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15:04:23 <slangasek> [TOPIC] lightning round
15:04:37 <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra infinity cjwatson xnox stokachu)
15:04:41 <slangasek> jodh barry ev cjwatson infinity xnox bdmurray slangasek stokachu doko ogra stgraber
15:04:56 <jodh> * bugs:
15:04:56 <jodh> * bug 1060249: Can now recreate. Trying to get more detailed stack
15:04:56 <jodh> trace.
15:04:56 <jodh> * bug 1016040: Bit of analysis on this. Still unable to recreate though.
15:04:58 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1060249 in debconf (Ubuntu Quantal) "frontend crashed with signal 5 in g_node_copy_deep()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1060249
15:04:59 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1016040 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "apt_check.py crashed with SIGSEGV in FileName()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1016040
15:04:59 <jodh> * bug 1030278: Lots of work on this, but barry beat me to the post :-)
15:05:01 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1030278 in the python apt bindings "Quantal failed to install: ubiquity crashed in apt/progress/text.py in pulse: OverflowError: Python int too large to convert to C long" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1030278
15:05:03 <jodh> We both added some new tests to python-apt to avoid regressions.
15:05:06 <jodh> 𐤋
15:05:31 <barry> jodh: just using my western tz to its full advantage :)
15:05:34 <barry> handed off most of the remaining work on the gwibber py3 port, though i will still gatekeep merge proposals.  bug 1056820.  bug 1030278.  followed up with the folks doing the twisted py3 port; looks like 13.04 availability is a possibility, but more details have been requested.  uploaded python-mode 6.0.12 to sid.  looked a bit at bug 1031882.  investigated bug 938869, but this isn't a bug in python so it needs to be fixed in the vmware
15:05:34 <barry> scripts.  bug 1057886.  started looking at bug 935516 (ongoing).  investigating bug 1060489 (ongoing).  done.
15:05:37 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1056820 in libxml2 (Ubuntu Quantal) "feedparser ftbfs in quantal, test suite failures" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056820
15:05:40 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1031882 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Quantal) "precise->quantal upgrade fails, with a UnicodeDecodeError" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031882
15:05:41 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 938869 in python3.2 (Ubuntu) "lsb_release crashed with SIGABRT in Py_FatalError()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/938869
15:05:42 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1057886 in dpkg (Ubuntu Quantal) "dpkg-source regression when a patch removes all files from a directory" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1057886
15:05:43 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 935516 in genshi (Ubuntu Precise) "genshi version 0.6-2 FTBFS on i386 in precise" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/935516
15:05:45 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1060489 in claws-mail-extra-plugins (Ubuntu) "FTBFS due to build-dep conflicts" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1060489
15:08:14 <ev> at a webops sprint all week
15:08:23 <ev> been charming the errors.ubuntu.com infrastructure
15:08:31 <ev> and unbreaking the retracers (damn you dpkg -x)
15:08:48 <ev> also working on moving daisy.ubuntu.com to backing to S3
15:08:50 <ev> instead of NFS
15:09:04 <ev> at the request of IS
15:09:06 <ev> (done)
15:09:16 <slangasek> cjohnston:
15:09:18 <slangasek> er
15:09:18 <slangasek> cjwatson:
15:09:26 <cjwatson> Fixed various cdimage publishing bugs exposed by beta-2.
15:09:26 <cjwatson> Lots of rls-q-tracking bug work, too many to list, including finally adding /etc/default/grub.d/, various i18n/l10n bugs, etc.  Still trying to sort out d-i lowmem issues.
15:09:30 <cjwatson> Sponsoring various arm64 config.guess/sub fixes from Wookey.  More to come.
15:09:32 <slangasek> cjohnston: have you considered a stage name
15:09:33 <cjwatson> Progressive rebuild of remaining packages in armel/main for ARMv5t.
15:09:35 <cjwatson> +1 maintenance this month.  Mostly working on build fixes.  eclipse-* was a particularly exciting cluster to unstick.
15:09:38 <cjwatson> .
