#title #ubuntu-meeting: Developer Membership Board Meeting Meeting started by bdrung at 14:02:09 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-02-11-14.02.log.html . == Meeting summary == *Review of previous action items *Iain to publish the Dynamic PPU Procedure on the wiki somewhere (bdrung, 14:03:34) *Micah to run the election, starting ASAP, ending on midnight 10th-11th Feb (bdrung, 14:04:54) ''LINK:'' http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_5b1837b9f3008750 (stgraber, 14:08:57) ''ACTION:'' micahg to announce the poll results (bdrung, 14:16:00) *Stéphane to add Aron to a new input-methods packageset (bdrung, 14:16:50) *Kernel PPU team administration ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/UploadRights (bdrung, 14:18:37) Meeting ended at 14:30:12 UTC. == Votes == * Should the DMB delegate kernel upload rights to the kernel PPU team? For: 6 Against: 0 Abstained: 0 * Do you confirm the DMB poll (new members: ScottK, stgraber, Laney, bdrung)? For: 6 Against: 0 Abstained: 0 == Action items == * micahg to announce the poll results == People present (lines said) == * bdrung (28) * meetingology (23) * Laney (15) * micahg_mobile (10) * stgraber (10) * tumbleweed (7) * barry (6) * ogasawara (3) == Full Log == 14:02:09 #startmeeting 14:02:09 Meeting started Mon Feb 11 14:02:09 2013 UTC. The chair is bdrung. 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The kernel seems to different than 'normal' packages. 14:21:09 Looks fine 14:21:09 what barry said 14:21:20 one small detail, should we require them to be Ubuntu Members? 14:21:35 otherwise kernel-uploaders will give them that right without any explicit Ubuntu Membership review 14:21:42 I'd be fine with that requirement 14:21:51 what does the desktop team do there? 14:22:04 at least until we've separated those (see later agenda item :) 14:22:19 looks like nothing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Developers 14:22:25 barry: well, this isn't PPU 14:22:25 It gives you ubuntu-dev -> membership 14:22:46 Desktop team has same problem, but in the case of the desktop team, sustained is much more likely in a visible form 14:22:54 I suppose once you've been contributing enough it's fine to become a member too (is the thought) 14:23:04 enough to join the desktop team that is 14:23:10 given the fairly heavy requirements for the kernel team, I'm happy with it implying membership as is 14:23:14 yeah 14:23:20 This should be ppu though for membership purposes 14:24:23 I'm happy to discuss the ppu aspect later when we do the split 14:24:57 vote? 14:25:03 ok, I'm happy keeping the kernel process similar to desktop's and I guess we'd grant them UCD anyway if they were to apply, so getting membership is fine 14:25:49 ogasawara: in your proposal, three Ack's are needed. Have you considered +3 instead? This gives the voting members three options: +1, +0 or -1. 14:27:10 bdrung: I hadn't thought requiring +3 since with us it will be +1 or -1, none of that +0. either you have our ack or you don't. 14:27:38 okay. let's vote 14:29:27 #vote Should the DMB delegate kernel upload rights to the kernel PPU team? 14:29:27 Please vote on: Should the DMB delegate kernel upload rights to the kernel PPU team? 14:29:27 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 14:29:31 +1 14:29:31 +1 received from stgraber 14:29:34 +1 14:29:34 +1 received from barry 14:29:43 +1 14:29:43 +1 received from micahg_mobile 14:29:51 +1 14:29:51 +1 received from Laney 14:29:54 +1 14:29:54 +1 received from bdrung 14:30:02 +1 14:30:02 +1 received from tumbleweed 14:30:12 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)