#title #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Ubuntu Calculator Core App meeting

Meeting started by popey at 18:01:06 UTC.  The full logs are available
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== Meeting summary ==

 *Review work items and ensure everyone is happy with them and there are no blockers
''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+spec/initial-calculator-development   (popey, 18:03:05)
''LINK:'' http://popey.com/~alan/calc1.png   (popey, 18:08:48)
''LINK:'' http://design.canonical.com/2013/03/app-patterns-applied-calculator-key-journeys/   (popey, 18:20:35)
''ACTION:'' popey speak to SDK about location aware apps  (popey, 18:25:07)
''ACTION:'' popey speak to SDK team about OSX support  (popey, 18:27:51)



Meeting ended at 18:28:44 UTC.



== Votes ==




== Action items ==

 * popey speak to SDK about location aware apps
 * popey speak to SDK team about OSX support



== Action items, by person ==

 * popey
 ** popey speak to SDK about location aware apps
 ** popey speak to SDK team about OSX support



== People present (lines said) ==

 * popey (68)
 * daliusd (65)
 * rferrazz (13)
 * meetingology (5)
 * ravirdv (4)



== Full Log ==


 18:01:06 <popey> #startmeeting Ubuntu Calculator Core App meeting

 18:01:06 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar 14 18:01:06 2013 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 18:01:11 <popey> Who's here for the meeting?

 18:01:12 <popey> o/

 18:01:19 <daliusd> me

 18:01:26 <daliusd> rferrazz, must be here as well

 18:02:11 <rferrazz> i'm here!

 18:02:15 <rferrazz> just in time

 18:02:15 <popey> great!

 18:02:18 <popey> ☺

 18:02:32 <popey> #topic  Review work items and ensure everyone is happy with them and there are no blockers

 18:02:46 <popey> I saw some updates to the work items this afternoon..

 18:03:05 <popey> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+spec/initial-calculator-development

 18:03:21 <popey> and some updates to the code which I just checked out..

 18:03:24 <popey> looking great!

 18:03:31 <daliusd> I guess rferrazz even implemented more than it is marked

 18:03:41 <daliusd> e.g. Implement "C" is done as well

 18:03:58 <rferrazz> don't know what it means

 18:04:11 <popey> lets make sure we keep the "DONE" items in the list, so people can see the stuff that's been done. I saw some items removed earlier..

 18:04:24 <daliusd> my idea is that "C" button should work

 18:04:26 <daliusd> that's it

 18:04:32 <daliusd> it was not working before :)

 18:04:48 <rferrazz> ah! ok, so we can mark it as DONE

 18:05:28 <popey> excellent

 18:05:39 <popey> are you guys blocked on anything at the moment?

 18:05:48 <daliusd> no we are not

 18:05:56 <daliusd> we just need to discuss some little details

 18:05:57 <daliusd> Start new calculation (I think "C" should be used for that)

 18:06:00 <popey> ok

 18:06:01 <daliusd> this one is either DONE

 18:06:03 <daliusd> or not

 18:06:09 <daliusd> design team proposed

 18:06:13 <daliusd> to use swipe up

 18:06:21 <daliusd> or maybe swipe up and release

 18:06:26 <daliusd> whatever

 18:06:27 <popey> as the tear-off?

 18:06:37 <daliusd> no

 18:06:41 <daliusd> maybe like refresh

 18:06:44 <daliusd> in some apps

 18:06:57 <daliusd> when you swipe down and release to refresh

 18:06:59 <popey> oh as a general purpose gesture?

 18:07:23 <daliusd> in any case they are inventing new gesture

 18:07:27 <popey> not sure what there is to "refresh" in a calculator?

 18:07:38 <daliusd> exactly

 18:07:40 <rferrazz> i've tried to acheive that but it's not easy

 18:07:40 <daliusd> that's one problem

 18:07:44 <popey> perhaps we should raise that with the design team on the call with them tomorrow?

 18:07:53 <daliusd> yes we can do that

 18:07:56 <daliusd> while C

 18:08:09 <daliusd> already does what's necessary

 18:08:11 <daliusd> is intuitive

 18:08:14 <daliusd> and expected

 18:08:16 <popey> yeah

 18:08:21 <popey> people know "C"

 18:08:28 <popey> gestures are cool though ;)

 18:08:34 <daliusd> but let's give design team a chance

 18:08:39 <popey> So, i found a couple of bugs...

 18:08:48 <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/calc1.png

 18:08:53 <popey> don't think it should let me do that

 18:09:18 <daliusd> file bug and let us fix it :)

 18:09:33 <popey> yeah, will do, only just found it before the meeting started

 18:10:03 <daliusd> nice :)

 18:10:15 <popey> another interesting one is what happens if you do this sequence... 1 + 2 + + = =

 18:10:49 <popey> equals in my mind should always "undo" whatever operator you just pressed

 18:11:00 <popey> and just provide the result of the latest calculation

 18:11:15 <popey> (my internet connection is a bit wobbly, if I disappear mid sentence, that's why)

 18:11:36 <popey> but I'll file a bug about both

 18:11:43 <daliusd> most probably that's one bug

 18:11:53 <daliusd> but file for both

 18:11:55 <rferrazz> popey, do you have the lastest sources? i can't press operators more than one time

 18:12:01 <popey> yes

 18:12:10 <daliusd> rferrazz, play around with +/- button

 18:12:13 <popey> i did a bzr pull at about 5 mins before the meeting

 18:12:43 <daliusd> I can reproduce this as well

 18:12:50 <popey> 1 + 2 / = =

 18:12:51 <daliusd> the trick is to get several + in line

 18:12:58 <daliusd> when you can press anything

 18:13:00 <rferrazz> ok, i've reproduced the bug!

