== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting: Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team, 29 Oct at 15:00 — 16:01 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-10-29-15.00.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Lightning Round === The discussion about "Lightning Round" started at 15:00. === Release Incoming Bugs === The discussion about "Release Incoming Bugs" started at 15:09. * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs * ''LINK:'' http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs === AOB === The discussion about "AOB" started at 15:58. == Vote results == == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * bdmurray (86) * vorlon (41) * ubottu (37) * xnox (27) * rbalint (18) * juliank (17) * tdaitx (17) * sil2100 (17) * slyon (14) * waveform (9) * mclemenceau (7) * meetingology (3) * doko (1) == Full Log == 15:00 #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team 15:00 Meeting started Thu Oct 29 15:00:35 2020 UTC. The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:00 15:00 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 15:00 #topic Lightning Round 15:00 o/ 15:01 echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint mwhudson juliank waveform slyon) 15:01 juliank rbalint mwhudson vorlon tdaitx sil2100 xnox doko slyon bdmurray waveform 15:01 hola 15:01 * python-apt: 15:01 - Rely on distro-info to expand templates for concrete releases instead of copy and pasting them (LP: #1727470) - https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/python-apt/-/merge_requests/52 15:01 Launchpad bug 1727470 in Ubuntu Translations "[RFE] Automatically update the Ubuntu version strings in python-apt" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1727470 15:01 - Rename Cdrom and Disc to (installation) medium (LP: #1849406); only committed so far 15:01 Launchpad bug 1849406 in python-apt (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 19.10: "Cdrom" to "Physical media"" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1849406 15:01 * oh no, an apt installation ordering issue (debian bug 973305). making some bits configure less immediate, but turning on immediate configuration makes it work; odd, eh? 15:01 Debian bug 973305 in apt "apt-get throws error when run with --simulate and APT::Immediate-Configure set to "false"" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/973305 15:01 * +1 maintenance 15:02 (done or do people want +1 details here too?) 15:02 (short week due to holidays) 15:02 * partner work 15:02 * systemd reviews 15:02 * +1 maintenance 15:02 * proposed a more complete fix for LP: #1891686 15:02 Launchpad bug 1891686 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "Please default to nocheck on riscv64" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1891686 15:02 * updated strace to new upstream 15:02 * sponsored logrotate via Debian before merging it in Ubuntu to fix FTBFS 15:02 * merged logrotate 15:02 * preparing systemd 246.6-2ubuntu1 for hirsute 15:02 * preparing glibc 2.32-0ubuntu4 for hirsute, landing today night/tomorrow morning 15:02 * britney hints bzr->git migration 15:02 (done) 15:03 vorlon: ? 15:03 How about tdaitx? 15:03 * openjdk security updated 15:03 - openjdk-8 updated to 8u272-b10, aarch32 hotspot (armhf) repo was not up-to-date and was patched 15:03 - openjdk-11 updated to 11.0.9-11 15:03 - rebased openjdk-lts on top of debian's openjdk-11 just before push 15:03 oops - I'll go after tdaitx 15:03 - 3 retries for openjdk-11 armhf to pass with gcc-10 15:04 - now tracking errors.u.c and lp for any bug reports 15:04 * proposed fix for update-notifier (bug 1821412) (approved, now needs merge, upload, srus...) 15:04 bug 1821412 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) ""System program problem" report button does nothing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1821412 15:04 * jck 15:04 - working around jenkins/snap restrictions for accounts outside /home 15:04 - working around proxy limitations/bugs in snap/lxd/snacraft/multipass 15:04 - working around lack of shitfs 15:04 - working around other workarounds 15:04 Other: 15:04 - hatting the guts of jenkaas sso integration and its short lived cookies 15:04 (done) 15:04 sil2100: 15:04 - 20.10 release last week! 15:04 - SRU reviews and releases 15:04 - Archive opening 15:04 - Adding notes about ubuntu-image specific hacks in the manpage 15:04 - Experimented with and prepared a new google-cloud-sdk for xenial partner-proposed 15:04 * shiftfs 15:04 - Looked into the raspi-config project and uploaded it into NEW 15:04 - Promoted new core18 to stable 15:04 - Forward-ported changes for making the core20 version number date-based as for core18 15:04 - Reviewed Lukas's netplan fix for systemd-networkd misconfiguration 15:04 - Interviews 15:05 - Some bileto tweaks 15:05 - Familiarized