#title #ubuntu-my: Perancangan Global Jam 2012 Meeting started by deensokmo at 13:58:35 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-my/2012/ubuntu-my.2012-02-26-13.58.log.html . == Meeting summary == Global Jam akan diadakan pada 4 March 2012 (deensokmo, 14:08:08) ''LINK:'' http://forums.ubuntu.com.my/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2499#p12277 (susahsebut, 14:14:03) Global Jam masa yg ditetapkan ialah 8am - 8pm (deensokmo, 14:34:32) ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology (deensokmo, 14:44:17) ''IDEA:'' cadanganku : translation,promotion,packaging (ak47suk1, 14:46:57) *explaining What Is Global Jam by susahsebut ''IDEA:'' Cadangan utk tema Global Jam: Packaging (PencintaKucing, 14:54:41) ''IDEA:'' tema Bugs ditolak sebab tiada Tutor berpengalaman (Fakrul, 15:04:51) Testing upgrades is not easy, as the differences in hardware configurations and state of the systems in the moment of upgrade, can raise corner cases that it is impossible to cover. (tajul, 15:05:25) tema installer (susahsebut, 15:10:15) kita ada bandwith yg unlimited (tajul, 15:11:04) ''LINK:'' http://altfa.com.my/v2/training-centre/facilities.html (susahsebut, 15:13:29) Malaysia local Ubuntu server http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/2yuEPhHzgXH9rYabFRFv (MakLaN, 15:19:33) ''LINK:'' https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+lang/ms (susahsebut, 15:26:13) ''IDEA:'' Mencadangkan ak47suk1 atau fairuz_ untuk tutor tema Packaging.. salah seorang atau kedua-duanya.. (PencintaKucing, 15:39:33) ''IDEA:'' Tema Packaging: saya cadangkan kedua2 fairuz_ (tutor secara online) serta ak47suk1 (PencintaKucing, 15:43:29) habis meeting kita kene bgtau daus @training@altfa.com.my (tajul, 15:55:01) 5 tajuk masa Ubuntu Global Jam (tajul, 15:58:45) ''IDEA:'' makan sendiri + pot luck (tajul, 16:13:24) pen + kertas perlu bawa juga (kot2 nak simple scatch/note pe2) (Fakrul, 16:15:54) tempat di Altfa Solution BAngi http://altfa.com.my/v2/contact-us.html (deensokmo, 16:19:15) tarikh 4Feb 2012 (deensokmo, 16:19:37) emel kepada training@altfa.com.my berkenaan masa dan tarikh (tajul, 16:19:57) Tarikh Global Jam: 4 Mac 2012 (8pagi - 8malam) (PencintaKucing, 16:20:18) tema 1 - upgrade (susahsebut, 16:20:20) tema 2 - dokumentasi (susahsebut, 16:20:30) tema 3 - terjemahan (susahsebut, 16:20:56) tema 4 - packaging (susahsebut, 16:21:08) tema 5 - lain-lain (susahsebut, 16:21:26) prerequisite all members must have launchpad id/account (ejat, 16:22:31) Meeting ended at 16:23:39 UTC. == Votes == * tema packaging For: 6 Against: 3 Abstained: 0 * tema lain-lain For: 8 Against: 0 Abstained: 0 * tema dokumentasi For: 5 Against: 0 Abstained: 1 * 2 pm - 8 pm For: 3 Against: 3 Abstained: 3 * 8am - 8pm For: 8 Against: 0 Abstained: 0 * tema upgrade For: 3 Against: 2 Abstained: 1 * tema installer For: 0 Against: 5 Abstained: 2 * upgrade, dokumentasi, packaging, terjemahan, lain-lain For: 4 Against: 1 Abstained: 0 * saing setiap tema For: 1 Against: 0 Abstained: 0 * tema terjemahan For: 5 Against: 2 Abstained: 1 * masa pejabat 8 am - 5 pm For: 1 Against: 2 Abstained: 5 * Global Jam akan diadakan pada 4 Feb 2012 For: 7 Against: 0 Abstained: 0 * tema bugs For: 0 Against: 9 Abstained: 0 == Action items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * susahsebut (310) * tajul (272) * meetingology (166) * deensokmo (149) * PencintaKucing (122) * darknite (73) * ak47suk1 (40) * MakLaN (35) * Fakrul (33) * fairuz_ (31) * [K]ucin[G] (17) * mfauzirahman (16) * ejat (7) * H-S (4) * rahman (3) * Izzuddin (3) * lubotu2 (2) * tiramisu (1) * zam89 (1) * abdrazak (1) == Full Log == 13:58:35 #startmeeting Perancangan Global Jam 2012 13:58:35 Meeting started Sun Feb 26 13:58:35 2012 UTC. The chair is deensokmo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 13:58:35 13:58:35 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 13:58:37 mcm mana nak on? 13:59:01 Selamat malam dan salam sejahtera.. 13:59:17 Assalamualaikum semua yg hadir pada mlm ini 13:59:21 wslm 13:59:22 wslm 13:59:24 wslm wbt 13:59:27 walaikumsalam wbt 13:59:29 wsalam 13:59:31 wslm 13:59:56 Yg berbahgian tuan ejat.. 14:00:05 ok, maaf mencelah.. 14:00:13 dan harap semua sekalian sihat.. 14:00:15 <[K]ucin[G]> waalaikumsalam.. 14:00:48 Pertama sekali sya mint maaf jika lambat menaip.. tapi say akan cuba laju-laju 14:00:53 kalau ada apa2 isu yg perlu ejat, kita 'petik' dia, dia akan alert, tapi dalam silent mode sbb tgh tgk wayang 14:01:14 ok..teruskan 14:02:11 Seperti yg kita sedia maklum.. Encik Daus telah bsetuju untuk menjadikan Alfa. sebagi tempat kita Global Jam 14:02:31 ok 14:02:37 Makluman ini kita perolahi drp en tajul.. 14:02:48 benar. 14:02:57 Terima kasih kpd en tajul keran berusaha ke arah ini 14:03:05 +1 tajul 14:03:05 jazakalah 14:03:07 toce sifu 14:03:41 Seterusnya.. 14:03:54 Kita mesti tentukan tarikh, biar official.. 14:04:09 maaf mencelah, kita dah decide 4hb kan? 14:04:12 bagi cadangan tarikh.. 14:04:18 betul pada meeting yang lepas 14:04:36 tak per biar jelas malam ini tarikh tersebut.. 14:04:43 sebab tuan pengerusi, kita tak boleh anjak, sebab tarikh tu je available 14:05:07 +1 4hb 14:05:10 1 hari sahaj la kalau gitu betul? 14:05:32 sebab 3hb ada CakePHP 14:05:35 maaf mencelah 4hb march kan? 14:05:36 #vote Global Jam akan diadakan pada 4 Feb 2012 14:05:36 Please vote on: Global Jam akan diadakan pada 4 Feb 2012 14:05:36 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 14:05:38 tempat yg sama 14:05:41 +1 14:05:41 +1 received from susahsebut 14:05:44 +1 14:05:44 +1 received from deensokmo 14:05:45 +1 14:05:45 +1 received from mfauzirahman 14:05:45 +1 14:05:45 +1 received from tajul 14:05:49 +1 14:05:49 +1 received from darknite 14:05:51 <[K]ucin[G]> +1 14:05:51 +1 received from [K]ucin[G] 14:06:00 +1 14:06:00 +1 received from H-S 14:06:14 #endvote 14:06:14 Voting ended on: Global Jam akan diadakan pada 4 Feb 2012 14:06:14 Votes for:7 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 14:06:14 Motion carried 14:06:44 4 feb ke 4 mac? pardon~~ 14:06:54 4 Mac 14:07:06 huhu aku pun x perasan 14:07:09 +1 H-S 14:07:15 terim kasih keran mengesan kesilapan 14:07:19 oo...sbb deensokmo cakap 4 feb 14:07:22 <[K]ucin[G]> +1 H-S .. typo.. 14:07:31 tu yg pelik 14:07:43 adlilwafi, join sekali 14:07:45 error noted...teruskan 14:07:51 ok, carry on 14:08:08 #info Global Jam akan diadakan pada 4 March 2012 14:08:37 sekarang ni kita putuskan pukul/jam.. 14:08:56 saya cadangkan di buat petang 14:08:58 encik tajul dah bincang ker dgn Daus.. agak masa tu 14:09:09 masa kita setuju untuk putuskan kemudian 14:09:16 ok... 14:09:17 belum deensokmo, tapi rasa, insyaAllah, takde masalah 14:09:18 sila bagi cadangan masa.. 14:09:35 pengerusi, tuan deensokmo, mintak masa jap nak call Daus 14:09:43 maksud saya kita bermula dan berakhir.. 