#title #ubuntu-meeting Meeting Meeting started by skaet at 16:00:05 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-02-17-16.00.log.html . == Meeting summary == *Hardware Certification team update - mlegris ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000861.html (skaet, 16:03:54) *QA team update - jibel ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000858.html (skaet, 16:06:31) ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000858.html (jibel, 16:06:31) *Security team Q&A - mdeslaur ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000846.html (mdeslaur, 16:09:26) *Kernel team Q&A - ogasawara ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000847.html (ogasawara, 16:11:31) *Foundations team Q&A - cjwatson ''LINK:'' http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-foundations.html (cjwatson, 16:13:35) ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000865.html (cjwatson, 16:13:43) *Server team Q&A - arosales ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000867.html (arosales, 16:17:32) *ARM team Q&A - ogra_ ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000863.html (ogra_, 16:23:07) *Linaro team Q&A - fabo ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000866.html (fabo2, 16:27:59) *Ubuntu One Team Q&A - joshuahoover or ralsina ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000851.html (skaet, 16:35:04) ''LINK:'' http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20120217/ (pitti, 16:47:04) *Desktop Team Q&A - pitti ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000853.html (pitti, 16:51:32) *Unity Framework Team Q&A - dbarth *Unity Services and Settings Team Q&A - Cimi ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000855.html (Cimi, 16:58:26) *Kubuntu Team Q&A - Riddell ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000860.html (Riddell, 17:06:10) *Edubuntu Team Q&A - stgraber ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000849.html (stgraber, 17:09:36) *Xubuntu Team Q&A - madnick *Ubuntu Studio Team Q&A - scott-work *Lubuntu Team Q&A - gilir ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000862.html (gilir, 17:14:05) *MOTU Team Q&A - tumbleweed or Laney ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000868.html (after the meeting started, sorry) (tumbleweed, 17:16:02) ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000850.html (scott-work, 17:17:47) *Any other business, comments, questions? Meeting ended at 17:23:25 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * skaet (115) * Cimi (41) * pitti (27) * Riddell (22) * arosales (21) * ralsina (20) * dbarth (15) * fabo2 (13) * ogra_ (13) * dobey (13) * cjwatson (12) * stgraber (11) * mlegris (9) * scott-work (8) * mdeslaur (8) * ogasawara (7) * tumbleweed (5) * jibel (4) * ubottu (4) * meetingology (3) * gilir (3) * nessita (2) * Daviey (2) == Full Log == 16:00:05 #startmeeting 16:00:05 Meeting started Fri Feb 17 16:00:05 2012 UTC. The chair is skaet. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:00:05 16:00:05 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 16:00:44 * skaet just deleted her intro remarks... 16:00:58 hi everyone, sorry about this. cut/paste error on my part. 16:01:27 I'll reconstruct them and paste at end. 16:01:34 Agenda is in usual place 16:02:05 Thanks to everyone for getting the tested features in on time for feature freeze. 16:02:18 Upcoming Dates: 16:02:19 - 2012/06/23 - UserInterfaceFreeze 16:02:19 - 2012/06/23 - BetaFreeze at 2100 UTC 16:02:19 - 2012/02/02 - Beta 1 16:02:19 . 16:02:19 If time permits (ie. we end less than an hour), there will be a discussion at the end on some restructuring of this meeting, possibly using an open forum for Q&A rather than explicit round table. But for today, we'll continue with round table. 16:02:23 .. 16:02:57 [TOPIC] Hardware Certification team update - mlegris 16:03:39 1 second please :) 16:03:54 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000861.html 16:04:06 arg she beat me to it 16:04:24 so weekly testing hit a snag when we found a bug in bind9 16:04:41 any questions? 