with ubiquity code, worked on providing user feedback of ubuntu-drivers running - almost there 15:05 ok or not ;) 15:05 (done) 15:05 * release opening checklist 15:05 * doing my merges for te beginning of cycle 15:05 * cloud image discussions 15:05 (done) 15:05 29th October 15:05 fixing bootloader installation in livecd-rootfs 15:05 fixing hyperv gallery image in livecd-rootfs 15:05 testing riscv64 lxd builder to build livecd-rootfs images (cpc & buildd) 15:05 uploaded mdadm to fix degraded/dirty assembly to hirsuite, todo SRUs 15:05 grub2 sru to bionic accepted; need validation 15:05 submitted patch to snapcraft to build build-base core22 snaps 15:05 done 15:06 doko: 15:06 slyon: 15:06 - ISO testing 15:06 * Found problem with ZFS installation, LP: #1900859 15:06 - Improved cloud-init MAAS/OVS fix, PR#608 15:06 - klibc merge 2.0.8 via git-ubuntu, LP: #1900124 15:06 - Working on MOTU application 15:06 === Netplan === 15:06 Launchpad bug 1900859 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ZFS installation crashes while loading modules" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1900859 15:06 Launchpad bug 1900124 in klibc (Ubuntu) "Please merge klibc 2.0.8-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1900124 15:07 - IRC/AskUbuntu support 15:07 - MAAS/OVS SRU + verification, LP: #1898997 15:07 - Updated gateway documentation & prepared LP: #1901836 15:07 - Fixed regression upstream, LP: #1888726 15:07 - Improved Github CI, using GH Actions + Codecov 15:07 - Working on 'netplan try' DBus commands, PR#134 15:07 (done) 15:07 Launchpad bug 1898997 in cloud-init "MAAS cannot deploy/boot if OVS bridge is configured on a single PXE NIC" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1898997 15:07 Launchpad bug 1901836 in netplan "netplan should warn/fail if multiple default gateways are defined" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1901836 15:07 Launchpad bug 1888726 in netplan.io (Ubuntu Focal) "systemd-udevd regression: some renamed network interfaces stuck in "pending" state" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1888726 15:07 modified snap remove code to print the date for IS 15:07 sponsored waveform's fix for LP: #1836475 (twice!) 15:07 uploaded tzdata 2020b for Groovy LP: #1900436 (more than twice) 15:07 uploaded tzdata 2020d SRUs for P, T, X, B, F, G 15:07 Launchpad bug 1836475 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Groovy) "update-notifier-common weekly cron job runs at the same time for all computers across the globe" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1836475 15:07 Launchpad bug 1900436 in tzdata (Ubuntu) "new upstream release 2020b" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1900436 15:07 created a test case for verifying icu-data updates 15:07 SRU verification of tzdata uploads 15:07 research into LP: #1872106 15:07 updated ubuntu-manpages-repository: -Eoan +Groovy +Hirsute 15:07 submitted RT to have it done on the server 15:07 Launchpad bug 1872106 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu Focal) "isc-dhcp-server crashing constantly [Ubuntu 20.04]" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1872106 15:07 reported slideshow bug LP: #1900756 15:07 uploaded u-r-u for 21.04 15:07 updated meta-release for hirsute 15:07 worked with sil2100 on distro-info-data 15:07 groovy release stuff 15:07 Launchpad bug 1900756 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-kylin slideshow still contains information about 5.4 kernel" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1900756 15:07 ✔ done 15:07 waveform: 15:08 * Still using the pi desktop image :) 15:08 * Answering lots of questions from the community about the new destkop image (mostly USB boot related)! 15:08 * Worked on userland MIR (lower priority post-release) (LP: #1895137) 15:08 * Investigated dual monitor issue on pi desktop (appears to be hi-res only) 15:08 Launchpad bug 1895137 in rpi-eeprom (Ubuntu) "[MIR] rpi-eeprom; raspberrypi-userland" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1895137 15:08 * Investigating bluetooth reboot issue; can't reliably reproduce at the moment (LP: #1901272) 15:08 Launchpad bug 1901272 in pi-bluetooth (Ubuntu) "Can't connect Bluetooth devices after reboot - Ubuntu 20.10 on Raspberry Pi 4" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1901272 15:08 * Updated pi-gadget to fix stored MAC address in Core 18 bootloader (LP: #1900879) 15:08 Launchpad bug 1900879 in snap-core18 "MAC addresses hard-coded in bootloader" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1900879 15:08 * Worked on Core 20 d-t boot issues 15:08 * ... more work on Core 20 d-t boot issues after realizing first solution can't work 15:08 (done) 15:08 doko: ? 