15:10:18 <ScottK> unstick is a nice euphemism.
15:10:18 <cjwatson> barry: I happened to notice that at least some twisted.trial py3 support was upstream now
15:10:31 <infinity> * Done this week:
15:10:31 <infinity> - Beta 2 released
15:10:31 <infinity> - Kernel SRU wrangling
15:10:31 <infinity> - Other SRU and AA tasks
15:10:31 <infinity> - gtkhtml4.0 transition, linux-armadaxp license review, dpkg bugfix, vmware-view and sbsigntool version bumps, etc
15:10:34 <infinity> - working on a new eglibc SRU to replace the one superseded by the last security update
15:10:37 <infinity> - (Re-)enable bootstrap archives for Colin's unbreaking of various bits
15:10:40 <infinity> ☭
15:10:42 <barry> cjwatson: yep, they mentioned that was a blocker for continued work
15:10:48 <ogra_> russian !
15:10:48 <slangasek> ev: S3> if this is done, does this mean they no longer care how much space it takes p? :)
15:10:51 <slangasek> up
15:11:05 <ev> slangasek: hahaha
15:11:08 <ev> this is for the core files
15:11:13 <ev> which at the moment get deleted
15:11:24 <ev> though I suspect it'll make the argument for keeping them around easier
15:11:55 <slangasek> :)
15:12:01 <xnox> slangasek: there is a setting to tab-complete nicknames based on frequency instead of pure alphabetical order.
15:12:12 <cjwatson> Oh, I forgot: currently working on some build log analysis for hardening flag regressions.  Not sure how far I'll have time to get.
15:12:25 <slangasek> ev: so if that goes smoothly, we may want to talk about whether to do the same for ddebs.u.c
15:13:08 <xnox> slangasek: well since servercloud has nice swift mirrors backed by S3 already, it should be doable for a "normal" apt-getable archive.
15:13:30 <slangasek> xnox: your turn :)
15:13:33 <xnox> * rls-q-tracking:
15:13:33 <xnox> - sponsor fix for bug 1056350
15:13:33 <xnox> - test and upload mvo's workaround for bug 1015567 and opened bug 1057367 for followup.
15:13:33 <xnox> - mark bug 1046627 as invalid, because biggest_free was used instead
15:13:33 <xnox> of actually resizing.
15:13:34 <xnox> - disable failing svn tests to fix FTBFS bug 1056728 (needs new
15:13:36 <xnox> upstream release packaged, to late for quantal). But doko is
15:13:38 <xnox> working on a better/proper fix git-svn and re-enable test-suites.
15:13:39 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1056350 in BzrTools "build failure on quantal" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056350
15:13:40 <xnox> - Ubiquity: Change calculate_reuse_option logic to allow upgrading development
15:13:40 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1015567 in dpkg (Ubuntu Quantal) "upgrade failed: mixed non-coinstallable and coinstallable package instances present" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1015567
15:13:42 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1057367 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "please upgrade status database to remove mixed non-coinstallable and coinstallable packages" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1057367
15:13:42 <xnox> releases to final/newer. bug 1050562
15:13:43 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1046627 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "Install Ubuntu XX.XX alongside SYSTEM YY screen missing" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1046627
15:13:44 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1056728 in git (Ubuntu Quantal) "git-svn needs an update for subversion 1.7.x (build-time test suite failure)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056728
15:13:44 <xnox> - partman-crypto: Move unsafe_swap checks from commit.d to check.d bug 1056707
15:13:45 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1050562 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "Reuse recipe (in-place upgrade/reinstall) isn't given as an option" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1050562
15:13:46 <xnox> - Fix reuse options (were not working) in partman-auto bug 1050562
15:13:46 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1056707 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) ""Unsafe swap space detected" dialog displayed too late if swap is created after an encrypted partition and makes manual partitioner unusable" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056707
15:13:48 <xnox> * ubiquity adv-lvm:
15:13:50 <xnox> - almost done, going through all the different paths of vg/lv
15:13:52 <xnox> manipulation. merge proposal will come soon.
