== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting Meeting, 06 Apr at 20:01 — 20:40 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-04-06-20.01.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Moderator Polling === The discussion about "Moderator Polling" started at 20:02. * ''Vote:'' Complete poll with the nominees we have currently (Denied) * ''Vote:'' Complete this round using the previous method, and look at increasing the advertising in 6 months time (Carried) === AOB === The discussion about "AOB" started at 20:29. * ''ACTION:'' s-fox to contact Canonical IS re mobile theme === Team Report === The discussion about "Team Report" started at 20:33. * ''ACTION:'' howefield Team Report === Next Meeting === The discussion about "Next Meeting" started at 20:36. * ''ACTION:'' FC to discuss meeting times for next 6 months * [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-04-06-20.01.log.html#92 Complete this round using the previous method, and look at increasing the advertising in 6 months time]] * Motion carried (For/Against/Abstained 3/1/1) * Voters elfy, howefield, Iowan, s-fox, coffeecat * [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-04-06-20.01.log.html#73 Complete poll with the nominees we have currently]] * Motion carried (For/Against/Abstained 2/3/0) * Voters howefield, coffeecat, Iowan, s-fox, elfy == Vote results == == Action items, by person == * howefield * howefield Team Report * s-fox * s-fox to contact Canonical IS re mobile theme == Done items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * elfy (77) * meetingology (32) * howefield (15) * s-fox (15) * Iowan (12) * coffeecat (9) == Full Log == 20:01 #startmeeting 20:01 Meeting started Sun Apr 6 20:01:14 2014 UTC. The chair is elfy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 20:01 20:01 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 20:01 #chair coffeecat elfy howefield s-fox 20:01 Current chairs: coffeecat elfy howefield s-fox 20:02 agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda 20:02 and is short :) 20:02 #topic Moderator Polling 20:03 so a quick update of where we are 20:03 Meetingology seems to think there are 4 chairs. Just thought I'd let you know. ;-) 20:03 coffeecat: Error: "seems" is not a valid command. 20:03 we have 2 nominations from people other than the Forum Council 20:04 we have 4 nominations from us 20:04 so the question is - do we carry on knowing that 4 of the 6 are people that we nominated - or do we put this down to us not letting enough people know 20:05 EVEN if we did let those who could actually vote and nominate know 20:05 I note that not 1 nomination came from anyone on the current moderation team 20:05 update updated :) 20:05 comments from the rest of us please :) 20:05 my feeling is that we have enough candidates for a ballot, so would be good to continue the process. 20:06 I acknowledge that the lack of self nominated candidate is not a great place to be though. 20:08 I think the situation is not ideal but I have faith in the names in front of us 20:09 yep, me too 20:10 On the one hand it would be good to have a ballot if only to see how many members actually bothered to vote. On the other we have 6 names we are happy with and if we are happy to appoint six, then the vote becomes a bit pointless. 20:10 my issue is 20:11 if we had 6 people that were nominated by Forum Members then that would be great 20:11 we are in a position where not only would we be happy with the 2 that were nominated by other than us 20:11 we would also be happy with the 4 that we had to nominate 20:11 at that point we're running a rigged ballot 20:12 in so many words 20:12 the process ensures that the FC are happy with all candidates put forward. 20:12 o/ 20:12 I'd prefer us to learn from this - while we only have a cetain group of people who can vote - there's nothing to stop us letting the WHOLE forum know 20:12 I think we mucked up there 20:13 s-fox: go 20:13 Rigged, possibly but no different to how we've worked before behind closed doors. This was a spectacular failure but we should learn from it. 20:14 yes - same as before, possibly we should have included the whole forum in the 'knowing' at least 20:15 that would be reasonable, imho. 20:15 Perhaps the whole forum to vote, but only candidates be the ubuntu forum members 20:15 s-fox: not sure about that 20:16 not sure we can poll on the forum and only let people vote the once 20:16 Hello Iowan 20:16 #chair Iowan 20:16 Current chairs: Iowan coffeecat elfy howefield s-fox 20:17 all 5 of us appear to be chair. Shouldn't the comand be vote? 20:18 coffeecat: doesn't matter I think 20:18 and when there's a vote I'll do that 20:18 ok - never seen a m e etiunglology tab before. 