14:10:09 adakah 2 jam.. 4 jam..? 14:10:10 kita tunggu tajul call daus 14:10:22 biasa ubuntu jem ni makan masa berapa lama? 5jam? 14:10:29 kalau ikut soalan saya pada tajul tadi dia kata unlimited 14:10:44 Saya tak pernah hadiri Global Jam 14:10:49 ubuntu jam bergantung pada tema yang kta ambil 14:11:04 kalau bugs - tengok pada report ada yang amek masa sehari suntuk 14:11:28 saya pun x pernah cuma baca report kat link2 yang say dah sediakan dalam forum dan wiki tu 14:11:34 Nanti kita vote utk pilih ttopik Global jam pulak.. 14:12:05 sementara tunggu respon tajul..kita teruskan 14:12:10 Terima kasih saudara susahsebut kerana bersusah untuk menyediakan angenda tersebut.. 14:12:26 sama2 14:12:46 +1 susahsebut 14:12:48 harap semua buka sekarang link yg susahsebut bagi tadi.. 14:13:39 kita perhatikan drp atas.. 14:13:58 baik deensokmo 14:14:03 http://forums.ubuntu.com.my/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2499#p12277 14:14:06 pada yang belum buka 14:14:18 tajuk tu.. pun salah bulan juga.. kan? Feb? 14:14:45 i'm back 14:14:47 kita tengok 1.1.. Penetapan masa untuk Ubuntu-MY Global Jam 14:15:01 tajul..so ape kata daus 14:15:05 daus takde masalah utk masa kita nak duduk tempat dia 14:15:21 wb MakLaN 14:15:22 Kita putuskan masa sekarang.. 14:15:36 cume, lepas abis meeting ni, kita kene shoot satu emel berkenaan tentatif kita pada 4hb tu 14:15:41 Assalamu'alaikum & hi 14:15:43 classroom muat 30 orang 14:15:49 wslm MakLaN 14:15:55 w'salam 14:15:56 wsalam 14:15:56 wslm MakLan 14:15:58 wslm 14:16:06 W;salam.. MakLan 14:16:27 sorry2 baru ingat 14:16:33 maknanya masa dari daus ialah unlimited 14:16:42 sila beri cadangan masa.. dr pukul berapa hingga pukul berapa.. 14:16:43 ya, masanya unlimited 14:16:50 cuma ikut waktu pejabat atau boleh lepas waktu pejabat tajul 14:16:50 walaikusamalm maklan 14:17:02 saya cadangankan 2 ptg sampai 8 malam 14:17:07 setahu aku...4 march tuh ari ahad 14:17:14 yup 14:17:18 yup 14:17:20 betul 4 hb Ahad.. 14:17:24 masa bukan hari darknite 14:17:31 masa pejabat 8-5pm 14:17:32 ok 14:17:44 cadangan lain 14:17:44 tu yg pelik bila cakap masa pejabat..haha 14:17:45 2-8pm +1 14:17:59 ada masa untuk aku dari johor ke kl 14:18:27 yg lain sila beri cadangan masa.. 1 org jer ni 14:18:58 saya setuju di buat 2-8pm 14:19:09 saya cadang juga 2 pm - 8 pm 14:19:18 kita kan mula vote 14:19:24 pengerusi deensokmo 14:19:28 jap2 14:19:39 ya tajul.. 14:19:43 awal sikit 12pm-8pm :) 14:19:57 kalau pagi tu, nak buat apa2 pun boleh, sebab bilik tu available utk kita 14:20:00 <[K]ucin[G]> 12pm - 6pm 14:20:19 ruang solat ada? 14:20:39 cadangan Kucing 12pm - 6 pm.. solat kita masa tu tula.. 14:20:49 saya rasa ada kot 14:20:57 sebab tu training centre 14:21:01 <[K]ucin[G]> kita jemaah kat dalam tu la.. amacam ? 14:21:08 bagus tue 14:21:10 takpe, utk mengelakkan kekeliruan, saya call daus jap 14:21:18 pengerusi, deensokmo, mintak masa jap 14:21:22 ok.. 14:21:29 ok 14:21:40 dah jumpa link. ada ruang solat -->http://altfa.com.my/v2/training-centre/facilities.html 14:21:43 saya rasa semua banguna center mcm tu ada tempat solat.. 14:22:15 daus dah kompomkan, ada ruang solat 14:22:35 kalau takde pun takpe, mcm kat hackerspace, kita solat je kat satu bilik dia 14:22:35 cantek 14:22:59 ok.. 14:23:28 #vote masa pejabat 8 am - 5 pm 14:23:28 Please vote on: masa pejabat 8 am - 5 pm 14:23:28 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 14:23:38 -1 14:23:38 -1 received from deensokmo 14:23:42 <[K]ucin[G]> -1 14:23:42 -1 received from [K]ucin[G] 14:23:44 +0 14:23:44 +0 received from fairuz_ 14:23:49 +0 14:23:49 +0 received from darknite 14:23:56 errr yang ni macaman boleh masuk vote? 14:24:04 +0 14:24:04 +0 received from susahsebut 14:24:09 +1 14:24:09 +1 received from tiramisu 14:24:11 +0 14:24:11 +0 received from tajul 14:24:15 tadi susahsebut yg cadangkan.. 14:24:20 +0 14:24:20 +0 received from Fakrul 14:24:23 <[K]ucin[G]> lol 14:24:29 maskdu say ialah center tu boleh guna lepas jam 5 petang ke? 14:24:33 ikut waktu pejabat 14:24:34 huhu 14:24:36 #endvote 14:24:36 Voting ended on: masa pejabat 8 am - 5 pm 14:24:36 Votes for:1 Votes against:2 Abstentions:5 14:24:36 Motion denied 14:25:11 #vote 2 pm - 8 pm 14:25:11 Please vote on: 2 pm - 8 pm 14:25:11 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 14:25:24 +1 14:25:24 +1 received from tajul 14:25:31 -1 14:25:31 -1 received from deensokmo 14:25:31 -1 14:25:31 -1 received from ak47suk1 14:25:41 -1 14:25:41 -1 received from darknite 14:25:46 +1 14:25:46 +1 received from mfauzirahman 14:25:54 <[K]ucin[G]> -1 14:25:54 -1 received from [K]ucin[G] 14:25:56 +1 14:25:56 +1 received from ak47suk1 14:25:57 +0 14:25:57 +0 received from H-S 14:26:01 6 jam? 2pm-8pm 14:26:04 +0 14:26:04 +0 received from Fakrul 14:26:06 +0 14:26:06 +0 received from susahsebut 14:26:22 #endvote 14:26:22 Voting ended on: 2 pm - 8 pm 14:26:22 Votes for:3 Votes against:3 Abstentions:3 14:26:22 Deadlock, casting vote may be used 14:26:34 deadlock! 14:26:46 apa tu tak faham.. 14:26:50 errr apa jadi kalau deaadlock ni 14:26:53 pengerusi 14:26:55 camni 14:27:10 deensokmo, aku cadangkan 8 pagi - 8 malam 14:27:19 makna kata, kita akan start keja pada pukul 2 ptg 14:27:30 8 pagi - 2 ptg tu brainstorm 14:27:38 hmmm 14:27:42 sebabnya, kita ada macam2 kekangan ni 14:27:55 kekangan sebab xde pengalaman ke? 14:28:02 bukan sebab takde pengalaman 14:28:07 oh sorry 14:28:09 sebab nak kumpul orh 14:28:13 *org 14:28:13 ingat sebab xde pengalaman buat jam 14:28:18 bukan sebab tu 14:28:20 sapa yg boleh datang awal, datang awal 14:28:23 ok..... 14:28:24 yaya 14:28:38 kalau ada yg balik awal? 14:28:41 kita nak kerja kita ada hasil, kualiti maksud saya 14:28:42 ada yang plan nak menginap malam sabtu ka? 14:28:50 kalau kita lama ---> takut stuck sesorang 14:29:02 kalau kejap --> tak de apa2 hasil 14:29:18 ada bantahan cadangan tajull.. 14:29:22 yg penting kita ada fokus dan ada something yg kita bawak 14:29:23 setuju selpas ulasan penuh tajul 14:29:35 <[K]ucin[G]> start 8 pagi, tapi tak wajib datang 8 pagi kan ? 14:29:35 me too 14:29:44 maaf pengerusi, deensokmo, kalau terpotong 14:29:54 tumpang tanye...kalau ada orang nk balik awal pulak macam mana tu 14:30:01 cadangan tajul ialah 8am - 8pm 14:30:10 sebab tu saya cadangkan panjang 14:30:20 yg nak balik awal, dpt jugak contribute something 14:30:29 saya paham, weekend, macam2 program 14:30:31 tak per.. kita memang tgh meeting.. so ini gunanya meeting.. 