#title #ubuntu-meeting: ubuntu-server-team Meeting started by utlemming at 16:01:38 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-07-17-16.01.log.html . == Meeting summary == *Review ACTION points from previous meeting ''ACTION:'' arosales and daviey to work on trend line reset (utlemming, 16:07:01) *Quantal Development ''LINK:'' http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-arm.html (arosales, 16:12:02) ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-push-to-the-clouds (arosales, 16:12:43) ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review (arosales, 16:13:23) ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-charms (arosales, 16:15:21) ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-init-utils - smoser? (arosales, 16:17:07) ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-apt-improvements (arosales, 16:18:21) ''ACTION:'' everyone update their blueprint status (utlemming, 16:20:38) *Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html *12.04.1 Development (jamespage & smoser) ''LINK:'' http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/precise-sru.html (smoser, 16:23:36) ''LINK:'' http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/precise-sru.html (jamespage, 16:23:36) *Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html Meeting ended at 20:26:06 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * arosales and daviey to work on trend line reset * everyone update their blueprint status == Action items, by person == * arosales ** arosales and daviey to work on trend line reset == People present (lines said) == * arosales (57) * czajkowski (36) * huats (28) * toddy (28) * utlemming (27) * jamespage (26) * Daviey (19) * SergioMeneses (13) * SpamapS (12) * rbasak (11) * smoser (11) * ubottu (10) * zul (10) * apollo13 (8) * adam_g (7) * xdatap1 (6) * meetingology (6) * Fuchs (6) * roaksoax (5) * Lasall (5) * itnet7 (5) * tomx3 (4) * JoseeAntonioR (4) * MarkusH (3) * njin (2) * svij (2) * jokrebel (2) * hexe25 (2) * hallyn (2) * march (1) * Ursinha (1) == Full Log == 16:01:38 #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team 16:01:38 Meeting started Tue Jul 17 16:01:38 2012 UTC. The chair is utlemming. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:01:38 16:01:38 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 16:01:51 Welcome everyone to our server meeting! 16:01:59 #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting 16:02:27 hiho 16:02:31 jamespage: you had an action to checkin with MIR team on expected review timescales for server MIRs 16:02:56 and zul to make sure relevant MIR bugs have ubuntu-server-release subscribed 16:02:58 most MIR's are now assigned an owner - there are a few I still need to checkin on 16:03:09 utlemming: oops 16:03:28 I also went through the MIR team subscribed bugs and added the 'Ubuntu Server Team' a bug subscription for those packages 16:04:00 so I think the list is now up-to-date in http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html 16:04:29 jamespage: is there any further action on that? Or do we need to carry it over for next week? 16:04:31 i have at least 5 more dependencies coming up, still need to be reviewed by an archvie admin 16:04:51 there is but the original action got me todo the important stuff so please close 16:05:10 I'll keep pushing on this stuff - lets monitor through the development update section 16:05:14 zul: do we need followup next week? 16:05:33 utlemming: no i can do that once they get into the archive 16:05:41 okay, moving on... 16:05:50 arosales: had an action to sort out blueprints and get the trend line working correctly 16:06:03 arosale: do you have a status update for us? 16:06:09 I spoke with Daviey on the topic mapping 16:06:18 I need to get the trend line reset 16:06:29 I'll try to get that done this week. 16:07:01 #action arosales and daviey to work on trend line reset 16:07:01 * meetingology arosales and daviey to work on trend line reset 16:07:29 inpreogressy-done-ish 16:07:35 smoser, jamespage: had an action for review and assign SRU bug across team. 16:07:40 done 16:08:11 okay, rbasak: find out whether openvswitch module can be enabled for quantal ARM kernels 16:08:33 utlemming, mark that done - kernel team confirmed they would review 16:09:04 jamespage: ack 16:09:10 #topic Quantal Development 16:09:48 Any topics for Quantal Development? 