15:09 #topic Release Incoming Bugs 15:09 #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:10 bug 1902025 15:10 bug 1902025 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "hwe kernel not scoped under "Ubuntu Base"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1902025 15:10 I've sorted by number and descending 15:11 This doesn't seem terribly important 15:12 So let's sit on it 15:12 +1 15:12 bug 1901723 15:12 bug 1901723 in openssl (Ubuntu) "backport Refactor BN_R_NO_INVERSE logic in internal functions" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1901723 15:12 What is the motivation for doing this? 15:13 +1 15:13 Okay, let's card that. 15:14 mclemenceau: ^ 15:14 you got it 15:14 bug 1901137 15:14 bug 1901137 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "UEFI on Legacy - grub-install fails due to no space left on ESP" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1901137 15:15 Is this really Critical? 15:15 I'd say no 15:16 But still worth sorting out 15:16 this can break upgrades 15:16 but we do need to decide what to do regarding the various edge cases of ESP when installer is booted under BIOS, yes 15:17 okay, let's card that 15:17 ack 15:17 bug 1901043 15:17 bug 1901043 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No sound in ubiquity-dm with nomodeset" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1901043 15:19 Let's call that medium 15:19 is this really a ubiquity bug or is it a kernel bug? 15:19 to be determined. 15:19 and pass on it for now 15:19 ok 15:20 bug 1900925 15:20 bug 1900925 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Advanced features dialog w/ screen reader" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1900925 15:20 I noticed this when doing iso testing. 15:21 I'm not certian how important it is 15:21 hm, I would take it 15:22 Could it be a larger problem than just the ubiquity dialog? 15:22 Like something in the screen reading stack. 15:22 we could dynamically remove/add label, but then it would make the popup resize which is a UX no-no. 15:22 I doubt it, I think it's probably something we should do better in ubiquity 15:23 okay, lets take a card for that 15:23 ok 15:23 bug 1898778 15:23 bug 1898778 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "RPCNFSDARGS missing from /etc/default/nfs-kernel-server" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1898778 15:25 let's take that then 15:25 bug 1897929 15:25 bug 1897929 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "secure boot password "password" is reported to be 'good'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1897929 15:26 we shouldn't be doing password quality checks at all on the mok password 15:26 so that's the thing to fix here 15:26 can you comment to that affect on the bug? 15:26 but I don't think it's all that high priority, unless there are circumstances in which we're telling users their mok password is bad 15:26 yes 15:27 commented 15:27 bug 1894919 15:27 bug 1894919 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Focal) "gnome-software-plugin-snap consider an unwanted removal for 20.04 ubuntu-desktop" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1894919 15:28 We should still sort out what is considered and unwanted removal. 15:28 if this is already triaged for focal, shouldn't we automatically take it for devel? 15:32 bug 1893964 15:32 bug 1893964 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installation of Ubuntu Groovy with manual partitioning without an EFI System Partition fails on 'grub-install /dev/sda' even on non-UEFI systems" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1893964 15:32 this sounds like it's a duplicate of the other bug we discussed? 15:32 kind of, but slightly different reproducer 15:32 (manual rather than any of the automatic recipes) 15:33 should we allow installations without ESP? 15:33 maybe 15:33 i think so 15:33 explicit and warn? or even no warning? 15:33 well, rule 1, we shouldn't allow the user to leave the partitioner with a config that will lead to an install failure later 15:33 what about legacy systems where there is no space for ESP 15:33 in subiquity we create esp whenver we can, and it's just there. 15:33 juliank: what about no space for grub-pc? 15:33 rule 2, if the user can't have an ESP for whatever reason, we should let the install proceed without setting up grub-efi* 15:34 there are quite usable non-UEFI systems 15:34 ack 15:34 take the bug then. 15:34 xnox: no space for grub-pc, if booting on uefi, should warn, but not fail 15:34 sorry, fooled by the DST change 15:34 taken 15:34 doko: yeap, we guessed. 15:35 Is it carded? 15:36 bug 1891721 15:36 bug 1891721 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "grub-multi-install attempts to mount a non-existing device after migrating to another system" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1891721 15:36 this one is fun. 15:36 we somehow notice and install on usb-stick's ESP 15:36 and then break when it is unplugged. 