16:05:12 seeing none 16:05:13 .. 16:05:14 mlegris, not seeing the bind9 on your blocking list. what's the bug number? 16:05:34 skaet: it should be on the list I sent out, let me grab it 16:05:42 bug 923685 Installing resolvconf causes loss of manually entered nameserver information in resolv.conf 16:05:44 Launchpad bug 923685 in resolvconf (Ubuntu Precise) "Installing resolvconf causes loss of manually entered nameserver information in resolv.conf" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/923685 16:05:55 Thanks mlegris 16:06:00 np :) 16:06:16 [TOPIC] QA team update - jibel 16:06:31 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000858.html 16:06:31 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000858.html 16:06:36 thanks 16:06:39 :) 16:06:53 (I messed up the date again sorry) 16:07:05 mlegris: the bind issue is actually https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9/+bug/933723 (as noted in the last comment of 923685) 16:07:06 Launchpad bug 933723 in bind9 (Ubuntu) "resolvconf creating bogus resolv.conf file" [Low,New] 16:07:19 jibel, np. are all the images now working today after FF? 16:07:43 the boot speed testing issue is essentially fixed but needs a debian-installer upload to rebuild images 16:07:48 that one was my fault 16:07:50 skaet, yes 16:08:05 jibel, :) 16:08:35 * skaet sends big THANK YOU to the teams landing tested features!! 16:09:16 [TOPIC] Security team Q&A - mdeslaur 16:09:26 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000846.html 16:09:30 nothing further to report 16:09:32 any questions? 16:09:39 .. 16:09:42 Thanks mdeslaur. 16:09:44 :) 16:09:58 :) 16:10:32 any FFes needed for AppArmor? 16:10:42 (or have all the features landed now, and its just bugs) 16:10:52 skaet: yes, we'll need a FFe for the kernel changes 16:11:06 mdeslaur, ack. thanks 16:11:28 [TOPIC] Kernel team Q&A - ogasawara 16:11:31 [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000847.html 16:11:31 I intend to upload our Beta-1 kernel today. If there are any patches 16:11:31 which need to land, submit them immediately. 16:11:38 Questions? 16:11:39 .. 16:12:01 mdeslaur: jj pinged us to mention he hit a kitten killer with the apparmor patches so they'll be delayed. 16:12:14 Thanks ogasawara! 16:12:15 ogasawara: ah, thanks 16:12:24 poor kitten :) 16:12:25 any impact from the compiler change? 16:12:38 skaet: none that I'm aware. but I'll be kicking off test builds shortly. 16:12:43 thanks 16:13:02 [TOPIC] Foundations team Q&A - cjwatson 16:13:35 http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-foundations.html 16:13:39 Down pretty close to the trend line now. We'll probably postpone quite a few Upstart-related work items, but aside from that the remaining items are either things that don't need to land in the archive or things that amount to bugs rather than feature work. 16:13:43 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000865.html 16:13:46 Questions? 16:13:48 .. 16:13:55 o/ 16:13:56 yay, re trend line. :) 16:13:59 arosales: 16:14:01 cjwatson: lxc working better in your testing? 16:14:20 arosales: you'd have to talk to stgraber about that, but I haven't heard complaints 16:14:48 ok, I saw your update on new LXC with console/tty 16:15:06 cjwatson, any ETA on apport crash database FFE? 16:15:07 good to know you haven't heard any large complaints though. :-) 16:15:24 arosales: working pretty well, uploading a new upstart now that'll unlock a udev upload fixing some more LXC issues, but after that, it should be really good 16:15:37 arosales: (the issue the udev fixes is the flood of udev event reaching the host when a container starts) 16:16:06 skaet: I don't have a specific ETA at the moment; https://code.launchpad.net/~ev/apport/whoopsie/+merge/92753 has been clearly getting there apace and I think they're mostly cleaning up test breakage now 16:16:24 skaet: the impression