16:09:57 A few for Blueprints 16:10:06 utlemming: may I interject? 16:10:15 arosales: please 16:10:35 So we should roughly be around 30% complete for BPs at this point in the cycle 16:10:48 there are a few that are at 0% 16:11:14 I'll step through those if you don't mind utlemming 16:11:34 ARM 16:11:42 rbask a few that are at 0% 16:12:02 http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-arm.html 16:12:06 specifically 16:12:14 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-server-benchmark-and-performance 16:12:14 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-arm-server-storage-testing 16:12:24 for rbasak for the log minutes 16:12:37 utlemming: push to the clouds 16:12:43 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-push-to-the-clouds 16:12:56 I think hardware is in progress there, other status up to date? 16:13:07 Bug Triage 16:13:23 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review 16:13:44 Ursinha: any update on reports for triage work? 16:13:58 Juju BPs 16:14:06 Charm release policy: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy 16:14:07 and 16:14:14 Charm Unit test: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests 16:14:29 SpamapS: I think you have made some progress on the release policy correct? 16:14:32 arosales, no updates now, maybe next week 16:14:53 m_3: I think you have also made some progressing on unit testing 16:15:00 Ursinha: ok, thanks 16:15:14 Openstack Juju Charms Next steps 16:15:21 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-charms 16:15:35 adam_g: how are the openstack charms? 16:15:59 arosales: the release policy was merged and is part of the official documentation for juju now 16:16:07 arosales: implementing it is another story. :) 16:16:20 arosales: they've been in sync with upstream development, but those TODOs are still TODO. 16:16:36 SpamapS: so 0% still valid for release policy 16:16:41 adam_g: we need to work on getting all of the actual openstack charms into the charm store, and having the CI tests running *off of those* 16:16:46 adam_g: ok, thanks 16:16:52 cloud-init 16:16:59 SpamapS: im not sure that'll work, but we'll talk 16:17:07 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-cloud-init-utils - smoser? 16:17:16 arosales: no I marked one of them DONE because the release policy is "done" 16:17:22 not a top priority, but at 0% so thought I would bring it up here 16:17:28 adam_g: if that won't work, then we should just dismantle the charm store. ;) 16:17:33 SpamapS: ok, thanks 16:17:45 arosales, i'll update that today. 16:17:53 smoser: ok thanks 16:17:58 and one last one for rbasak: 16:18:03 SpamapS: they are forks of the upstream charm store charms, with lots of special sauce added for our environment. isn't that the point? 16:18:06 perhaps you can also comment smoser 16:18:11 adam_g: no, forking == fail 16:18:14 adam_g: actively synced forks, i might add 16:18:14 apt 16:18:17 er 16:18:21 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-apt-improvements 16:18:23 SpamapS: lets talk later 16:18:27 adam_g: yeah we will 16:18:36 apt BP also at 0%, but I know there is a spec out for review. 16:18:54 I think we've more or less reached consensus on the broad plans for the apt improvements inside Ubuntu 16:19:14 So now I need to get back to full steam ahead on testing my PoC, and on turning the current productions into something that is production ready 16:19:18 rbasak: good to hear, could you also follow up on the ARM BPs mentioned above? 16:19:48 Sorry I was late to the meeting. I'll check the logs when they're published 16:20:06 rbasak: ok, thanks 16:20:06 utlemming: those are the 0% ones that I wanted to bring up. I realize some 0% is valid as we are working on the items but they can't be marked as done just yet. 16:20:18 utlemming: back to you 16:20:38 #action everyone update their blueprint status 16:20:38 * meetingology everyone update their blueprint status 16:20:55 #topic Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html 16:21:35 daviey: care to comment on the bug status? 