14:30:32 aa sebab jam, bukan kena stay dari awal sampai abis 14:30:37 kalau dapat stay , bagus 14:30:50 sumbang setakat yg mampu 14:30:56 +1 fairuz_ 14:31:01 setuju 14:31:10 +1 fairuz 14:31:20 klau semua dah clear kita vote.. ok 14:31:25 preparation utk makan, perlu pagi 14:31:33 supaya cepat siap, boleh start keje 14:31:35 tak kalut 14:31:50 kalau ada ramai pagi tu, kita boleh cerita backgriund kita 14:32:03 dan hala tuju kita wat event ini, dan event akan datang 14:32:19 +1 fairuz 14:32:19 +1 fairuz_ 14:32:20 kita tetapkan masa.. yg lain kemudian.. susahsebut log/save meeting ni.. 14:32:34 +1 deensokmo 14:32:36 ye saya dah kunci log meeting ini tuan deensokmo 14:32:55 #vote 8am - 8pm 14:32:55 Please vote on: 8am - 8pm 14:32:55 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 14:32:56 +1 deensokmo 14:32:56 +1 deensokmo received from darknite 14:33:00 +1 14:33:00 +1 received from susahsebut 14:33:01 +1 14:33:01 +1 received from fairuz_ 14:33:05 +1 14:33:05 +1 received from deensokmo 14:33:10 +1 14:33:10 +1 received from tajul 14:33:15 +1 14:33:15 +1 received from mfauzirahman 14:33:17 +1 14:33:17 +1 received from H-S 14:33:33 +1 14:33:33 +1 received from ak47suk1 14:33:47 [K]ucin[G], ? 14:34:00 #endvote 14:34:00 Voting ended on: 8am - 8pm 14:34:00 Votes for:8 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 14:34:00 Motion carried 14:34:32 #info Global Jam masa yg ditetapkan ialah 8am - 8pm 14:34:49 PING 1330216882152342 14:34:51 ok.. setrusnya.. 14:34:51 <[K]ucin[G]> sory, baru prasan, taip dah, tapi dah endvote.. hehe.. padam balik la :P 14:35:17 tu la [K]ucin[G] jangan dating masa meeting :p 14:35:22 <[K]ucin[G]> sms je :P 14:35:26 majoiriti adalah setuju.. ok 14:35:27 saya menyeru yg lain utk masuk sama meeting 14:35:35 rasa ramai kat sebelah ni ---> 14:35:37 xpe kucing...kalau ko vote...majoiriti adalah setuju 14:35:52 <[K]ucin[G]> a'ah.. aku pon cuma tambah satu lagi +1 je :P 14:35:58 betul tu tajul time vote sume senyap je. 14:36:12 ok 14:36:17 teruskan 14:36:22 ok kita teruskan.. 14:36:25 <[K]ucin[G]> cuba kick semua tengok brapa ramai masuk balik :P 14:36:27 kena cepat ni.. 14:36:44 pack mana yg kita nak ambik utk jam kali ni? 14:37:05 Penetapan untuk tema yang akan dipilih dari semua tema Global Jam yang ada 14:37:12 ok 14:37:18 ok 14:37:26 ada maps ke? 14:37:32 sbb xpernah pegi alfa 14:37:37 takut sesat 14:37:45 kita tumpu ada agenda dulu darknite 14:37:47 sila ke link tadi.. ada beberapa sub topik disitu.. 14:37:54 ok 14:37:55 <[K]ucin[G]> saya cadangkan packaging 14:38:32 ping ejat untuk jadi instructor 14:38:48 tutor 14:38:50 susahsebut: aku send BBM kat dia, utk alert 14:39:05 kalau ejat ok boleh kot amek packaging 14:39:07 semua topik ini.. kena tanya ejat.. 14:39:24 ada juga yang tak perlu tuan pengerusio 14:39:27 macam testing 14:39:27 tak semestinya, deensokmo 14:39:34 testing tak perlu tutor 14:39:36 <[K]ucin[G]> translation tak perlu kot.. 14:39:40 siapa yg pernah hadiri.. 14:39:41 <[K]ucin[G]> boleh conduct sniri je.. 14:39:45 aku cadangkan translation 14:39:52 +1 [K]ucin[G] - susah nak tag nama hang 14:39:55 boleh tak tuan deensokmo, kita lantik volunteer utk tajuk2 ni 14:40:08 <[K]ucin[G]> hahahaha.. 14:40:09 supaya kita dpt tgk sapa nak wat apa 14:40:16 volunteer untuk mengetuai setiap tajuk yang terpilih ye tajul 14:40:17 encik tajul tolong handle boleh 14:40:26 +1 susahsebut 14:40:29 bagi chair kat tajul 14:40:34 alamak 14:40:41 saya terover ke tuan deensokmo 14:40:42 tuan pengerusi untuk sementara bagi topik ini 14:40:44 adei 14:40:49 maafkan saya 14:40:51 :( 14:41:11 susahsebut sila chair kepada tajul 14:41:31 * Fakrul mohon maaf laptop abis batreri 14:42:01 #chair tajul 14:42:13 wei, aku tak pernah handle meeting 14:42:15 deensokmo, kena buat kot sebab tuan yang start meeting 14:42:24 deensokmo: mintak tuan carry on 14:43:08 #chair tajul 14:43:08 Current chairs: deensokmo tajul 14:43:14 yes! 14:43:17 +1 14:43:24 +1 14:43:28 dah makin paham meetingologu command 14:43:38 teruskan tajul.. 14:43:51 how to start? 14:43:55 adei 14:43:56 :) 14:44:06 takpe, aku carry on 14:44:06 start dengan cadangan volunteer tadi 14:44:13 Aku tak banyak boleh campur, sebab mmg tak dapat menurunkan diri.. kui kui 14:44:17 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 14:44:32 thanks deensokmo 14:44:56 * Fakrul sama ngan MakLaN, tak dapat hadir 14:45:00 teruskan.. teruskan.. huhuhu.. 14:45:10 saya nak mintak pendapat tuan2 semua, sama ada kita nak fokus a few subject or, only 1 subject 14:45:28 ramai ahli ada tapi ramai yg diam sebelah ini ------> 14:45:44 sy ada... 14:45:50 a few subject 14:46:00 teruskan... 14:46:03 sayy nak tanya.. kalau kita ambik semua, tapi tak dapat selesaikan semua tu atau sebahagian sahaja apa yg akan berlaku? 14:46:03 berapa orang dalam meeting ni penah join ubuntu jem? 14:46:04 pendapat saya kita boleh ambil lebih subject tapi pada yang mudah je dulu sebab ni 1st time kita buat jam 14:46:14 cadanganku : translation,promotion,packaging, 14:46:22 ok kawan2 14:46:37 advocacy tu lagi mudah.. 14:46:41 tapi perlukan masa skit la.. 14:46:43 boleh tak kita mintak supaya susahsebut explain brief pasai Global Jam 14:46:48 !help meetingology 14:46:48 ak47suk1: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) 14:46:52 atau, saudara PencintaKucing? 14:46:57 #idea cadanganku : translation,promotion,packaging 14:47:20 * PencintaKucing n00b.. :( 14:47:27 ak47suk1: boleh explain dulu pasai Global Jam 14:47:36 cuma agak paham maksud advocacy tu je.. tapi advocacy tu dok dalam Others.. 14:47:39 motif dan apa yg kita nak achieve 14:47:59 motif berbeza mengikut tema 14:47:59 !help meetingology 14:48:00 PencintaKucing: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) 14:48:17 apa yang nak achieve pun mengikut tema 14:48:32 ok susahsebut. Anda sedang jelaskan ke ni? 14:48:36 still x faham... 14:48:38 kalau bugs - untuk bugs triaging. solutions. untuk latih ubuntu user tentang bugs 14:48:44 #commands 14:48:44 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 14:48:46 * darknite xpaham 14:48:48 boleh teruskan, kawan2 kita bagi attention pada susahsebut 14:48:50 supaya bugs report lebih tersusun kurangnya duplicated bugs 14:49:06 ok 14:49:08 dan juga penyelesaian bugs tersebut 14:49:11 itu untuk bugs 14:49:39 #topic explaining What Is Global Jam by susahsebut 14:49:50 untuk testing installer - untuk memastikan tiada masalah pada installer. cuma info kat ubuntu jam tentang installer ni agak obselete 14:49:57 sebab masih sebut 11.10 14:50:03 atau memang masih fokus 11.10 14:50:05 nit sure 14:50:33 untuk upgrade pula fokus pada pelbagai jenis upgrade 14:50:54 dari 10.04>11.10, 11.04 > 11.10, 10.04 > 12.04 etc 14:51:23 motif untuk report sebarang masalah mengikut jenis upgrade yang berbeza2 tersebut 14:51:33 ok.. 14:51:34 nak celah sikit, bagaiamana yg kit akira kesudahan salah satu topik ini utk Global Jam? 14:51:51 deensokmo: good question 14:51:59 susahsebut: ble explain? 