15:13:54 <xnox> * blocked on combination of orca / at-spi / gtk / ubiquity-dm being
15:13:58 <xnox> broken. See bug 1056300
15:14:00 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1056300 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "orca quits reading after the welcome screen in ubiquity" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056300
15:14:00 <xnox> * Off to see my parents Fri-Mon, expecting limited internet
15:14:02 <xnox> connectivity. (GMT+2)
15:14:14 <xnox> </done>
15:14:55 <bdmurray> bug triage of update-manager / ubuntu-release-upgrader bugs
15:14:55 <bdmurray> tested bugs 1056895, 1059172, 1058102
15:14:55 <bdmurray> ubuntu-release-upgrader upload fixing apport and apt-clone attachments
15:14:55 <bdmurray> ubuntu-release-upgrader uploads fixing bugs 1039484, 1045579, 1059403, 1060353
15:14:57 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1058102 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Quantal) "The strings in "ubuntu-release-upgrader" is not translated in UI" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1058102
15:14:58 <bdmurray> apport modification to include python env variables
15:15:01 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1059172 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashes when displaying error dialog" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1059172
15:15:02 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1056895 in apport (Ubuntu Quantal) "ubiquity apport hook crashes" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056895
15:15:04 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1039484 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Quantal) "Accents in sources.list breaks do-release-upgrade" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039484
15:15:04 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1060353 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "DistUpgradeApport.py causes an apport assertion error" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1060353
15:15:05 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1045579 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Precise) "software-properties-gtk makes a change resulting in a conf file prompt on upgrade that's unnecessary" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1045579
15:15:06 <bdmurray> discovered an issue with DistUpgradeApport.py and assertion errors due to / in key names for attachments
15:15:07 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1059403 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "dist-upgrade.py returns 1 due to /var/log/dist-upgrade/* not found in P2Q server upgrades" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1059403
15:15:09 <bdmurray> reported bug 1060353 regarding DistUpgradeApport.py and wrote a testcase for it
15:15:12 <bdmurray> tested plymouth bug 1056468
15:15:12 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1056468 in linux (Ubuntu) "monitor inactive during plymouth animation (radeon, fallback to /dev/fb0)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056468
15:15:23 <bdmurray> ✔ done ✔
15:18:44 <slangasek> * pam-xdg-support: landed, has been seeded, ubuntu-meta upload needed
15:18:44 <slangasek> * ironed out final details on SB signing
15:18:44 <slangasek> * fielded some new bugs after the asynchronous mountall upload
15:18:44 <slangasek> * bug #1059471
15:18:44 <slangasek> * bug #1060296
15:18:46 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1059471 in mountall (Ubuntu) "2.41 fails to mount root partition" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1059471
15:18:46 <slangasek> * SB shim: still in progress, should be uploaded today
15:18:47 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1060296 in mountall (Ubuntu) "'df /' reports Filesystem '-'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1060296
15:18:49 <slangasek> (then it gets submitted to MS for signing)
15:19:02 <slangasek> (done)
15:19:21 <slangasek> stokachu: your turn
15:19:24 <stokachu> bug 977959 - needs sponsor for precise
15:19:26 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 977959 in libgnome (Ubuntu Precise) "Please transition libgnome to multi-arch" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/977959
15:19:26 <stokachu> bug 1036834 - needs sponsor
15:19:27 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1036834 in gdb (Ubuntu Precise) "gdb should be marked "Multi-arch: allowed"" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036834
15:19:28 <stokachu> bug 1013211 - needs FFe or needs to be pushed back to updates
15:19:29 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1013211 in libgnomecanvas (Ubuntu Precise) "[FFe] Please transition libgnomecanvas to multi-arch" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013211
15:19:30 <stokachu> bug 683640 - needs sponsor for precise
15:19:32 <stokachu> bug 1053306 - needs sponsor for precise
15:19:32 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 683640 in lsb (Ubuntu Precise) "status_of_proc is returning incorrect error code" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683640
15:19:34 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1053306 in open-iscsi (Ubuntu Precise) "iscsiadm hangs in recvmsg()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1053306
15:19:34 <stokachu> bug 932860 - building and testing as of now
15:19:35 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 932860 in appmenu-gtk (Ubuntu Precise) "Broken (or missing) multiarch support" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/932860
15:19:39 <cjwatson> slangasek: Do you know how long the signing is expected to take?