16:22:36 okay, moving on then.... 16:22:39 #topic 12.04.1 Development (jamespage & smoser) 16:22:50 jamespage and smoser: how goes 12.04.1 16:22:59 utlemming: can we can come back to the bugs after 12.04.1 udpate 16:23:04 I added a couple of bugs for tracking 16:23:19 hm.. well, there is plenty of work todo. 16:23:20 arosales: yes sir 16:23:36 http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/precise-sru.html 16:23:36 http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/precise-sru.html 16:23:38 snap 16:23:45 * jamespage lets smoser lead 16:24:33 or at least I tried to add them. What is required to get bugs into the tracker? 16:24:37 well, given that list there, anything targetted, we really need to get cracking on 16:24:52 utlemming: sorry, had a brown out. 16:25:01 juju and maas have a lot, that we're expecting an update for. those are the single largest things. 16:25:18 but if your name is on osomething there, or you think you can help, please take a bug and fix it. 16:25:25 ask someone to review and / or upload. 16:25:26 Daviey: that was me yesterday...we'll come back to you after the current topic :) 16:25:29 RE: maas.. currently in discussions how to do this.. it is making progress. 16:25:34 smoser: note that most of juju's were moved to precise-updates 16:25:36 jamespage, do you have any more "GET IT DONE!" like comments? 16:25:48 smoser, I had a few specific bugs I would like to raise 16:25:54 please do. 16:26:01 bug 858867 16:26:03 Launchpad bug 858867 in cobbler (Ubuntu Quantal) "XMLRPC allows unauthed users access to various methods (which it shouldn't) " [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/858867 16:26:16 there's a security upload coming for juju, and then one more upload to proposed to fix a few of the more important things for 12.04.1 16:27:05 this one has been kicked around for a while; as cobbler does not form part of our provisioning solution going forward should we really care about this for 12.04.1 16:27:28 bug 988819 we just agreed to re-consider the approach 16:27:30 Launchpad bug 988819 in mod-proxy-html (Ubuntu Precise) "[SRU] wrong path to libxml2.so.2 in mod_security - broken by multiarch enabled libraries" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/988819 16:27:44 jamespage: err.. maas in 12.04 needs it 16:27:55 for 858867, i had asked roaksoax to ask upstream about this. 16:28:08 SpamapS, that really depends on ' RE: maas.. currently in discussions how to do this.. it is making progress.' 16:28:08 bug #990162 is a new one on the radar as well 16:28:10 Launchpad bug 990162 in The Eilt project "armhf version is unusable -- task switches will cause sigsegv's" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/990162 16:28:10 we really should ask upstream what they recommend. 16:28:38 and bug 975473 16:28:40 Launchpad bug 975473 in MAAS "eliminate cobbler code copy" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/975473 16:28:41 smoser sorry i got delayed with maas stuff, i'll take care of it today 16:28:55 ah 16:28:59 zul: 990162 is fixed in Quantal I hear? Is that confirmed? 16:29:03 jamespage: that is in progress, we might have something by EoW... but for quantal 16:29:11 rbasak: yeah 16:29:13 (maas-provision / cobbler-copy) 16:29:31 I guess targets for 12.04.1 still need to be agreed then. 16:29:37 rbasak: quantal has a newer version, but the fix should be backported to precise 16:30:04 zul, it would be good to get that webob SRU nailed as well. 16:30:18 * rbasak marks it as Fix Released in Quantal 16:30:18 jamespage: agreed ill spend some time on it tomorrow 16:30:34 other than that I would say that we have already pushed through a large number of SRU's 16:30:40 \o/ 16:30:48 well done! 16:31:04 nice :-) 16:31:08 james_w: which one? 16:31:27 okay, back Daviey 16:31:29 #topic Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html 16:32:03 bugs :-) 16:32:05 So.. the page is empty for me.. it was working :) 16:32:22 so we are still working on bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/974584 16:32:23 I'll investigate that 16:32:24 Launchpad bug 974584 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Quantal) "Semaphores cannot be created in lxc container" [High,Triaged] 16:32:42 hallyn: I saw a fix for that though . . . 16:32:44 stgraber was going to bring that up at the next foundations mt 16:32:46 mtg 16:32:58 hallyn: ok, thanks. 