 18:13:04 <popey> \o/

 18:13:04 <daliusd> *then you can press anything

 18:14:16 <popey> Are we still using localstorage to save frequently? is it still a performance issue?

 18:14:29 <rferrazz> we use it on shutdown

 18:14:37 <popey> ok.

 18:15:18 <popey> What's intended to go on the help/about page?

 18:15:28 <daliusd> We have no idea yet :)

 18:15:39 <popey> I only discovered it by accident, swiped sideways when i should have clicked

 18:15:50 <daliusd> most probably it shouldn't even be tab

 18:16:04 <daliusd> most probably page called using toolbar

 18:16:06 <popey> I dont think I've eve read the help for a calculator app

 18:16:22 <popey> maybe I did when windows 3.0 came out because I had nothing else to run ☺

 18:16:29 <daliusd> :D

 18:17:10 <rferrazz> we could get rid of tabs too?

 18:17:16 <popey> the tabs?

 18:17:21 <daliusd> Yes

 18:17:25 <daliusd> why not

 18:17:30 <daliusd> notepad-qml is not using tabs

 18:18:03 <popey> well if there's only one tab..

 18:18:28 <popey> I guess traditionally we'd have somewhere to put the copyright message, author names etc

 18:18:44 <popey> but that sounds like one for design too ..

 18:18:54 <popey> the tab is a bit of a waste of space

 18:19:04 <rferrazz> agree!

 18:19:16 <daliusd> we can create help button in toolbar

 18:19:21 <popey> it's not like you don't know you're in a calculator

 18:19:45 <daliusd> or "about"

 18:20:02 <ravirdv> hmm I don't think we need about tab

 18:20:33 <daliusd> Updated blueprint a little bit

 18:20:35 <popey> http://design.canonical.com/2013/03/app-patterns-applied-calculator-key-journeys/

 18:20:40 <popey> first one doesn't have a tab

 18:21:37 <popey> ok, lets go with no tab and confirm with design for tomorro?

 18:21:39 <popey> +w

 18:21:47 <daliusd> ok

 18:21:53 <rferrazz> ok

 18:21:56 <popey> great.

 18:21:59 <popey> anything else?

 18:22:23 <daliusd> at the moment no

 18:22:46 <daliusd> I have at least one idea but don't remember it now :)

 18:22:57 <popey> you need a notepad app ;)

 18:23:11 <daliusd> it's about location

 18:23:27 <ravirdv> interesting..

 18:23:32 <daliusd> design contains idea to add location where we have date only now

 18:23:34 <popey> getting the location from the device? for tagging calculations?

 18:23:43 <daliusd> like @costco

 18:23:47 <daliusd> Yes

 18:23:53 <daliusd> Design has that :)

 18:23:55 <rferrazz> good idea!

 18:24:25 <popey> you want to know how we can get the location of the device?

 18:24:26 <ravirdv> I haven't seen it on other platforms

 18:24:28 <daliusd> question is if device can give us something inteligent

 18:24:54 <popey> I'll speak to the SDK guys about it, I have thinking about this myself for other apps

 18:25:02 <daliusd> OK

 18:25:07 <popey> #action popey speak to SDK about location aware apps

 18:25:07 * meetingology popey speak to SDK about location aware apps

 18:25:11 <daliusd> that's not the most important thing :)

 18:25:15 <ravirdv> popey: any idea when SDK will have official OSX support?

 18:25:19 <daliusd> plus it is security issue

 18:25:36 <daliusd> e.g. user might not want to have gps turned on for some reasons

 18:25:38 <popey> sure, there's a lot of other things to raise around location awareness, I agree.

 18:25:51 <popey> but "is it possible to get the location of the device" is a good starter

 18:26:22 <daliusd> BTW funny thing that I have something better than notepad :)

 18:26:40 <daliusd> I have written TODO service with app for smartphones I have

 18:26:49 <popey> nice!

 18:26:50 <daliusd> but usually I forget to use it :D

 18:26:54 <popey> haha

 18:27:20 <popey> the notepad app with the sdk really is a basic demo though..

 18:27:31 <popey> ok, we're nearly out of time, anything before I end the meeting?

 18:27:44 <daliusd> nothing from me :)

 18:27:51 <popey> #action popey speak to SDK team about OSX support

 18:27:51 * meetingology popey speak to SDK team about OSX support

 18:28:26 <rferrazz> me neither

 18:28:31 <popey> (I wouldnt get my hopes up, I'd be surprised if any of our poor impoverished SDK developers could affort shiny Apple hardware ;)

 18:28:35 <popey> great!

 18:28:42 <popey> thanks guys! awesome work as always!

 18:28:44 <popey> #endmeeting



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