15:19:52 <slangasek> someone said last week they were going to look at those multiarch sponsorship bugs, was it doko?
15:20:18 <stokachu> done
15:20:26 <slangasek> (who is not here due to German holiday)
15:20:32 <xnox> stokachu: are all of those fix released in quantal?
15:20:38 <ogra_> done:
15:20:39 <ogra_> * fixed cdrom-detect bug (bug 1028905)
15:20:39 <ogra_> * input issues for d-i were fixed (thanks paolo for adding the udeb to omap3)
15:20:39 <ogra_> * worked on an nvidia-tegra driver update, sadly the upstream release is broken (no versions in SONAMES), waiting on a fix
15:20:39 <ogra_> from nvidia and pondering to upload a driver without GLES support for better SRUability
15:20:40 <ogra_> * got dragged into a new internal project, waiting for HW
15:20:41 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1028905 in debian-installer-utils (Ubuntu Quantal) "cdrom-detect in quantal omap4 hangs trying to look for install media on an extended partition" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028905
15:20:42 <ogra_> * thanks stgraber for taking over bug 984276
15:20:44 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 984276 in casper (Ubuntu Precise) "installing casper on a non live system causes update-initramfs to fail" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984276
15:20:46 <ogra_> * fixed upgrade issue with software-properties-gtk
15:20:48 <ogra_> todo:
15:20:50 <ogra_> * get some ideas for arm specific blueprints
15:20:52 <ogra_> * fix flash-kernel ability to manually force a kernel version for manual downgrades (bug 1056206)
15:20:53 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1056206 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu) "3.0~rc.4ubuntu23: cannot flash an old (previous Q) kernel" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056206
15:20:54 <ogra_> * finish wikipages for the release
15:20:56 <ogra_> ..
15:21:14 <stokachu> xnox: 977959,683640,1053306 or in qu antal
15:21:18 <stokachu> are*
15:21:24 <stgraber> - ISO tracker
15:21:24 <xnox> stokachu: ok.
15:21:24 <stgraber> - Fixed a bug in the time range filter, got IS to deploy in production.
15:21:27 <stgraber> - Container
15:21:30 <stgraber> - Upstream work, reviewing patches, maintaining staging branch. Starting cherry-pick of fixes for 0.8 upstream release.
15:21:33 <stgraber> - Blogged about the new API: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/09/28/introducing-the-python-lxc-api/
15:21:36 <stgraber> - Helped utlemming setup a script similar to post-qa but for the cloud images
15:21:39 <stgraber> - Release
15:21:41 <stgraber> - Some beta 2 work
15:21:44 <stgraber> - Quite a bunch of queue reviews
15:21:46 <stgraber> - Some FFe/UIFe reviews
15:21:49 <stgraber> - Networking
15:21:51 <stgraber> - Some more thoughts on getting NM to talk to unbound, looked at the API, may try to write a plugin later.
15:21:54 <stgraber> - Fixed madwimax's broken dhclient handling in quantal and precise (was messing with resolvconf)
15:21:57 <stgraber> - Installer
15:22:00 <stgraber> - UIFe for the slideshow, reviewed the changes, re-generate the templates, imported the new translations and uploaded
15:22:03 <stgraber> - Fixed bug 898787
15:22:05 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 898787 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "(k|l|x)ubuntu 11.10 failed to install with error in install_misc.py assert cache._depcache.broken_count == 0" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898787
15:22:05 <stgraber> - Went through the high priority casper bugs and fixed a bunch of them: bug 946406, bug 984276, bug 423616, bug 476208 and bug 747888
15:22:08 <stgraber> - Started preparing the next set of casper fixes, planning another upload later today.
