daliusd> I have even wrote something to you I believe

 18:06:50 <daliusd> Anyway thanks

 18:06:55 <daliusd> saves some time

 18:07:02 <daliusd> I have implemented it differently finally

 18:07:04 <rferrazz> so 3+= will result 3 right?

 18:07:07 <mhall119> ok

 18:07:27 <daliusd> Here is diff: https://code.launchpad.net/~dalius-sandbox/ubuntu-calculator-app/tear-off-formula/+merge/154774

 18:08:17 <popey> Good progress on tear-off

 18:08:24 <popey> The "equals bug" is a tricky one

 18:08:32 <popey> because the behaviour is somewhat complex

 18:09:21 <popey> I'd like to get some input from design on exactly how they want it to be, because the "roll of paper" style of calculator might not lend itself too well to the way they asked for = to work

 18:09:21 <rferrazz> i ended up removing the last operand if there was a syntax error and it seems fine

 18:09:31 <rferrazz> not yet committed

 18:09:38 <popey> there is an expectation that:-

 18:09:54 <popey> 1+2+3=6,   then if you press = again you get 9, then 12, then 15

 18:10:01 <popey> without any other buttons pressed,

 18:10:10 <mhall119> daliusd: does yours work even when dragging around the middle?

 18:10:13 <popey> so 1+2+3====  would produce 15

 18:10:28 <popey> how that would move up the display I'm not sure

 18:10:37 <daliusd> what it means to drag around the middle ?

 18:11:15 <mhall119> daliusd: if you scroll half-way up, then stop, and then start another movement event

 18:12:00 <daliusd> mhall119: if I understand correctly tear-off will not work if you have scrolled somewhere up

 18:12:10 <mhall119> when I was working on it, I had that problem, where it would drag up, but not to the point where it was over-scrolling, but would still trigger the tear off

 18:12:19 <mhall119> daliusd: and your code works like that?

 18:13:27 <daliusd> mhall119: I will test more but I believe there is no such problem

 18:13:40 <mhall119> ok

 18:13:55 <daliusd> I can only make one improvement

 18:13:57 <daliusd> add text

 18:13:58 <mhall119> yours looks much simpler, I'll have to see if I can use it in my reddit app :)

 18:14:22 <daliusd> "pull to refresh" and "release to refresh" but then I need to implement "release to refresh" as it is not implemented

 18:14:29 <daliusd> it is enough to pull over specific point

 18:14:38 <rferrazz> popey, i can make it work like you say but pressing === just changes the current result or adds more lines to the screen?

 18:14:55 <popey> rferrazz: that's what I'm not sure about

 18:15:19 <daliusd> mhall119: I'm pretty sure it is completely reusable. If you have any questions about it - ask. I will explain the code :)

 18:15:26 <popey> so I'll try and get an answer from design. will write it up before hand and let them have time to think about it

 18:15:37 <mhall119> thanks daliusd

 18:15:56 <rferrazz> popey, if it just changes the result it ends up being not clear when you see it in the history plot

 18:16:18 <popey> indeed

 18:16:30 <popey> I think it would need to go.. bear with me...

 18:17:00 <rferrazz> hi, tell me when you have a response from design team!

 18:18:02 <popey> 1

 18:18:02 <popey> +2

 18:18:03 <popey> +3

 18:18:03 <popey> =6

 18:18:03 <popey> =9

 18:18:05 <popey> =12

 18:18:09 <popey> ----

 18:18:10 <popey> like that

 18:18:36 <daliusd> I just learned that I rejected merge proposal from someone working in Canonical :)

 18:18:42 <popey> \o/

 18:18:47 <popey> daliusd: that's a rite of passage

 18:18:51 <popey> you earn points for that

 18:18:58 <mhall119> +1

 18:19:30 <popey> rferrazz: so I'll let you know when I get an answer from design

 18:19:40 <popey> #action popey contact design about the "equals" bug

 18:19:40 * meetingology popey contact design about the "equals" bug

 18:19:48 <rferrazz> popey, thanks

 18:20:19 <popey> Any other issues / blockages?

 18:20:35 <rferrazz> not now

 18:20:46 <daliusd> not yet

 18:21:22 <daliusd> tear-off was block but somehow figured out how to handle it

 18:21:59 <popey> awesome.

 18:22:01 <mhall119> did we have a work item for the tear-off?

 18:22:14 <popey> no, i filed a bug for it

 18:22:18 <mhall119> ok

 18:22:28 <mhall119> I see only 2 work items still in progress

 18:22:37 <mhall119> is that all we have left of the initial feature development?

 18:22:52 <popey> there's a bunch more bugs..

 18:23:02 <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app

 18:23:21 <daliusd> mhall119: one item is invalid most probably as we won't have backspace

 18:23:40 <daliusd> we just need to fix "C" to clean last entry not the whole equation

 18:23:42 <daliusd> (we have bug for that)

 18:23:53 <mhall119> so I would like to get this app into the default touch images, but we need a list of "features that must be working first" to check off

 18:24:00 <daliusd> other item in blueprint is about "equals" bug

 18:24:17 <popey> we also need to have the app reviewed formally by the design team

 18:24:19 <mhall119> can we add work items for anything that needs to be implemented before we propose this for inclusion in the daily touch images?

 18:24:27 <daliusd> popey: +1

 18:24:35 <mhall119> popey: are they not doing that as we develop features?

 18:24:55 <popey> yes, but there is a final review

 18:25:06 <mhall119> ok

 18:25:26 <mhall119> so we need a feature list, and when all of those are done we get final review from design, then we can include it by default?

 18:25:32 <popey> which, at the rate these guys are going, could be fairly soon

 18:25:40 <mhall119> yeah, that's my thinking

 18:26:26 <popey> shall I take the action to build the feature list and agree it with design?

 18:26:33 <popey> (and devs) :D

 18:26:38 <mhall119> please

 18:26:45 <mhall119> might also get pat to review it

 18:26:54 <mhall119> make sure it has all the features he would want

 18:26:58 <popey> #action popey draw up feature list for calculator app and get sign off from mgmt, dev and design

 18:26:58 * meetingology popey draw up feature list for calculator app and get sign off from mgmt, dev and design

 18:27:35 <popey> ok, anything else?

 18:27:52 <mhall119> not from me

 18:27:58 <rferrazz> me neither

 18:28:06 <mhall119> I'm thoroughly impressed with you guys, you've done so much in such a short amount of time

 18:28:11 <popey> +1

 18:28:17 <rferrazz> :)

 18:28:22 <daliusd> :)

 18:28:22 <rferrazz> thanks!

 18:28:33 * popey secretly ponders which app we can get them making next ㋛

 18:28:45 <mhall119> scientific calculator :P

 18:28:49 <popey> hah!

 18:28:49 <rferrazz> rocket louncher app?

 18:28:57 <rferrazz> launcher

 18:28:57 <popey> Angry Penguins ☺

 18:29:02 <mhall119> oh, I like that idea

 18:29:12 <rferrazz> +1

 18:29:21 <mhall119> I wonder if box2d works on the touch image

 18:29:28 <popey> hah, he's off...

 18:29:35 <popey> ok, thanks everyone!

 18:29:37 <popey> #endmeeting



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