14:52:02 bila kita berjaya capai motif mengikut setiap tema 14:52:24 masih blur.. 14:52:27 walaupun sikit yang penting berjaya capai. - mengikut tema yang kita pilih 14:52:32 kita buat takat termampu 14:52:36 ok. 14:52:46 sekarang, saya nak start vote 14:52:52 utk capai persetujuan 14:52:59 contoh nye selesaikan 1 bug? 14:53:00 susahsebut, contohnya ? amik tema bug.. adakah dikira tercapai objektif jam apabila selesaikan even just satu bug ? 14:53:17 untuk bug kena ada tutor 14:53:22 maybe boleh set objektif.. Contoh packaging, boleh kira capai objektif kalau berjaya upload ppa dan build tanpa error 14:53:25 team yg datang maksufnyer tolong selesaikan bugs? atau send bugs to Canonical? 14:53:26 tutor kena orang yang berpengalaman dalam bugs 14:53:34 bug tu maybe boleh set untuk n bugs 14:53:36 baru boleh tercapai motif 14:53:38 n tu boleh ditentukan la 14:53:41 contoh untuk upgrade jam 14:53:41 kita dah berjaya test untuk 10.04> 12.04 dan11.10>12.04 14:53:41 sebagai contoh 14:54:06 ok, boleh tak supaya dalam global jam ni, kita fix bugs dalam komuniti kita? 14:54:19 kita yg dimaksudkan siapa tu.. ? 14:54:20 yang tu not sure tajul 14:54:28 cthnya, masalah web kita, forum + wiki 14:54:34 tapi kalau baca kat ubuntu jam tu macam spesifik untuk ubuntu dan apps 14:54:38 sapa pandai dalam bug untuk jadi tutor? 14:54:41 #idea Cadangan utk tema Global Jam: Packaging 14:54:55 aku ada experience dalam translation je setakat ni 14:54:59 minta semua bersabar kita bincangkan satu2 14:55:10 sebelum tu, saya nak lantik utk jadi amir/ketua utk handle Global Jam 14:55:28 ok.. aku tukar chair kepada susahsebut 14:55:41 mintak tukar chair deensokmo 14:55:52 errr.... xpe la saya cuba 14:56:03 kalo rasa nak yg mudah2 sebab ni 1st global jam ubuntu-my, pendapat aku la, kita amik dari Others.. 14:56:18 kat dalam Others, semua yg simple task.. tak melibatkan IT sgt sebenarnye.. 14:56:19 #unchair tajul 14:56:19 Current chairs: deensokmo 14:56:23 +1 PencintaKucing 14:57:02 saper nak chair tajuk ni 14:57:10 mintak susahsebut 14:57:15 dia lebih arif nampaknya 14:57:20 saya cadangkan susahsebut 14:57:20 susahsebut ok? 14:57:23 saya cuba - maaf kalau kurang memuaskan 14:57:35 #chair susahsebut 14:57:35 Current chairs: deensokmo susahsebut 14:57:58 minta izin semua 14:58:08 pada saya untuk memudahkan perbincangan 14:58:14 silakan susahsebut 14:58:15 kita mula dari satu persatu tema 14:58:24 tema pertama BUGS 14:58:28 ok teruskan.. satu persatu.. 14:58:48 untuk bugs ni ada sebarang soalan selain dari yang dah saya terangkan tadi (dari bacaan saya saja) 14:58:49 ok 14:59:21 bugs ini difokuskan kepada ubuntu 11.10 sahaja ker... 15:00:05 jam selalunya fokus pada current alpha 15:00:10 To properly confirm bugs (and test fixes) on the current development release, ask the jammers to set up one of the methods on UsingDevelopmentReleases. 15:00:16 maknanya 12.04 15:00:21 yep 15:00:29 ok 15:00:32 ada lain soalan? 15:01:09 honestly say, saya tidak ada skill yg lebih utk tajuk yg lebih techie 15:01:11 ok.. faham skit.. 15:01:15 takut tak dapat nak fokus ke situ 15:01:15 cuma masalah kalau kita nak pilih bugs sebagai tema - tiada yang volunteer sebagai tutor 15:01:41 utk bantu2 boleh, kene ada style mentor-mentee gitu 15:01:43 jadi saya rasa kita mungkin terpaksa ketepikan tema bugs untuk kali ini 15:01:51 bagaimanapun lebih baik kita vote 15:01:54 bagaimana semua? 15:02:23 ok susahsebut mula vote 15:02:25 setuju 15:02:45 !vote Tema bugs 15:02:58 eh, macamana command dia 15:03:09 #vote tema bugs 15:03:09 Please vote on: tema bugs 15:03:09 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 15:03:09 11.30.. aku kena out.. ada hal.. nanti aku kena tukarkan org.. 15:03:10 #vote 15:03:24 -1 15:03:24 -1 received from susahsebut 15:03:26 -1 15:03:26 -1 received from tajul 15:03:28 -1 15:03:28 -1 received from deensokmo 15:03:32 -1 15:03:32 -1 received from MakLaN 15:03:35 -1 15:03:35 -1 received from PencintaKucing 15:03:35 -1 15:03:35 -1 received from darknite 15:03:36 -1 15:03:36 -1 received from Fakrul 15:03:46 -1 15:03:46 -1 received from fairuz_ 15:03:51 -1 15:03:51 -1 received from rahman 15:04:04 ada lagi? 15:04:10 #endvote 15:04:10 Voting ended on: tema bugs 15:04:10 Votes for:0 Votes against:9 Abstentions:0 15:04:10 Motion denied 15:04:24 ok kita ke tema seterusnya iaitu installer 15:04:31 keterangan ringkas ialah 15:04:51 #idea tema Bugs ditolak sebab tiada Tutor berpengalaman 15:04:56 terangkan secara ringkas utk tajuk2 ini.. 15:05:12 kemudian terus vote.. 15:05:15 pakai #info lagi sesuai kot :P 15:05:25 #info Testing upgrades is not easy, as the differences in hardware configurations and state of the systems in the moment of upgrade, can raise corner cases that it is impossible to cover. 15:05:43 kita test installer dan apps untuk developper version. 15:05:45 ada 2 jenis 15:06:20 satu installer > ubiquity, wubi dan alternate. > yang ni kena run dalam vm atau live boot (live boot kalau tak silap) 15:06:44 lagi satu apps dengan menggunakan system testing 15:06:58 ada sebarang soalan selain dari keterangan ringkas ni? 15:07:20 dari bacaan saya dlam tajuk 'Upgrades'.. 15:07:36 kita kene ada bandwith yg besaq, sebab semua akan upgrade 15:07:45 sudah faham.. 15:07:52 betul tajul 15:07:58 tapi kita tengah bincang installer 15:08:02 dan elok ada local Mirror 15:08:08 lo, sorry, silap 15:08:11 adei maaf susahsebut 15:08:12 Testing Installer ni aku -1 kecuali ada ramai yg expert pasal Ubiquity, Wubi ni.. 15:08:26 (cemana tersilap) 15:08:29 tiada soalan maka kita start vote 15:08:39 #vote tema installer 15:08:39 Please vote on: tema installer 15:08:39 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 15:08:43 -1 15:08:43 -1 received from PencintaKucing 15:08:48 -1 15:08:48 -1 received from susahsebut 15:08:55 -1 15:08:55 -1 received from deensokmo 15:09:14 +0 15:09:14 +0 received from fairuz_ 15:09:24 -1 15:09:24 -1 received from darknite 15:09:28 -1 15:09:28 -1 received from ak47suk1 15:09:45 ada lagi vote? 15:09:48 +0 15:09:48 +0 received from tajul 15:09:54 #endvote 15:09:54 Voting ended on: tema installer 15:09:54 Votes for:0 Votes against:5 Abstentions:2 15:09:54 Motion denied 15:10:15 #info tema installer 15:10:24 ok 15:10:27 ok, seterusnya 15:10:29 upgrade 15:10:40 macam yang disebut tajul tadi perlu bandwith yang besar 15:10:51 dan paling bagus ada local mirror 15:10:57 atau squid proxy 15:11:04 #info kita ada bandwith yg unlimited 15:11:13 line altfa yang disediakan hanya 4mb 15:11:40 4mb? 15:11:46 20mbps kan ? 