15:22:09 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 946406 in casper (Ubuntu Precise) "suspect race condition Keyboard layout, oem-config not set on persistent USB image" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/946406
15:22:11 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 984276 in casper (Ubuntu Precise) "installing casper on a non live system causes update-initramfs to fail" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984276
15:22:11 <stgraber> - Briefly discussed foundations-q-autocreate-preseed with Colin, will try to get some basic implementation during my trip tomorrow
15:22:13 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 423616 in casper (Ubuntu) "casper boot doesn't work with some boot options" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/423616
15:22:14 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 476208 in casper (Ubuntu) "casper booting from nfsroot doesn't respect nfs filesystem options correctly" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/476208
15:22:14 <stgraber> 
15:22:15 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 747888 in casper (Ubuntu) "casper script 25configure_init clobbers 22serialtty, serial console nearly unusable" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/747888
15:22:17 <stgraber> - Travel/Schedule
15:22:19 <stgraber> - I'll be at the LTSP hackfest tomorrow and Friday, available on IRC when not traveling.
15:22:22 <stgraber> - Monday is a bank holiday.
15:22:25 <stgraber> - I'll be off Thursday and Friday next week, traveling to Europe, will then work on European timezone until UDS.
15:22:28 <stgraber> (DONE)
15:22:31 <ogra_> stgraber, hug everyone from me
15:22:39 <stgraber> ogra_: will do
15:22:52 <ogra_> and send greetings to speedbump
15:22:55 <ogra_> :)
15:23:02 <slangasek> ogra_: when is your hw for the "internal project" due to arrive?
15:23:11 <cjwatson> stgraber: Are you fixing bug 1058179 in addition to having diagnosed it, or should I follow up on that?
15:23:13 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1058179 in ubuntu-defaults-zh-cn (Ubuntu Quantal) "Incomplete language install (language-pack-zh-hans: 1:12.10+20120920)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1058179
15:23:18 <ogra_> slangasek, it said 3-5 workdays
15:23:25 <slangasek> phooey, that's a long time
15:23:34 <xnox> stokachu: make sure ubuntu-sponsors are subscribed, those three 977959,683640,1053306 don't and hence are not in the http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ and hence fell out of my radar of "easy sponsorship tasks" I try to do in evenings =)
15:23:35 <ogra_> slangasek, though its not clear yet that i ordered the right thing :P
15:23:52 <ogra_> seemingly there is some confusion ... i might end up with both :)
15:23:53 <slangasek> you didn't request the SCHNELL SCHNELL shipping option?
15:24:00 <ogra_> lol
15:24:04 <ev> slangasek: random stats: we're currently using 1.2 TB with 2.2 TB free. We're effectively doubling that (going from three nodes in Cassandra to six).
15:24:05 <stgraber> cjwatson: I'll see how fixable it's, but I'm expecting a similar mess as 12.04.1 where the image gets really big really quickly
15:24:11 <ogra_> no offer for that
15:24:22 <stokachu> xnox: ? ive been assigning ubuntu-sru
15:24:30 <slangasek> ev: that's apropos the crash pruning?
15:24:31 <stokachu> they are notified of all changes is that not correct?
15:24:36 <stgraber> cjwatson: I assigned it to me now so I don't forget
15:24:53 <infinity> stokachu: ubuntu-sru doesn't sponsor things, just review/accept uploads.
15:25:03 <infinity> stokachu: (Well, we *can* sponsor things, but that's not the point of the group)
15:25:08 <stokachu> ah
15:25:09 <ev> slangasek: that's the amount of space in use on each node
15:25:13 <ev> (we have replication set to 3)
15:25:16 <stokachu> lol so what group should I be adding?
15:25:19 <stokachu> just ubuntu-sponsors?
15:25:25 <ev> we don't save the core files right now
15:25:29 <ev> once they're retraced, they're deleted
15:25:30 <cjwatson> stgraber: I was hoping that size would be less of an issue now
15:25:41 <slangasek> ev: ok - so how fast are we burning through the space at this point? :) Does it grow linearly?