20:18 how safe would a forum wide poll be? 20:19 coffeecat: meetingology has changed lately 20:19 I'm not sure that I would be happy with a poll forum wide to be honest - one of the points of forum membership was they would get a say 20:19 we need to get past the issue of securing sufficent candidates before worrying about voting :) 20:19 forum wide poll *should* be safe. If we ever got to the point of having one, we could investigate if there was a really weird result for one person. 20:19 even if it does look like they aren't interested 20:20 howefield: agreed 20:20 Iowan: you caught up on the logs ? 20:20 not quite... 20:21 the way I see it for now is we vote on 20:21 1 - carry on with a poll with the names we have given the cons of where we are 20:21 2 - go back to the old way this time and advertise the whole polling issue more widely next time 20:23 just wait for Iowan to catch up and comment 20:23 I think I have the gist... 20:23 ok 20:23 Dunno that I have a lot to comment. 20:24 ok 20:24 Turnout was underwhelming... 20:24 s-fox coffeecat howefield Iowan - happy to vote ? 20:25 OK 20:25 sure - go ahead, thanks. 20:25 yep 20:25 #voters elfy howefield s-fox coffeecat Iowan 20:25 Current voters: Iowan coffeecat elfy howefield s-fox 20:26 #vote Complete poll with the nominees we have currently 20:26 Please vote on: Complete poll with the nominees we have currently 20:26 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) 20:26 +1 20:26 +1 received from howefield 20:26 +1 20:26 +1 received from Iowan 20:26 -1 20:26 -1 received from coffeecat 20:27 -1 20:27 -1 received from s-fox 20:27 -1 20:27 -1 received from elfy 20:27 #endvote 20:27 Voting ended on: Complete poll with the nominees we have currently 20:27 Votes for:2 Votes against:3 Abstentions:0 20:27 Motion denied 20:27 It just doesn't feel right 20:28 problem is, it doesn't feel right either way :( 20:28 #vote Complete this round using the previous method, and look at increasing the advertising in 6 months time 20:28 Please vote on: Complete this round using the previous method, and look at increasing the advertising in 6 months time 20:28 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) 20:28 +1 20:28 +1 received from elfy 20:28 -1 20:28 -1 received from howefield 20:28 +1 20:28 +1 received from coffeecat 20:28 howefield: yea I agree 20:28 +0 20:28 +0 received from Iowan 20:28 +1 20:28 +1 received from s-fox 20:29 #endvote 20:29 Voting ended on: Complete this round using the previous method, and look at increasing the advertising in 6 months time 20:29 Votes for:3 Votes against:1 Abstentions:1 20:29 Motion carried 20:29 ok - thanks for that bit then 20:29 #topic AOB 20:29 Anyone got anything else they want to talk to us about? 20:30 AOB? 20:30 or indeed anyone of us want to talk about anything else :) 20:30 any other business 20:30 Tnx 20:30 The CSS thing is still waiting on IS input 20:30 s-fox: there is a ticket for it isn't there? 20:31 Yes 20:31 anyone up for taking an action to contact them? 20:31 I'll prod in the morning 20:32 ok 20:32 #action s-fox to contact Canonical IS re mobile theme 20:32 * meetingology s-fox to contact Canonical IS re mobile theme 20:32 anything else from anyone? 20:32 not from me, thanks. 20:33 NAda 20:33 not here 20:33 Nothing else. 20:33 #topic Team Report 20:33 who did that last time - was you I think s-fox ? 20:34 Yes 20:34 * elfy thinks the new boy should do that at least once, just like I did it at least once :p 20:34 I should, not having done it yet. 20:34 #action howefield Team Report 20:34 * meetingology howefield Team Report 20:34 :) 20:35 there are no votable Membership Applications at the moment 20:35 and the team report is now the only rotating thing we do now I believe 20:35 am I right? 20:35 indeed :) 20:36 AFAIK, yes 20:36 #topic Next Meeting 20:37 the calendar show's 2 for May - there appears to be one for 19:00UTC - I think that was my mistake I'll contact them to do that 20:37 We should change the time for the Americans / Canadians 20:37 #action elfy Clean up the Calendar 20:37 * meetingology elfy Clean up the Calendar 20:37 that's a UK Bank Holiday weekend, is that an issue ? 20:37 s-fox: I asked in Admins thread 20:37 This American is OK with anythiing after noon (locally) 20:38 :) 20:38 I think that cariboo907 is generally ok as well 20:39 lets talk about that amongst ourselves during the week then I'll deal with the calendar then 20:39 #undo 20:39 Removing item from minutes: ACTION 20:39 +1 20:39 #action FC to discuss meeting times for next 6 months 20:39 * meetingology FC to discuss meeting times for next 6 months 20:39 as they will be the summer time ones 20:40 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)