15:11:54 dia ada cakap kat fb aritu.. 15:12:09 sila pastikan mengenai bandwidth 15:12:20 unlimited x pasti cuma saya baca di sini http://altfa.com.my/v2/training-centre/facilities.html 15:12:23 kalau upgrade ni kena buat awal, sebab makan masa 15:12:25 maaf semua.. aku kena tidurkan anak2.. mcmanae nak keluar chair dan ganti org lain..? 15:12:26 saya yang silap kefahaman maybe 15:12:35 #chair tajul 15:12:35 Current chairs: deensokmo susahsebut tajul 15:12:47 ok deensokmo aku ada akses ke meetingology 15:12:49 dengan tajul 15:12:52 ok 15:13:10 #chair tajul 15:13:10 Current chairs: deensokmo susahsebut tajul 15:13:16 tajul, dah tengok ke link tu? 15:13:25 link mana? 15:13:29 http://altfa.com.my/v2/training-centre/facilities.html 15:13:32 oo 15:13:40 sebab aku terpikir, dia kata unlimited 15:13:49 minta maaf.. semua.. aku tak log out.. cuma tiada depan PC.. 15:13:53 saya salah dengar atau salah faham 15:13:57 ok deensokmo kitorang faham 15:13:59 :) 15:14:09 ok deensokmo 15:14:12 terima kasih sebad jadi pengerusi tadi 15:14:20 *sebab 15:14:42 rasanya terperasan juga dia post unlimited 20mb 15:14:44 kat fb 15:14:51 jadi bagaimana tajul 15:15:05 mungkin yg 4mbps ni utk org yg nak sewa tempat tu.. 15:15:11 tapi dalam tu ada jugak line 20mbps.. 15:15:16 sebab dia mentioned tadi kat saya, unlimited 15:15:17 so, utk kita, dia bagi la access 20mbps.. 15:15:24 ok2 15:15:26 just my 2 kupang.. better confirmkan la.. 15:15:43 yang tu kemudian pun xpe kot. kita vote untuk tema ni 15:15:49 okay 15:15:50 -1 15:15:50 bagaimana tajul dan yang lain2? 15:15:53 eh, belom eh ? :P 15:16:02 #vote tema upgrade 15:16:02 Please vote on: tema upgrade 15:16:02 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 15:16:05 -1 15:16:05 -1 received from PencintaKucing 15:16:26 -1 15:16:26 -1 received from darknite 15:16:26 yang lain? 15:16:37 +1 15:16:37 +1 received from MakLaN 15:16:49 +0 15:16:49 +0 received from fairuz_ 15:17:01 +1 15:17:01 +1 received from susahsebut 15:17:18 tajul, 15:17:21 jap 15:17:23 * PencintaKucing poke ak47suk1 15:17:25 tg cakap ngan daus 15:17:30 oh ok 15:17:30 ok 15:17:39 kene vote ye, jap 15:17:41 +1 15:17:41 +1 received from tajul 15:17:46 lol 15:17:57 skrg katanya 20MB bandwith unlimited 15:18:09 lagi, ak47suk1 Izzuddin 15:18:12 tanya dia pasal 4mbps tu camna lak ? 15:18:20 #endvote 15:18:20 Voting ended on: tema upgrade 15:18:20 Votes for:3 Votes against:2 Abstentions:1 15:18:20 Motion carried 15:18:32 nasib baik tak deadlock :p 15:18:35 dia bagi kita 20MB 15:18:45 tadi aku je 15:18:47 ok seterusnya dokumentasi 15:18:48 haha 15:19:01 yang ni rasanya semua faham kot 15:19:06 berkaitan ubuntu wiki 15:19:10 dan docs 15:19:10 yup 15:19:17 jadi terus ke vote? 15:19:19 dokumentasi pon kena clear gak objektif.. 15:19:24 yup 15:19:25 objektif camna ? 15:19:33 #info Malaysia local Ubuntu server http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/2yuEPhHzgXH9rYabFRFv 15:19:33 fully documented ke camna ? 15:19:34 :P 15:19:55 # info ada 2 jenis dokumentasi 1. Sys DOcs 2. Wiki Docs 15:20:05 System Documentation - the documentation which comes with every Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Edubuntu system. It includes the Ubuntu Server Guide. 15:20:06 Wiki Documentation - the help wiki is a community edited resource that anyone can edit. 15:20:10 nampak senang, tapi susah 15:20:17 yang ni pun kena ada tutor 15:20:20 kerja mudah, tapi remeh 15:20:21 memang susah ni 15:20:26 kena join docs team 15:20:28 yang ni susahsebut boleh jadi tutor :P 15:20:47 tapi kat Malaysia kita kurang, so kita rasa ni tak leh gugur 15:20:49 hehe x sesuai kot 15:20:50 kita kene buat 15:20:54 wiki malaysia boleh la 15:20:59 wiki terutama untuk server guide byk yg obsolete 15:21:23 yang ni kalau yg biasa troubleshoot kat fb ubuntu-my boleh bantu :D 15:21:51 jadi kita vote ya 15:22:01 ya 15:22:04 #vote tema dokumentasi 15:22:04 Please vote on: tema dokumentasi 15:22:04 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 15:22:11 +1 15:22:11 +1 received from tajul 15:22:17 +1 15:22:17 +1 received from ak47suk1 15:22:24 +1 15:22:24 +1 received from darknite 15:22:25 +1 15:22:25 +1 received from susahsebut 15:22:25 +0 15:22:25 +0 received from PencintaKucing 15:22:27 +1 15:22:27 +1 received from MakLaN 15:22:46 tiada lagi? 15:22:57 #endvote 15:22:57 Voting ended on: tema dokumentasi 15:22:57 Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1 15:22:57 Motion carried 15:23:17 seterusnya ke penterjemahan 15:23:32 yang ni untuk 11.10 dah clear translation 15:24:00 clear translation? 15:24:02 ok 15:24:05 maksudnya? 15:24:06 hmmm 15:24:07 susahsebut maksudnya? 15:24:11 so translation nie utk version berapa 15:24:12 untuk 12.04? 15:24:12 11.10 dah translate abih ke ? 15:24:29 kejap cek balik launchpad 15:24:48 rasa aku translation tu kena approved satu2 15:25:13 aku tak sure sapa yg ada kuasa utk approve translation 15:25:14 wb mfauzirahman 15:25:40 SORRY 15:26:12 lupa bila last masuk tapi masa tu belum ada untuk 12.04 15:26:13 https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+lang/ms 15:26:23 masih ada banyak untk translate' 15:26:41 yang ada kuasa ketua translation team 15:26:48 aPOGEE dengan mypapit 15:26:54 bergantung pada team yang dijoin 15:27:01 apogee tak de? 15:27:09 mypapit 15:27:10 Bulu leadernya GafieldWTF 15:27:16 sekarang dah tak tau sape 15:27:19 sorry guysfamily matter... 15:27:22 *dulu 15:27:28 erm 15:27:37 aku ada cadangan 15:27:47 susahsebut: ko masih pending? 15:27:56 my papit team not sure why tapi permohonan aku untuk masuk team mypapit tak diluluskan walau dah berkurun 15:28:11 lo 15:28:13 nanti aku petik dia 15:28:19 eh mypapit ke tu mohd hafiz ismail? 15:28:19 takut dia tak kena; 15:28:32 *kenal 15:28:41 takpe, kita carry on meeting dulu 15:28:51 ok, kita vote untuk translation 15:28:51 terjemahan -1 15:28:59 #vote tema terjemahan 15:28:59 Please vote on: tema terjemahan 15:28:59 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 15:29:10 -1 15:29:10 -1 received from darknite 15:29:12 +1 15:29:12 +1 received from MakLaN 15:29:12 -1 15:29:12 -1 received from PencintaKucing 15:29:28 +1 15:29:28 +1 received from fairuz_ 15:29:31 +0 x tau app\a2 15:29:31 +0 x tau app\a2 received from mfauzirahman 15:29:31 +1 sebab senang :p 15:29:31 +1 sebab senang :p received from susahsebut 15:30:26 semua dah vote ke 15:30:33 belum 15:30:38 tajul, 15:30:40 sape lagik 15:30:41 +1 15:30:41 +1 received from ak47suk1 15:30:44 sat 15:31:09 +1 15:31:09 +1 received from tajul 15:31:13 #endvote 15:31:13 Voting ended on: tema terjemahan 15:31:13 Votes for:5 Votes against:2 Abstentions:1 15:31:13 Motion carried 15:31:17 tgh chat ngan daus 15:31:36 kemudian kita ke packaging 15:31:42 ping ejat untuk ini 15:31:59 ok, aku BBM ejat 15:32:04 tajul, bbm ejat kot. dia setuju ke untuk jadi tutor? 