15:25:48 <cjwatson> stgraber: But we should certainly establish that the things QA is testing for agree with what the owners of this image think they want to offer :-)
15:26:10 <cjwatson> stokachu: Just ubuntu-sponsors, yes
15:26:25 <stokachu> ahhh no wonder
15:26:26 <infinity> stokachu: ubuntu-sponsors, if you need a sponsor, ubuntu-sru as well, if it's an SRU bug, though the latter often happens automagically when we run tools to accept things from the queue anyway.
15:26:35 <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs
15:26:49 <slangasek> [LINK] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html
15:26:53 <cjwatson> stokachu: Right, it doesn't hurt to subscribe ubuntu-sru as well but it basically doesn't help
15:26:53 <xnox> stokachu: you need both for SRU: debdiff -> unapproved queue -> accepted in -proposed. Sponsors for the first hop, SRU team for the second hop.
15:26:54 <stokachu> ah ok awesome, makes sense now
15:26:58 <ev> slangasek: doubling every six months
15:26:59 <stgraber> cjwatson: well, IIRC if we actually include everything, we're talking about almost 100MB (all chinese langpacks + dictionaries + ibus tables + the same for english)
15:27:16 <stokachu> excellent, makes sense now thanks
15:27:25 <slangasek> ev: ew?
15:27:26 <stokachu> ill get them assigned to the sponsors queue
15:27:41 <bdmurray> subscribed not assigned
15:27:46 <stgraber> cjwatson: anyway, I'll take a look after the meeting, will fix the package and see how big the difference will be
15:27:56 <slangasek> I thought I was being conservative with the suggestion of linear growth :P
15:28:01 <xnox> stokachu: can't we afford that in chinese-quantal image at the expense of non-chinese langpacks?
15:28:18 <cjwatson> You mean stgraber not stokachu
15:28:27 <xnox> yes.
15:28:41 <slangasek> so our targeted bug count is certainly looking better this week
15:28:47 <cjwatson> And I don't think langpacks come close to offsetting additional language *support*
15:28:49 <slangasek> but as cjwatson pointed out, it's still high
15:28:54 <xnox> stgraber: can't we afford that in chinese-quantal image at the expense of non-chinese langpacks?
15:29:01 <slangasek> looks like we're down from ~60 to 41
15:29:09 <cjwatson> 20 priority High
15:29:29 <cjwatson> Anyone know what's happening with these apt gpg bugs?
15:29:34 <stgraber> xnox: there's no easy way to remove langpacks as the image is built with ubuntu-defaults-builder, not our usual tools and ultimately the problem is that we can't remove the english langpack as various bits depend on en_US.UTF-8 being around (instead of just using C.UTF-8)
15:29:47 <slangasek> cjwatson: I've seen activity on them from mvo
15:30:00 <cjwatson> Can we assign him to them?
15:30:09 * xnox wants to target some bugs to r-series, and if fixed in r, sru into quantal.
15:30:13 <xnox> (the acient onces)
15:30:37 <stokachu> xnox: how often does this report get generated
15:30:40 <ev> slangasek: :) iz webops problem
15:30:42 <infinity> slangasek: The eglibc one's being done today.
15:30:50 <xnox> cjwatson: about apt-gpg bugs, it wasn't clear to me if it's all fix-released or partitially solved. since there were security uploads done.
15:31:09 <bdmurray> stokachu: the rls-q-tracking one is hourly
15:31:10 <slangasek> cjwatson: bug #1016643 has had SRUs for software-properties in friends; maybe the apt task is no longer relevant?
15:31:11 <cjwatson> xnox: If you're planning on SRUing things into quantal post-release, please set the milestone to quantal-updates so that that's immediately clear from the report
15:31:11 <xnox> stokachu: Last updated at: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 15:09:36 -0000. My guess is every hour?
