18:01:06 #startmeeting Ubuntu Calculator Core App meeting 18:01:06 Meeting started Thu Mar 14 18:01:06 2013 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 18:01:06 18:01:06 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 18:01:11 Who's here for the meeting? 18:01:12 o/ 18:01:19 me 18:01:26 rferrazz, must be here as well 18:02:11 i'm here! 18:02:15 just in time 18:02:15 great! 18:02:18 ☺ 18:02:32 #topic Review work items and ensure everyone is happy with them and there are no blockers 18:02:46 I saw some updates to the work items this afternoon.. 18:03:05 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+spec/initial-calculator-development 18:03:21 and some updates to the code which I just checked out.. 18:03:24 looking great! 18:03:31 I guess rferrazz even implemented more than it is marked 18:03:41 e.g. Implement "C" is done as well 18:03:58 don't know what it means 18:04:11 lets make sure we keep the "DONE" items in the list, so people can see the stuff that's been done. I saw some items removed earlier.. 18:04:24 my idea is that "C" button should work 18:04:26 that's it 18:04:32 it was not working before :) 18:04:48 ah! ok, so we can mark it as DONE 18:05:28 excellent 18:05:39 are you guys blocked on anything at the moment? 18:05:48 no we are not 18:05:56 we just need to discuss some little details 18:05:57 Start new calculation (I think "C" should be used for that) 18:06:00 ok 18:06:01 this one is either DONE 18:06:03 or not 18:06:09 design team proposed 18:06:13 to use swipe up 18:06:21 or maybe swipe up and release 18:06:26 whatever 18:06:27 as the tear-off? 18:06:37 no 18:06:41 maybe like refresh 18:06:44 in some apps 18:06:57 when you swipe down and release to refresh 18:06:59 oh as a general purpose gesture? 18:07:23 in any case they are inventing new gesture 18:07:27 not sure what there is to "refresh" in a calculator? 18:07:38 exactly 18:07:40 i've tried to acheive that but it's not easy 18:07:40 that's one problem 18:07:44 perhaps we should raise that with the design team on the call with them tomorrow? 18:07:53 yes we can do that 18:07:56 while C 18:08:09 already does what's necessary 18:08:11 is intuitive 18:08:14 and expected 18:08:16 yeah 18:08:21 people know "C" 18:08:28 gestures are cool though ;) 18:08:34 but let's give design team a chance 18:08:39 So, i found a couple of bugs... 18:08:48 http://popey.com/~alan/calc1.png 18:08:53 don't think it should let me do that 18:09:18 file bug and let us fix it :) 18:09:33 yeah, will do, only just found it before the meeting started 18:10:03 nice :) 18:10:15 another interesting one is what happens if you do this sequence... 1 + 2 + + = = 18:10:49 equals in my mind should always "undo" whatever operator you just pressed 18:11:00 and just provide the result of the latest calculation 18:11:15 (my internet connection is a bit wobbly, if I disappear mid sentence, that's why) 18:11:36 but I'll file a bug about both 18:11:43 most probably that's one bug 18:11:53 but file for both 18:11:55 popey, do you have the lastest sources? i can't press operators more than one time 18:12:01 yes 18:12:10 rferrazz, play around with +/- button 18:12:13 i did a bzr pull at about 5 mins before the meeting 18:12:43 I can reproduce this as well 18:12:50 1 + 2 / = = 18:12:51 the trick is to get several + in line 18:12:58 when you can press anything 18:13:00 ok, i've reproduced the bug! 18:13:04 \o/ 18:13:04 *then you can press anything 18:14:16 Are we still using localstorage to save frequently? is it still a performance issue? 18:14:29 we use it on shutdown 18:14:37 ok. 18:15:18 What's intended to go on the help/about page? 18:15:28 We have no idea yet :) 18:15:39 I only discovered it by accident, swiped sideways when i should have clicked 18:15:50 most probably it shouldn't even be tab 18:16:04 most probably page called using toolbar 18:16:06 I dont think I've eve read the help for a calculator app 18:16:22 maybe I did when windows 3.0 came out because I had nothing else to run ☺ 18:16:29 :D 18:17:10 we could get rid of tabs too? 18:17:16 the tabs? 18:17:21 Yes 18:17:25 why not 18:17:30 notepad-qml is not using tabs 18:18:03 well if there's only one tab.. 18:18:28 I guess traditionally we'd have somewhere to put the copyright message, author names etc 18:18:44 but that sounds like one for design too .. 18:18:54 the tab is a bit of a waste of space 18:19:04 agree! 18:19:16 we can create help button in toolbar 18:19:21 it's not like you don't know you're in a calculator 18:19:45 or "about" 18:20:02 hmm I don't think we need about tab 18:20:33 Updated blueprint a little bit 18:20:35 http://design.canonical.com/2013/03/app-patterns-applied-calculator-key-journeys/ 18:20:40 first one doesn't have a tab 18:21:37 ok, lets go with no tab and confirm with design for tomorro? 18:21:39 +w 18:21:47 ok 18:21:53 ok 18:21:56 great. 18:21:59 anything else? 18:22:23 at the moment no 18:22:46 I have at least one idea but don't remember it now :) 18:22:57 you need a notepad app ;) 18:23:11 it's about location 18:23:27 interesting.. 18:23:32 design contains idea to add location where we have date only now 18:23:34 getting the location from the device? for tagging calculations? 18:23:43 like @costco 18:23:47 Yes 18:23:53 Design has that :) 18:23:55 good idea! 18:24:25 you want to know how we can get the location of the device? 18:24:26 I haven't seen it on other platforms 18:24:28 question is if device can give us something inteligent 18:24:54 I'll speak to the SDK guys about it, I have thinking about this myself for other apps 18:25:02 OK 18:25:07 #action popey speak to SDK about location aware apps 18:25:07 * meetingology popey speak to SDK about location aware apps 18:25:11 that's not the most important thing :) 18:25:15 popey: any idea when SDK will have official OSX support? 18:25:19 plus it is security issue 18:25:36 e.g. user might not want to have gps turned on for some reasons 18:25:38 sure, there's a lot of other things to raise around location awareness, I agree. 18:25:51 but "is it possible to get the location of the device" is a good starter 18:26:22 BTW funny thing that I have something better than notepad :) 18:26:40 I have written TODO service with app for smartphones I have 18:26:49 nice! 18:26:50 but usually I forget to use it :D 18:26:54 haha 18:27:20 the notepad app with the sdk really is a basic demo though.. 18:27:31 ok, we're nearly out of time, anything before I end the meeting? 18:27:44 nothing from me :) 18:27:51 #action popey speak to SDK team about OSX support 18:27:51 * meetingology popey speak to SDK team about OSX support 18:28:26 me neither 18:28:31 (I wouldnt get my hopes up, I'd be surprised if any of our poor impoverished SDK developers could affort shiny Apple hardware ;) 18:28:35 great! 18:28:42 thanks guys! awesome work as always! 18:28:44 #endmeeting