15:37 usb stick with the installer? or something else? 15:37 I saw that before 15:37 i wonder if grub-multi-install should ignore removable media; which is not rootfs? 15:37 usb stick with something else. 15:37 xnox: not really 15:37 neato 15:37 we should take it 15:37 xnox: So you might want to have ESP on USB stick 15:37 and take it with you 15:38 ok vorlon: carded 15:38 bug 1884248 then 15:38 bug 1884248 in networkd-dispatcher (Ubuntu) "networkd-dispatcher gives corrupted information" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1884248 15:39 juliank you tagged this bug do you have anything to add? 15:39 I haven't reproduced it, but I guess it needs fixing 15:40 Also new upstream releases to upload exist I think 15:40 okay 15:41 it is valid json.... bu thte keys and valu es l ook malforme d. 15:43 bug 1878601 we sort of talked about already 15:43 bug 1878601 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "nfs-utils in Debian and Ubuntu is *very* old" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1878601 15:43 ok carded 15:43 so card that 15:44 bug 1874287 15:44 bug 1874287 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Focal) "ubiquity must allow debconf database access when ubuntu-drivers executes apt-get install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1874287 15:44 that already has a card 15:44 then our dbus time out friend 15:44 bug 1424768 15:45 bug 1424768 in whoopsie (Ubuntu Bionic) "Consider switching to path based activation" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1424768 15:45 EBUGTOOOLD 15:45 this has a card already 15:45 that already also has a card 15:45 here's an old bug 15:45 bug 764414 15:45 bug 764414 in apport (Ubuntu) "private master bugs are confusing and lead to more duplicate filings" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/764414 15:47 not sure what we even could do with that 15:47 Colin indicated there was a Launchpad question about this as somebody encountered a master crash which was private 15:47 ah, Robert had a suggestion 15:48 but I think 'wishlist' is accurate and don't think we should commit to this 15:48 yeah, it hasn't seen much activity recently 15:48 we could be better about making private crashes public 15:49 #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:49 bug 1890435 15:49 bug 1890435 in gcc-10 (Ubuntu) "gcc-10 breaks on armhf (flaky): internal compiler error: Segmentation fault" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1890435 15:51 okay we are still waiting on upstream 15:51 bug 1900774 15:51 bug 1900774 in grub2 (Ubuntu Groovy) "[arm64] EFI stub: ERROR: FIRMWARE BUG: efi_loaded_image_t::image_base has bogus value" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1900774 15:52 let's take that 15:53 ok 15:53 bug 1901000 15:53 bug 1901000 in OEM Priority Project "dmesg need permission after kernel 5.8" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1901000 15:54 well we are about out of time 15:55 however, I wanted to raise bug 1901725 15:55 bug 1901725 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Bionic) "check-new-release-gtk tells i386 users Ubuntu 20.04.1 is available" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1901725 15:55 didn't we have a bug about that previously? 15:55 Right we fixed it so the upgrade doesn't happen 15:56 We just didn't fix the checker 15:56 regarding bug 764414 this feels that bugs being all-or-nothing private/public is at the bottom of the problem? would being able to set some items (attachments/comments) as private in a public bug a possible solution? not sure how that would be implemented, just asking 15:56 bug 764414 in apport (Ubuntu) "private master bugs are confusing and lead to more duplicate filings" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/764414 15:56 right - we had talked about this previously though, and I thought there was previously a bug opened 15:57 tdaitx: well, if you want to go propose patches to launchpad I guess :) 15:57 I didn't find it easily as searching for i386 wasn't helpful. 15:57 fair enough 15:57 anyway, we should take 15:58 and put it at the top for the next sprint probably 15:58 (card, since it's already targeted) 15:58 ok 15:58 #topic AOB 15:58 I'm out next week! 15:59 vorlon: if the idea I proposed makes any sense, we could have at least a whishlist bug open against launchpad for that, unless there is already one 15:59 skipping proposed-migration on the agenda because everything is blocked by autopkgtests 15:59 (queue is 9,000 deep on amd64) 15:59 i'm out tomorow 15:59 tdaitx: sure 15:59 I'm out from next Tuesday to the following Wednesday 16:00 (i.e. back the following Wednesday) 16:00 am I supposed to send out a +1 report? 16:00 yes but I haven't sent my last 3 16:00 so 16:01 alright, thanks everybody 16:01 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)