15:31:13 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1016643 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "add-apt-repository downloads gpg key in an insecure fashion" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1016643
15:31:19 <cjwatson> slangasek: Indeed, I don't know
15:31:24 <stokachu> ok cool thanks
15:31:31 <cjwatson> And bug 1013681 has been stagnant for a while
15:31:33 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1013681 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "make apt-key net-update secure" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013681
15:31:37 <slangasek> bdmurray: hmm, why did we agree to be responsible for fontconfig? :)
15:31:53 <xnox> slangasek: I heard Laney likes fontconfig a lot =)
15:32:06 <slangasek> cjwatson: so 1013681 doesn't seem tied to the release, I'm going to -notfixing it
15:32:14 <bdmurray> slangasek: having it appear in the spreadsheet doesn't mean agree ;-)
15:32:23 <infinity> slangasek: but #1008777 may or may not be a bug/misfeature, but it almost certainly doesn't need to be targetted and tracked as special.
15:32:24 <cjwatson> slangasek: sounds good to me
15:33:16 <cjwatson> I would love the report to notice that bug 1053770 is assigned to James Page and maybe that ought to override its own idea of which team it belongs to
15:33:18 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1053770 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Quantal) "ubuntu-server install takes up too much space" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1053770
15:33:46 <slangasek> bdmurray: can you bump that over to desktop in the spreadsheet?
15:33:59 <bdmurray> slangasek: sure
15:34:07 <bdmurray> cjwatson: noted regarding the report
15:34:33 <cjwatson> Of course, you win some you lose some, since we'd gain at least one bug from elsewhere that way
15:34:40 <slangasek> infinity: 1008777> undecided+incomplete, that's not really one we're worrying about as-is (it was clearly targeted by the community, not through the rls-q-incoming queue)
15:35:29 <bdmurray> slangasek: it was targetted by vanhoof
15:35:44 <cjwatson> Yeah, I'm basically ignoring stuff from Medium on down for the purposes of worrying about the count
15:36:08 <slangasek> bug #1026778 filled me with maintainer-script-induced rage; I think we should untarget it
15:36:10 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1026778 in dictionaries-common (Ubuntu Quantal) "Package does not upgrade cleanly from precise" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1026778
15:36:13 <cjwatson> So as far as I'm concerned the current report says we have 20 RC bugs
15:36:22 <slangasek> bdmurray: right, but I don't think he was meaning to ask us to fix it
15:36:59 <cjwatson> slangasek: Agreed, at least pending the information requested some weeks ago
15:37:07 <bdmurray> slangasek: oh, so if he was doing it right he would have tagged it?
15:37:17 <slangasek> bdmurray: yeah
15:37:31 <slangasek> I think he was targeting it for his /own/ team to work on :)
15:37:46 <xnox> jodh: bug 740390 is interesting, but to be solved not in upstart package?! But still interesting bug.
15:37:48 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 740390 in dbus (Ubuntu Quantal) "libdbus-1-3 upgrade does not respawn init, resulting in unclean shutdown" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/740390
15:38:12 <cjwatson> xnox: Yes, until stateful-reexec lands, the handful of libraries that upstart itself uses need to do this
15:38:13 <slangasek> untargeting 1017001; still a problem, but only a trickle of bug reports and there's no reason to expect problems here for precise->quantal
15:38:46 <xnox> cjwatson: ok. so I got it right that stateful reexec solves this generically.
15:38:47 <cjwatson> jodh: libnih* has the same problem, FWIW
15:39:25 <slangasek> cjwatson: last comment on 1013681 has you mentioning sudo access on pepo, which we have back now... should we take the server side of that on, or leave it to webops?
15:39:48 <jodh> cjwatson: ta - I'll take a look.
15:40:06 <xnox> cjwatson: 20 - 2 incomplete = 18 ;-)
15:40:28 <cjwatson> slangasek: We should probably take it, but I have a vague memory that it required master key access
15:40:44 <cjwatson> Which puts it past the 12.10 timeframe anyway
15:40:49 <slangasek> ok
15:41:33 * jodh wonders if we need a dh_reexecinit ?