16:33:01 super 16:33:07 bug https://launchpad.net/bugs/1023066 16:33:09 Launchpad bug 1023066 in quantum (Ubuntu) "python-quantum fails to install due to python syntax errors" [High,Triaged] 16:33:33 jamespage: I saw you take an initial look 16:33:54 arosales: i fixed that quantum thing upstream, it should be fixed with the next quantum upload (this week?) 16:33:55 adam_g is on it 16:33:56 zul / adam_g: bug 1020313 16:33:58 Launchpad bug 1020313 in horizon (Ubuntu) "openstack-dashboard hijacks the web root" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1020313 16:34:06 adam_g: thanks 16:34:07 on it 16:34:38 bug 844995 .. volunteer ? 16:34:40 Launchpad bug 844995 in python-couchdb (Ubuntu) "Drop support for couchdb related packages" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/844995 16:34:49 shouldn't be super complicated 16:35:06 note that touches kombu as well 16:35:12 eh? 16:35:36 to drop python-couchdb to universe we have to drop support from kombu 16:35:44 bug 1024408 also needs a volunteer :-) 16:35:46 Launchpad bug 1024408 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Quantal installs do not include software-properties-common by default" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1024408 16:36:19 arosales: if nobody else takes that, i'll have it 16:36:29 * Daviey takes it 16:37:03 nobody want to sign up to, bug 844995 ? 16:37:05 Launchpad bug 844995 in python-couchdb (Ubuntu) "Drop support for couchdb related packages" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/844995 16:37:08 Ooh, I was going to propose that we did that 16:37:24 rbasak: do you want it? :) 16:37:29 Go on then 16:37:34 \o/ 16:38:04 rbasak: wait, which one do you want? 16:38:07 both? :) 16:38:07 FYI maas related MRI's are not being tracked on the report 16:38:11 1024408 16:38:17 err MIR 16:38:27 roaksoax, please let me know which bugs and packages - I'll get it sorted 16:39:01 jamespage: see the c-m report 16:39:14 jamespage: it just needs bug subscriptions to be added 16:39:25 Daviey, yeah - I know 16:39:26 err, PACKAGE bug subscriptions 16:49:44 oh noes, the meeting bot is here but the people aren't 18:20:25 Hi 19:56:44 hi there ;) 19:57:23 hi 19:57:51 hi hexe25 20:00:33 SergioMeneses: huats xdatap1 itnet7 ping 20:00:51 here we are 20:01:13 who is charing 20:01:38 don't all jump up at once :) 20:01:59 :) 20:02:29 good night everyone 20:02:32 sorry I am late 20:02:34 I can't sorry 20:02:47 itnet7: nods 20:02:51 huats, could you chair please? 20:02:58 here I am... good night guys 20:03:20 czajkowski: I can 20:03:30 even if I am a bit rusty with the commands 20:03:37 huats, thanks dude! 20:03:49 thanks huats \o/ 20:03:57 yay 20:04:20 ok 20:05:07 huats: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. 20:05:27 #chair huats 20:05:40 hallo everybody 20:06:10 #topic Germany reapproval 20:06:37 utlemming: can you please end your last meeting 20:06:41 (not sure if the bot got that right, since it err'd on your first command. Already a meeting running?) 20:06:55 yep I have just realized that 20:07:05 hey guys. Sorry for being late. I was stuck in traffic. 20:07:11 yup trying to kill that meeting 20:07:19 no problem, MarkusH :) 20:07:21 huats: just carry on 20:07:35 ok never mind for the bot 20:08:02 ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda 20:08:10 We have a busy meeting ! 20:08:36 hi huats 20:08:38 'LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GermanTeamReApprovalApplication2012 20:08:49 Is there anyone from Germany ? 20:09:00 hee are some of the german loco men and women 20:09:04 o/ 20:09:04 o/ 20:09:06 huats: from the german LoCo: yes, a few. 20:09:07 * tomx3 <-- here for example 20:09:09 o/ 20:09:10 o/ 20:09:12 welcome folks 20:09:14 hello ubuntu-germany 20:09:15 ok guys 20:09:15 thanks for coming 20:09:21 thanks for coming 20:09:40 great Ubuntu-de 20:09:41 Is there anyone who want to speak ? to explain us the main topics ? 20:09:44 and another german guy 20:10:26 or the main points from your reapproval ? 20:10:31 yes I can, huats 20:10:32 where are the german guys? :) 20:10:41 and another german woman :) 20:10:41 o/ 20:10:43 SergioMeneses: we are waiting for toddy to speak ;) 20:10:45 toddy: than go ahead :) 20:10:49 nice wiki page 20:10:55 Thanks. :) 20:10:57 welcome 20:11:01 thank you czajkowski 20:11:04 ok ok :=) 20:11:14 o/ 20:11:25 This year we are a little bit late with our application. Sorry for that. 20:11:32 toddy: thats fine 20:11:38 toddy, don't worry 20:11:39 so tell is about your loco, how things are done 20:12:14 we have a big loco with over 200 people in the group of the loco 20:12:44 and any more that are not organze in the loco group 20:13:17 we habe many groups (over 20) in Germany with have local meetings 20:13:41 nods 20:13:45 impressive 20:14:08 we have every year a big meeting, this year in Berlin 20:14:14 the ubucon 20:14:28 well done on useing the LTP http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-de-locoteam/events/history 20:14:35 On LinuxTag in Berlin we have made a nice Ubuntu Lounge with couches and we have had the biggest booth of all projects. 