15:32:10 sebelum tu aku ada cadangan untuk lokalisasi a.k.a terjemahan 15:32:12 ok, sat 15:32:18 silakan MakLaN 15:32:26 erm sebaiknya 15:32:32 sementara tajul cek dangan ejat 15:32:32 waktu jam nanti 15:32:59 kita fokuskan pada sesebuah aplikasi dulu 15:33:02 maksudnya 15:33:21 mungkin terjemahkan menu ke 15:33:25 sebab 15:33:37 berdasarkan pengalaman aku 15:33:43 +1 MakLaN 15:33:44 banyak benda yang diterjemah 15:33:48 tapi tak habis 15:33:56 sayang lah macam tu 15:34:03 kerja separuh jalan 15:34:17 mungkin 15:34:22 nanti kita bincang hal tu 15:34:26 untuk permulaan 15:34:36 tapi skrg tajuk packaging ke cemana susahsebut? 15:34:48 si ejat tak reply plak 15:34:49 ye sekarang tajuk packaging'macamana ejat? 15:35:06 kalau kita vote setuju dia tak sanggup nak tutor kang susah pulak 15:35:31 bagaimana pandangan semua? 15:35:36 dia tak beran katanya 15:35:42 "aku tak gheti" 15:35:49 mesejnye 15:36:06 jadi bagaimana? mau teruskan vote? 15:36:14 ada yang pandai packaging? 15:36:39 tak 15:36:45 x 15:36:46 packaging tu.. mungkin banyak cabang tajuk lkagi dibawahnya.. 15:36:54 wb deensokmo 15:37:00 sama2.. 15:37:06 PencintaKucing? 15:37:18 ye ? 15:37:29 sory, tgh karang email tadi.. 15:37:36 tgh bincang pasal apa eh.. jap baca. 15:38:04 packaging 15:38:08 owh.. packaging.. 15:38:10 oleh kerana rata2 kita baru firstime.. ambil yg mudah dahulu.. setidak-tidaknya kita buat juga.. 15:38:17 +1 deensokmo 15:38:17 aku nak belajo meh, bukan nak tutor.. 15:38:18 hehehe.. 15:38:22 tapi fairuz terer kan.. 15:38:27 ak47suk1 pon okay gak.. 15:38:34 +1 ak47suk1 ngan fairuz 15:38:34 ping fairuz dan ak47suk1 15:38:40 fairuz_, 15:38:50 #cadang ak47suk1 / PencintaKucing 15:38:56 oit.. 15:38:57 Ubuntu adalah sebuah komuniti.. kita tidak dibayar.. utk profit tertentu.. so buat apa yg termampu.. 15:39:04 ak47suk1 ngan fairuz_ la.. 15:39:05 adehh.. 15:39:18 den x teror 15:39:26 pong 15:39:33 #idea Mencadangkan ak47suk1 atau fairuz_ untuk tutor tema Packaging.. salah seorang atau kedua-duanya.. 15:39:43 fairuz_ tipu! 15:39:48 ApOgEE pernah guide secara am aku.. pasal ubuntu-my ni.. 15:39:49 packaging ni memang perlu tutor 15:40:00 yup susahsebut 15:40:10 tapi kalau kita boleh bermula, at least 15:40:10 kena ikut kerelaan... 15:40:15 kalau xde yang nak volunteer rasanya kita terpaksa ketepikan 15:40:17 mmg semua tak mengaku tere 15:40:24 but we need vplunteer 15:40:29 jadi silakan siapa yang nak jadi sukarela 15:40:40 Aku tak pegi jam tu 15:41:07 agak kalau lalu IRC boleh ke? sebab fairuz_ x available di malaysia 15:41:17 PencintaKucing: tipu ape tu 15:41:30 packaging aku tak pernah build kat launchpad 15:41:33 si ak47suk1penah buat packaging utk projek My1OS / FIMOS 15:41:34 fairuz_ bukan terer ke packaging ? 15:41:42 ping ak47suk1 15:41:49 ak47suk1 !! ak47suk1 !! ak47suk1 !! 15:41:51 setahu aku ejat penah build launchpad 15:42:30 PencintaKucing: mana terer.. baru upload 2 package je :( 15:42:41 aku pernah package local je 15:42:49 saya cadangkan fairuz_ 15:43:02 * fairuz_ tak available kat malaysia 15:43:05 kita try, jgn reject, sayang rasa 15:43:07 ikut architecture + versi distro yg aku pakai. 15:43:12 fairuz_, anda bersetuju? 15:43:16 saya cadangkan kedua2 fairuz_ (tutor secara online) serta ak47suk1 15:43:18 ok .. kita pendekkan perkara packaging ini.. rasa semua mcm sanggup tak tak tahu bermula.. hanya ejat shj yg pernah buat.. jadi aku akan tolak.. 15:43:22 susahsebut: through IRC? 15:43:29 #idea Tema Packaging: saya cadangkan kedua2 fairuz_ (tutor secara online) serta ak47suk1 15:43:36 ye, ko dengan ak47suk1 15:43:41 +1 15:43:44 boleh? 15:43:48 fairuz_ thru IRC dibenarkan.. bleh rujuk wiki ubuntu.. 15:43:49 kita boleh start packaging a simpe helloworld app 15:43:49 kita vote 15:43:55 takyah package app besar2 15:44:01 +1 fairuz_ 15:44:04 yang simpel je jangan banyak2 process 15:44:06 mual vote susahsebut 15:44:08 * ak47suk1 tido dulu ya. good night. :)) 15:44:12 mulakan.. 15:44:18 ak47suk1, setuju ke? 15:44:37 fairuz_ sorang eh. 15:44:40 ok start vote 15:44:48 #vote tema packaging 15:44:48 Please vote on: tema packaging 15:44:48 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 15:44:51 -1 15:44:51 -1 received from deensokmo 15:44:54 +1 15:44:54 +1 received from PencintaKucing 15:44:54 +1 15:44:54 +1 received from tajul 15:44:56 +1 15:44:56 +1 received from darknite 15:44:56 -1 15:44:56 -1 received from MakLaN 15:45:09 +1 15:45:09 +1 received from fairuz_ 15:45:13 +1 15:45:13 +1 received from mfauzirahman 15:45:14 +1 nak jugak tengok walau tak paham code 15:45:14 +1 nak jugak tengok walau tak paham code received from susahsebut 15:45:16 -1 15:45:16 -1 received from rahman 15:45:31 hehe rahman baru muncul 15:45:32 pasal code jgn risau kot, aku try buat kod satu line je 15:45:33 code pakai php ke java? 15:45:41 #endvote 15:45:41 Voting ended on: tema packaging 15:45:41 Votes for:6 Votes against:3 Abstentions:0 15:45:41 Motion carried 15:45:41 ade je.. hihi 15:45:42 pakai C la sng 15:45:47 ok 15:45:55 * darknite kurang mahir C 15:46:01 pakai apa2 pon takpa, yg penting aku nak belajar.. 15:46:01 :D 15:46:04 ok, sekarang ke tmea others 15:46:10 yang ni paling mudah 15:46:29 tapi memandangkan yang join jam ni sume ahli ubuntu-my yang dah memang pengguna tegar ubuntu 15:46:36 rasanya tak valid kot 15:46:41 ok 15:46:44 lain la kalau buat kat tempat apisznasdin 15:46:47 pendapat aku laa 15:46:47 others such? 15:46:56 promoting ubuntu, advocacy 15:47:14 saya gune virtualbox saje utk ubuntu 15:47:15 tak juga susahsebut.. walaupun.. 15:47:41 kita kena masukkan aku rasa 15:47:44 pengguna tegar.. kita kena susunkan startegi mencari pengguna baru.. bergabung idea.. 15:47:45 tapi last sekali 15:47:49 bile semua dah abis 15:47:53 * PencintaKucing debian :P 15:47:57 kalau *abis 15:48:09 ok kita vote kemudian kita go thorugh semula untuk setup volunteer ketua setiap tema 15:48:15 semua nanti kena pitch kat aku.. sampai boleh closing :P 15:48:20 #vote tema lain-lain 15:48:20 Please vote on: tema lain-lain 15:48:20 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 15:48:26 +1 15:48:26 +1 received from tajul 15:48:28 +1 15:48:28 +1 received from darknite 15:48:30 +1 15:48:30 +1 received from deensokmo 15:48:32 +1 15:48:32 +1 received from PencintaKucing 15:48:36 +1 15:48:36 +1 received from susahsebut 15:48:44 lagi? 15:48:45 +1 15:48:45 +1 received from MakLaN 15:48:48 tadi ramai je vote 15:48:48 +1 15:48:48 +1 received from Fakrul 15:48:54 Katie-Debian? 