15:41:38 <slangasek> no
15:41:41 <cjwatson> There are only a handful of libraries here
15:41:49 <cjwatson> No need to invent new infrastructure for them
15:41:55 <slangasek> we need stateful re-exec, and a quick fix for the 4 library packages affected
15:42:29 <cjwatson> 3, since libc has handled this for years
15:42:53 <slangasek> yep
15:43:26 <cjwatson> So one-liner in three postinsts, move on
15:43:39 * slangasek nods
15:44:02 <stgraber> cjwatson: turns out I forgot to push the changes we SRUed at the last minute for 12.04.1 to quantal, so I'm just going to bring the two ubuntu-defaults-zh-cn back in sync which should fix the bug in the process
15:44:12 <cjwatson> stgraber: Ah, OK, great
15:44:55 * xnox \0/
15:45:05 <slangasek> so, having turfed 1026778 I guess I'll take another one
15:45:08 <cjwatson> In fact I see that Marc has done libdbus-1-3 in -proposed
15:45:13 <cjwatson> Which I'll copy to quantal nowish
15:45:26 <cjwatson> So it's just libnih to fix
15:45:26 <slangasek> maybe bug #1051110 unless someone else wants to look at that one
15:45:28 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1051110 in update-manager (Ubuntu Quantal) "ucf debconf prompt lands in hidden terminal instead of using gnome frontend" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1051110
15:45:56 <bdmurray> slangasek: I'm interested in that one
15:46:14 <slangasek> bdmurray: interested in taking it, or in having me resolve it? :)
15:46:28 <bdmurray> slangasek: having a go at it ;-)
15:47:17 <slangasek> bdmurray: ok, be my guest!
15:47:24 <barry> one suggestion, though probably everyone already does this.  if you're looking at a bug, assign it to yourself so we don't step on each others toes.  you can always unassign it if you punt
15:47:28 <xnox> slangasek: bdmurray: well I comment on it, with potential duplicates =) it's not new ;-)
15:47:57 <slangasek> xnox: it's new behavior here for me
15:48:37 <slangasek> xnox: the bug I'm reporting is *not* about the terminal not auto-expanding; it's about the wrong debconf frontend being used here
15:48:51 <bdmurray> bug 1052605 will fall off the next time the report is created
15:48:52 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1052605 in update-manager (Ubuntu Quantal) "ERROR:root:getListFromFile: no '/usr/share/update-manager/removal_blacklist.cfg' found: exception during Precise to Quantal upgrade" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052605
15:49:32 <cjwatson> Yeah, that was due to collisions in the queue I believe.  Thanks for cleaning that up.
15:50:50 <bdmurray> Oh and bug 1058102 will get added
15:50:52 <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1058102 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Quantal) "The strings in "ubuntu-release-upgrader" is not translated in UI" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1058102
15:50:53 <xnox> slangasek: I see the distinction now. But surely you'd never need terminal to auto-expand if all questions correctly used the GUI debconf frontend.
15:51:41 <infinity> xnox: You're assuming all questions are debconf. :P
15:51:47 <slangasek> xnox: the auto-expanding is still needed in case of bugs
15:51:51 <cjwatson> Indeed.  Consider conffile prompts.
15:52:05 <slangasek> conffile prompts are also proxied by update-manager to the gui :)
15:52:19 * cjwatson stands corrected
15:52:26 <slangasek> anyway, I think we've devoured that bug list adequately for today
15:52:29 <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
15:52:32 <slangasek> Anything else?
15:53:04 <barry> monday is a usa holiday but i'll probably swap it and work
15:53:19 <infinity> Canadia too, and I think I'll take it. :P
15:53:27 <ogra_> pfft
15:53:28 <bdmurray> I'm swapping it also
15:53:29 <ogra_> holidays
15:53:57 * xnox booked a holiday
15:54:17 <xnox> I can see how monday will not go wrong.
15:55:05 <slangasek> I'll be off Monday
15:55:08 <slangasek> so enjoy :)
15:55:23 <slangasek> #endmeeting