20:15:17 toddy: how do you organise you taking part? does everyone get involved ? 20:15:38 do you have any idea of the attendance of the ubucon ? 20:16:00 everybody can be a member in one of the groups of the locoteam 20:16:22 toddy: can you explain a bit more about the groups 20:16:27 and the groups are member of the locoteam (the orga in lanchpad) 20:17:06 toddy, could you tell us more about ubuntu Deutschland e.V.? 20:17:14 huats: 200 till 250 people are every year at the ubucon 20:17:21 or if anyone else wants to talk please do 20:17:27 in berlin maybe more 20:17:35 250 people!!! great 20:18:01 well done 20:18:07 Great work 20:18:10 great 20:18:13 czajkowski: there are different groups the ops of ubuntu-de (channel on freenode), the german portal ubuntuusers.de 20:18:18 czajkowski: the e.V. is a "eingetragener Verein", an organisational unit which helps you a lot in germany with legal, financial or logistical issues. 20:18:21 SergioMeneses: what do you want to know about the e.V. -- it's mainly a legal base for out stuff 20:18:24 our* 20:18:31 communtu, a built system for ubuntu, czajkowski 20:18:51 czajkowski: basically, if you want to have such a big organisation in germany you better register one of those, since else it's quite hard to manage. It is a legal entity and therefore also a contact point. 20:18:55 I have another question : (2 actually) is juliux still involved ? and how have you done the ubuntu-eu transition ? 20:18:56 apollo13, it is only for support? 20:19:03 Fuchs: oh interesting 20:19:13 SergioMeneses: no the e.V. is just for legal stuff, you can't do anything without it in germany 20:19:14 thanks for explaining 20:19:18 huats: yes juliux is still involved 20:19:38 huats: he is not here, couse he is at holiday 20:19:44 huats: transistion from what to where, ubuntu-eu still exists ;) 20:19:52 toddy: please say hi to him :) 20:19:55 if you mean the server structure 20:20:03 huats: I will do that :) 20:20:06 apollo13: that is what I meant :) 20:20:24 since we had a lot of team complaining with that 20:20:24 :) 20:20:33 apollo13, Fuchs great 20:20:34 SergioMeneses: for support there is ubuntuusers.de and mailinglists, that's also the reason why the page of the e.V. is pretty empty 20:20:46 apollo13, I see 20:20:50 (and the #ubuntu-de channel namespace) 20:21:11 ok, one last question, any issues you've had in the last 2 years and antying else we should know about ? 20:22:07 issues? just that linux-mint people think an ubuntu forum is the perfect place to ask about mint issues -_- *scnr* 20:22:18 :D 20:22:21 :D 20:22:23 hehe 20:22:23 :D 20:22:25 ;-) 20:22:27 apollo13, jaja 20:22:36 We have had problems to get ubuntu-cds ;-) 20:22:37 *grin* 20:22:47 tomx3: in what way ? 20:22:49 yes, tomx3 that is correct 20:22:55 like what? 20:23:08 we have order loco-cds and we didn't get this cds 20:23:14 czajkowski: juliux said that he has not got an answer to his order 20:23:31 but shipit people mailed recently and chased up on it, did you reply 20:23:39 and I have order too and I didn't get one cd 20:23:52 who is the team contact ? 20:23:56 and did they request it 20:24:06 juliux and me 20:24:17 hmm ok 20:24:33 toddy: can you please email shipit after the meeting and cc the loco council and we will chase up on it 20:24:43 I asked teams to do this last meeting also, but have not heard from them 20:24:51 I've no further questions 20:24:55 yes, i can do that, czajkowski :) 20:24:56 am ready to vote. 20:25:06 ready to vote too 20:25:12 ready 20:25:15 ready 20:25:18 ready 20:25:20 ok as the bot is not working 20:25:25 czajkowski: wait 20:25:26 please only coouncil members vote 20:25:28 I can fix that, I think 20:25:47 +1 20:25:51 JoseeAntonioR: you can kill the last meeting ? 20:25:54 +1 20:25:54 yeah 20:26:00 well done folks and keep up the good work 20:26:06 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)