15:49:00 +1 15:49:00 +1 received from ak47suk1 15:49:01 bot je tu.. 15:49:12 ramai xvote nie 15:49:17 a'a 15:49:21 #endvote 15:49:21 Voting ended on: tema lain-lain 15:49:21 Votes for:8 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 15:49:21 Motion carried 15:49:44 tajul..adakah mereka park nick saje ataupun macam mana? 15:50:03 macam park je ni, takpe, kita continue lagi 15:50:05 ok sekarang kita ada 7 tema untuk dihabiskan dalam sehari 15:50:12 7 tema ?! 15:50:17 apsal byk sgt ? 15:50:21 sorry' 15:50:21 saya nak tanya, kaedah kita cemana 15:50:26 terkira yang tak dipilih sekali 15:50:28 =.= 15:50:28 paralel or series 15:50:30 ada 4 tema 15:50:47 parallel ngan series tu camna eh ? 15:50:50 tajul sy tak faham soalan 15:50:54 better series 15:50:55 ce expelin sikik.. 15:51:07 +1 PencintaKucing 15:51:09 4 tema dlm senarai Global Jam.. betulker 15:51:14 nanti sesi kita nak dibahagikan atau nak kumpulkan? 15:51:16 tajul tanya nak buat satu persatu atau semua in paralel 15:51:27 saya cadangkan bahagikan 15:51:30 series kot 15:51:43 kalau parallel tak dapat pengalaan dalam sume tema 15:51:50 nanti nak buat lain kali kurang best 15:51:56 * darknite ikut saje 15:51:57 mari kita vote 15:52:04 rasa kene bincangkan cemana 15:52:10 lets vote 15:52:15 #vote saing setiap tema 15:52:15 Please vote on: saing setiap tema 15:52:15 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 15:52:32 mcm ni.. parelel ker siri ker.. benda ni masa global Jam baru kita nampak.. 15:52:46 setuju dengan deensokmo 15:52:51 kalau plan labih bagus 15:52:55 jadi lebih teratur 15:53:05 kita boleh set masa untuk setiap tema 15:53:24 better wat semua sama2.. tanak la asing2.. 15:53:28 rugi ilmu.. 15:53:34 +1 deensokmo : PencintaKucing 15:53:34 +1 deensokmo : PencintaKucing received from tajul 15:53:51 since, kita pun dalam satu blik jugak 15:53:54 hehe 15:53:54 kejap kefahaman sama2 dengan sing2 ni 15:53:57 klau suatu tema yg dipilih katakan 3 jam..tapi siap.. lompat ke tema seterusnya.. apa akan jadi tema tadi? 15:54:03 camtu tak yah vote 15:54:06 end vote dulu 15:54:21 #endvote 15:54:21 Voting ended on: saing setiap tema 15:54:21 Votes for:1 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 15:54:21 Motion carried 15:54:34 cancel vote.. masa global jam tu penting.. masa tu kita tentukan.. 15:54:54 skang ni kita susun, apa nak buat dulu.. 15:54:54 sbb ada yg xtwa a few..so ada orang yg blh ajarkan 15:55:01 #info habis meeting kita kene bgtau daus @training@altfa.com.my 15:55:27 ok 15:55:28 ok sekarang ni saya sebutkan tema yang terpilih 15:55:32 ok 15:55:33 1 - upgrade 15:55:35 ok.. 15:55:39 2 - dokumentasi 15:55:44 3 - terjemahan 15:55:50 4 - packaging 15:55:53 5 - lain-lain 15:55:57 maaf ada 5 semuanya 15:56:06 lain-lain tu apa kita nak buat sbenarnye ? 15:56:09 yg ke 5 tu kita tgk cemana 15:56:12 marketing ? 15:56:17 packaging ? 15:56:19 tatau lagi, nanti kat sana kita clarify 15:56:25 okay.. 15:56:28 packagin dah masuk no 4 15:56:36 okay... /me menurut perintah 15:56:46 packaging maksud aku packaging fizikal.. stuff2 cam cd/dvd etc 15:56:46 ;) 15:56:53 oooo 15:57:27 jadi sekarang ke mana halatuju perbincangan kita 15:57:31 ok 15:57:38 kita nak buat yg mana dulu antara 4 tu ? 15:57:47 teruskan, aku kene percepatkan meeting kita, sbb esok kene travel ni 15:57:49 rasanya, upgrade tu kita wat dari awal sampai abis.. 15:57:56 sebab takleh estimate brapa lama.. 15:57:57 ingat bukan semua akan hadir tepat masa yg dijanjikan.. 15:58:01 depends pada bandwitdh.. 15:58:02 ya 15:58:03 dari yang paling susah ke paling senang? 15:58:05 *bandwidth 15:58:45 macam aku dah ada alpha rasanya aku tak perlu nak upgrade time tu 15:58:45 #info 5 tajuk masa Ubuntu Global Jam 15:58:46 rasanya, kita start dengan upgrade, packaging, dokumentasi, terjemahan.. 15:59:04 senang dulu... 15:59:05 +1 PencintaKucing 15:59:06 +1 PencintaKucing 15:59:14 +1 PencintaKucing 15:59:23 ada cadangan lain? 15:59:32 fairuz_, kalo tengah upgrade then kita wat packaging, mengganggu tak upgrade tu ? 15:59:32 kalau ada kita boleh vote 15:59:49 PencintaKucing: nak packaging tu ada nak kena download beberapa package 16:00:01 so, takleh la susunan aku bagi tu.. 16:00:18 kalau tengok kat ubuntu jam info 16:00:19 buat senang dulu.. 16:00:20 upgrade, dokumentasi, terjemahan, packaging.. 16:00:22 okay tak ? 16:00:26 better sedia awal mana yang boleh sedia awal 16:00:43 +1 PencintaKucing 16:00:46 macam packaging tu bolh la apa yang perlu donlod dulu sebelum ke jam 16:00:55 atau: upgrade, dokumentasi, packaging, terjemahan 16:00:58 Rasanya upgrade tu yang makan masa. Semua pkai laptop je kan? 16:01:01 yg penting upgrade mesti mula2.. 16:01:03 pastu kalau dah abis upgrade boleh siap2 download package yg perlu utk packaging (walaupun time tu tgh baut terjemahan) 16:01:09 *buat 16:01:15 +1 fairuz 16:01:37 masa upgrade, kita dah bleh buat dokumentasi atau terjemahan.. 16:01:44 +1 PencintaKucing 16:01:46 #vote upgrade, dokumentasi, packaging, terjemahan, lain-lain 16:01:46 Please vote on: upgrade, dokumentasi, packaging, terjemahan, lain-lain 16:01:46 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 16:01:53 +1 16:01:53 +1 received from tajul 16:01:55 bila upgrade siap, kita still go on dengan terjemahan dan dokumentasi, sambil2 donlot deps utk packaging.. 16:01:56 +1 16:01:56 +1 received from susahsebut 16:02:01 +1 16:02:01 +1 received from PencintaKucing 16:02:11 -1 16:02:11 -1 received from Fakrul 16:02:17 +1 16:02:17 +1 received from deensokmo 16:02:36 ada lagi? 16:02:49 #endvote 16:02:49 Voting ended on: upgrade, dokumentasi, packaging, terjemahan, lain-lain 16:02:49 Votes for:4 Votes against:1 Abstentions:0 16:02:49 Motion carried 16:02:53 ejat: r u there? 16:03:04 * ejat tiada ... 16:03:10 LOL 16:03:13 LOL 16:03:14 welcome sifu ejat 16:03:20 welcome 16:03:27 katakan 10 org yg datang.. siapa yg buat upgrade? adakah 10 org.. atau dipecahkan tema kepada individu tertentu.. 16:03:36 concurrent 16:03:46 jalan sekali, sesambil 16:03:54 +1 tajul 16:04:24 camna aku bleh anggap text "ejat tiada ..." tu bukanlah dari ejat ? whats wrong with me ?? fuuuuuuuuuuu~ 16:04:35 ok, sekarang masa tetap untuk aktiviti? ada 3 cadangan tadi 16:04:41 ye2 je aku ingatkan system/server yg notify camtu.. 16:04:52 12-8pm, 2-8pm dan 12-6pm 16:04:57 kalau tak silap 16:05:06 ok la geng..nk masuk tido..esok keje 16:05:15 darknite: nak abis dah ni 16:05:19 sikit agi 16:05:29 kita dah tetap masakan deensokmo 16:05:31 yup skit lagi.. 16:05:34 8 - 8 lana? 16:05:45 tema pun dah dipilih.. 16:05:48 ok 16:05:48 silap 16:05:49 yaya 16:05:53 8 pagi aku susah skit time weekends.. 16:05:55 alahan.. 