20:38:35 <popey> #startmeeting Ubuntu Touch Documentation App Meeting
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20:38:38 <popey> hah
20:38:53 <popey> #introductions
20:39:08 <popey> 20:01:47 < popey> I'm Alan Pope, I'm an Engineering Manager at Canonical, and have been asked to act as a Developer Liaison for all the touch apps..
20:39:11 <popey> 20:03:17 < mhall119> like popey said, I'm from Canonical, specifically I'm on the Community Team, which means it's my job to work with you and help you
20:39:14 <popey> :D
20:39:32 <popey> lukaszgut: srxavi want to introduce yourselves?
20:39:51 <srxavi> I'm Xavi Francisco I'm a software engineer from Barcelona
20:40:23 <srxavi> pleased to meet you all
20:40:28 <popey> hey!
20:40:41 <lukaszgut> Hi everybody. I'm Lukasz Gut (not hard to guess). I'm currently working in e.solutions in Ulm, Germany. I was previously in Nokia in Qt/Qml project.
20:41:36 <popey> heh
20:41:40 <popey> oh, excellent
20:41:45 <popey> #topic work items
20:42:07 <mhall119> thanks popey :)
20:42:10 <popey> so I copied the work items we had from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docviewer-app/+spec/initial-docviewer-development to http://pad.ubuntu.com/Q491UJFUQD
20:42:13 <popey> so we can assign them
20:42:29 <popey> lukaszgut: srxavi can you both try the pad url and if you get access denied we'll add you...
20:42:45 <mhall119> if anybody can't access the pad, you need to join http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad
20:42:58 <srxavi> no prob for me
20:43:31 <popey> so the goal is to figure out if these work items make sense, and assign them to people to get the work done.
20:44:30 <srxavi> let's see
20:46:21 <angeloc> Hi guys, I'm here, sorry for being late
20:46:34 <popey> hi Angelo!
20:46:36 <popey> np
20:46:42 <lukaszgut> popey, trying to join etherpad... still not getting in
20:46:46 <srxavi> Hi angelo
20:46:53 <popey> lukaszgut: have you joined http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad on launchpad?
20:47:07 <popey> angeloc: we're looking at the tasks from the blueprint at http://pad.ubuntu.com/Q491UJFUQD
20:47:11 <popey> can you access that?
20:47:14 <lukaszgut> popey, yes, just a sec ago
20:47:17 <popey> (if not, see launchpad link above)
20:47:30 <AlanBell> lukaszgut: just approved you, try now
20:47:33 <popey> lukaszgut: try refreshing the page?
20:47:35 <popey> thanks AlanBell
20:48:29 <lukaszgut> poisonedslo, AlanBell cool, I got in
20:50:03 <popey> so right now I'm looking for people to nominate themselves by putting [popey] (their nickname) in front of any of the tasks..
20:50:17 <popey> anyone want to get the ball rolling?
20:50:26 <lukaszgut> I assume that it would be good to start with some simple pdf viewer draft, i can play with that
20:50:31 <popey> I agree
20:50:49 <popey> I'd think pdf, txt would be easier than some of the more heavily formatted ones like xls
20:50:51 <srxavi> sure, also it would be nice to implement an image viewer
20:50:57 <angeloc> popey: OpenID Authentication Required
20:51:07 <srxavi> as it may not be really difficult
20:51:11 <popey> angeloc: you need a launchpad account
20:51:14 <lukaszgut> i could try to use poppler lib and render something
20:51:27 <srxavi> maybe you can use pdf.js?
20:51:29 <popey> angeloc: and once logged in, you need to be in this team http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad
20:51:58 <angeloc> popey, my account is two year old, too old? :)
20:51:58 <mhall119> is anybody familiar with the Calligra work on mobile doc viewers?
20:52:04 <mhall119> angeloc: no such thing as too old
20:52:20 <angeloc> popey, authorized right now, i'm in!
20:52:31 <popey> great
20:52:49 <popey> srxavi: was that you volunteering to look at image viewer?
20:52:57 <srxavi> sure :)
20:53:01 <lukaszgut> srxavi, i will have a look on pdf.js, that would be faster to prototype
20:53:02 <popey> awesome!
20:53:30 <srxavi> I think that was developed by the mozilla guys (and it's being used in Firefox)
20:54:42 <lukaszgut> srxavi, yeap, i'm cloning src right now
20:54:50 <popey> looking good as a starter... opening PDF, txt and images would be a good way to kick the viewer off..
20:55:07 <popey> we're running out of time..
20:55:12 <srxavi> wow
20:55:29 <angeloc> do think prewing also wiki formatted txt?
20:55:30 <popey> yeah, was only a 30 min slot
20:55:38 <srxavi> so I'll start prototyping an image viewer
20:55:48 <popey> angeloc: is that something you come across much?
20:55:59 <popey> surely the wiki engine renders it to html for you at the backend?
20:56:10 <angeloc> I find a really convenient writing documents in markdown, and use it very often on android
20:56:57 <angeloc> markdown is well established and supported by many javascript libraries
20:57:05 <popey> lets continue the discussion after the meeting ends in #ubuntu-touch or the mailing list... -> join this list if you're not already on it https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps
20:57:19 <popey> just wanted to mention two other things...
20:57:28 <popey> #topic milestones
20:57:54 <popey> We're setting a milestone for "alpha quality" of all core apps by May 16th.. which is 10 weeks away
20:58:05 <srxavi> ok
20:58:08 <popey> plenty of time I think to get a working version of the app..?
20:58:10 <mhall119> *only* 10 weeks
20:58:16 <lukaszgut> sounds reasonable
20:58:20 <popey> yes, sorry, _only_ 10 weeks :D
20:58:26 <srxavi> seems reasonable
20:58:27 <popey> finally...
20:58:29 <popey> #topic ppa
20:58:38 <popey> we have a PPA -> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily
20:58:49 <popey> every core app is built every day for amd64, x86 and armhf
20:59:03 <popey> which is awesome!
20:59:18 <popey> it means people can test out your code on their desktop and on their phone/tablet!
20:59:26 <srxavi> really cool
20:59:32 <popey> I'll post some more detail about the ppa to the list tomorrow morning
20:59:48 <popey> #topic any other business
21:00:20 <Jaffa> Evening
21:00:24 <popey> anything else people have questions or concerns about, as we're out of time, I'd recommend we take it to #ubuntu-touch or the mailing list at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps ..
21:00:28 <popey> hi Jaffa
21:00:34 <srxavi> perfect
21:00:54 <popey> but we're out of time.. thanks for helping get the work items nailed.. I'll send an update to the list in the morning!
21:01:01 <popey> thanks angeloc srxavi lukaszgut !
21:01:08 <popey> #endmeeting