16:06:01 8-8pm, 12-8pm, dan 2-8pm kan? 16:06:07 xkisah kan 16:06:09 tak, bagi yg datang, dah boleh carry on 16:06:19 pakaian bebas kan 16:06:25 cuma 2 - 8 pm tu mmg dah 100% keje 16:06:30 8 am - 8pm atas kertas jer.. 16:06:35 yg menutup aurat 16:06:38 hehe 16:06:45 uish..gurau lak tajul nie 16:06:47 cadangan 12-8pm start keje la sesuai 16:06:53 ada 4 tema 16:06:59 ok.. pasal makan skit kita sentuih sebelum tutup meeting 16:07:02 bkn ada 5 tema ke 16:07:28 5 tema tapi 4 yang core themes 16:07:56 wah 16:08:00 ada tambah2 16:08:02 :) 16:08:10 yay 16:08:12 4 tema or 5 tema? 16:08:12 tajul, deensokmo , ejat ada lagi berkaitan jam? 16:08:13 +1 susahsebut 16:08:30 kita tetapkan 5, 4 yg core wajib kita capai 16:08:40 sebab yg ke 5 tu othere darknite 16:08:51 makan ? food ? i like !! 16:08:53 5 tema.. dlm senarai yg susahsebut 16:08:54 4 tema utama, 1 tema sampingan (lain2) sbb tema lain2 terpulang masa jem 16:08:55 +1 tajul . x perasan soalan darknite tu 16:09:01 haaa 16:09:02 makan 16:09:04 penting tu 16:09:08 ekeke 16:09:14 can we proceed? 16:09:17 macamana untuk makan2 ni? 16:09:22 meeting dah nak tutup ni.. pasal ok.. 16:09:28 packaging minta fairuz buat hello world :) 16:09:38 nasi lemak utk sarapan, nasi beriyani utk lunch, goreng pisang + kepok gote utk tea time, malam kluar makan ramai2.. 16:09:40 :P 16:09:42 makan2 seperti yg kita bincang last time, kita nak wat pot luck kan? 16:10:02 errr aku dari johor basi lak kang makanan kalau aku bawak 16:10:03 :p 16:10:03 tapi ada dengar si ejat nak payung 16:10:04 tajul: lasagna 16:10:15 payung - i like :p 16:10:16 seafood lasagna ? nyum2.. 16:10:23 tajul: baik amik pisau tikam jerk i .. 16:10:26 +1 ejat oayung 16:10:29 *payung 16:10:30 dari buat pitnah 16:10:32 kat kawasan meeting ada kedai makan? 16:10:40 aku dengar2 16:10:47 kalau ada kedai makan time makan kita serang je la kedfai makan tu 16:10:47 mungkin salah, dalam mimpi ejat 16:10:52 ada kedai kat sana 16:10:56 mmg banyak 16:10:58 +1 susahsebut 16:11:01 kedai dekat.. 16:11:03 turun je, kedai makan banyak 16:11:09 jadi kita tak yah pikir sangat pasal makanan 16:11:10 ok.ok.. 16:11:17 tapi, kalau boleh saya cadangkan, kita wat makanan ringan 16:11:19 pasal tema ni pun masih banyak yang kurang ni persediaan 16:11:23 pada pendapat aku 16:11:23 sesambil 16:11:38 makanan ringan kita bawak msorang sikit? 16:11:48 setuju jugak tu 16:11:52 makan elok dalam tempat meeting kot, tak bazir masa turun makan (kecuali akan tengah hari kot) sbb yang lain boleh makan potluck tu 16:11:54 makanan ringan pot luck la.. 16:12:01 boleh ke kunyah2 dalam kelas ltfa tu? 16:12:02 dlm bilik tak boleh makan kot.. 16:12:13 takleh eh ? 16:12:14 adeh.. 16:12:19 cekedis takpa kot ? 16:12:37 Ok.. nampaknya jam 12 lebih esok semua org nak kerja.. 16:12:55 kita dah penghujung.. ni 16:13:00 bilik ada tempat khas makan 16:13:09 so, makan kita pot luck je la 16:13:11 kita decide cam tu 16:13:14 makan berat, sendri 16:13:19 okay, pot luck.. 16:13:20 ada yg penting tertinggal lagi? 16:13:21 +1 16:13:24 #idea makan sendiri + pot luck 16:13:26 +1 tajul 16:13:41 mintak idea makanan ringan yang macamana untuk potluck tu 16:13:46 air mineral? 16:13:47 ada yg penting tertinggal lagi? susahsebut, tajul, PencintaKucing 16:13:49 bawak je cekedis.. 16:13:58 deensokmo, update minit mesyuarat.. 16:13:59 Twisties (pasti mau) dan sewaktu dengannya 16:14:03 Nips 16:14:05 air botol 16:14:15 +1 PencintaKucing 16:14:18 rasanya tak masuk lagi semua tema tu kat minit mesyuarat.. just vote je tadi.. 16:14:20 air notol tu inreal kan? 16:14:29 xpe saya ada log 16:14:40 semuanya dilog kemas :p 16:14:47 okay :D 16:14:53 ok 16:14:56 camni la.. aku support air mineral.. 16:14:58 nk MCD la 16:15:01 ok jgk kan 16:15:04 +1 deensokmo 16:15:22 makanan ringan tu bawak la kopok, air, cekelat.. sapa nak bawak goreng2 pon okay kalo rajin.. 16:15:41 +1 PencintaKucing 16:15:45 e.g: kepok gote (bawak la wei.. pliss) :P , goreng pisang, sosej, fries etc etc 16:15:49 bawak jemput2 boley? :p 16:15:53 PencintaKucing, mcmmana nak masukan ke minit mesyurat semua yg kita vote tadi? 16:15:54 #info pen + kertas perlu bawa juga (kot2 nak simple scatch/note pe2) 16:15:55 boleh susahsebut 16:16:03 yaya Fakrul 16:16:05 deensokmo, guna #info je rasanya.. 16:16:17 hah equipment tambahan 16:16:21 command #info ngan #idea masuk minit mesyuarat kalo tak silap.. 16:16:29 yaya, masuk 16:16:32 korang install kat computer korang kan..sbb aku nie pakai virtualbox saje kot 16:16:40 (dah tere sikit guna meetingology) 16:16:44 hee 16:16:48 susahsebut cahir topic ini.. sila #info semua tema.. 16:17:07 cahir= macam ayat hindustan je 16:17:12 apa tu? 16:17:14 :p 16:17:17 hahahaha.. 16:17:21 cakir aku tau la.. 16:17:22 salah taip daa.. 16:17:23 eh, cangkir.. 16:17:31 secangkir madu merah, membasahi di kalbu.. 16:17:39 geng, saya kene beransur dulu 16:17:44 mintak sapa2 emel kepada daus 16:17:52 sperti yg dituliskan sebelum ini 16:17:53 susahsebut chair topic Global Jam.. 16:17:59 ttg masa dan tarikh tu 16:18:11 dia nak assign utk staf dia keje 16:18:21 saya cuba siapkan minit malam ni. jadi pada yang nak email tu boleh refer pada minit 16:18:23 bagaimana? 16:18:37 ok.. 16:18:41 takpelah kalau camtu 16:18:43 saya emel je 16:18:49 minit tak perlu kot 16:18:59 tapi kalau ada minit, nampak proper ye dak? 16:19:01 alang2 tu, susahsebut email terus la.. 16:19:15 #info tempat di Altfa Solution BAngi http://altfa.com.my/v2/contact-us.html 16:19:20 insyaAllah selagi saya ada minit pun ada 16:19:21 sekali ngan minit mensyuarat lengkat.. 16:19:25 susahsebut: anda boleh tulung emel selaku SU Agung? 16:19:37 #info tarikh 4Feb 2012 16:19:38 saya buta karangan emel 16:19:49 deensokmo, 4 mac la.. 16:19:50 tajul lebih sesuai rasanya 16:19:57 #info emel kepada training@altfa.com.my berkenaan masa dan tarikh 16:19:59 sori.. 16:20:14 #Tarikh 4 Mac 2012 16:20:18 #info Tarikh Global Jam: 4 Mac 2012 (8pagi - 8malam) 16:20:20 ok, kalau nak saya emel, nanti bagi minit ye 16:20:20 #info tema 1 - upgrade 16:20:26 saya emel kat daus 16:20:30 #info tema 2 - dokumentasi 16:20:45 ok tajul 16:20:56 #info tema 3 - terjemahan 16:21:08 #info tema 4 - packaging 16:21:12 My Citarasa Food House <------------ macam sedap je ^^ 16:21:26 #info tema 5 - lain-lain 16:21:34 Fakrul, belanja :p 16:21:52 Jadi.. selesai sudah meeting kita malam ini.. 16:22:22 Saya ucapkam terima kasih kepada yg mereka yg hadir di sini.. 16:22:31 sama-sama.. 16:22:31 #info prerequisite all members must have launchpad id/account 16:22:54 sama - sama 16:23:09 harap minta maaf ada yg terkurang.. 16:23:24 dengan ini.. saya ingin menutup meeting pada malam ini.. 16:23:28 sama juga saya kot ada terkasar bahasa terbossy ke etc 16:23:29 Restoran Belauk <---------- baris belakang tempat training 16:23:39 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)