I had from ev was that it was likely to be days over the deadline rather than weeks 16:16:39 stgraber: thanks for the info. Server team is doing some more work with OpenStack juju related to LXC 16:16:50 thanks cjwatson. :) days is what I was hoping to hear. 16:17:01 cjwatson: stgraber: thanks 16:17:24 [TOPIC] Server team Q&A - arosales 16:17:28 argh, got disconnected 16:17:30 right, I'm talkign to ev now 16:17:32 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000867.html 16:17:32 still working out some regressions 16:17:33 there are a few UI warts to shake out, but I'm ok with fixing them a bit later 16:17:48 ETA mid next week 16:18:25 Apologies for the late post. Good amount of effort around Openstack, and automated testing. Also spent some time tracking down the use case for OpenMPI. 16:18:36 Any questions? 16:18:47 .. 16:19:03 Thanks arosales. :) /me looking at it now. 16:19:28 * arosales apologizes again for the late post 16:19:46 Yeah, you are rubbish arosales :P 16:19:59 re: OpenMPI - ETA on FFE? 16:19:59 totally :-/ 16:20:25 pitti: ah, thanks for the specifics 16:20:33 skaet: Building right now. If not today (UK folks are working on it) then early next week. 16:21:00 arosales, coolio. Thanks. :) farther away from beta freeze, happier I am. :) 16:21:09 There is a significant rbuild-depends right... that is the concern? 16:21:20 skaet: We are working to keep the linkage of OpenMPI 1.5 to 1.4 deps to lower the risk. 16:21:46 Daviey: right, thus we are trying to keep the linkage against 1.4 16:21:52 thanks arosales, good to know. 16:22:23 [TOPIC] ARM team Q&A - ogra_ 16:22:32 nothing to add to my mail report :) 16:23:05 ogra_, congrats on making the switch to armhf! good luck? 16:23:07 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000863.html 16:23:11 btw :) 16:23:16 :) 16:23:22 that means we should switch precise_probs and friends over to armhf now? 16:23:32 and move armel to testing_ports, etc 16:23:32 thanks, we shouldnt need luck but vendors that rebuild their binary drivers ;) 16:23:43 orga: on that note, since amrel is now community maintained are most significant packages ready for armhf (given PRV driver is still coming)? 16:23:58 I guess that kind of answers it :-) 16:24:16 arosales, PVR is coming and i think rsalveti talks to TI this week about PVR for omap3 too 16:24:26 the only missing one is nvidia for the ac100 atm 16:24:41 thats not a bad list at all 16:24:53 ogra_, :) indeed. any FFes looking likely (other than for the late drops from TI, etc.)? 16:24:57 TI promised the panda PVR driver for next week (just in time) 16:25:05 :) 16:25:13 ogra_: thanks for the info. 16:25:18 skaet, the d-i bits for armadaxp ... not surte that needs an FFe 16:25:46 NCommander promised to have them ready today, but i didnt see him around since he said that :) 16:25:59 dbarth, pitti, - any update on when GLES will be supported in compiz? 16:26:09 * pitti doesn't know, sorry 16:26:10 skaet: i'm just talking with ogra 16:26:13 skaet, we are waiting for a patch from linaro 16:26:19 skaet: we're waiting for a linaro patch 16:26:22 right 16:26:32 it didn't happen as expected this week 16:26:36 iirc i saw it mentioned in fabo's report 16:26:37 ogra_, re: armadaxp - ack. GLES - okie. :) 16:27:06 thanks ogra_ 16:27:07 linaro had their conference so they lag a bit ... 16:27:09 .. 16:27:51 and on that note, lets see if fabo's got some updates... ;) 16:27:55 [TOPIC] Linaro team Q&A - fabo 16:27:59 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000866.html 16:28:11 sorry for missing last meeting and the late post 16:28:37 this monthly cycle is short due to Linaro Connect, ELC and ABS 16:29:01 less work has been delivered than usual 16:29:06 thanks fabo2. yeah, busy month for you. :) 16:29:39 Graphics team wasn't able to fid time to tackle Compiz GLES patch as expected 16:29:55 fabo2, any compiler issues known around the ARMHF side that we may need to pick up fixes for? 16:29:56 it's re-scheduled for next week 16:30:11 * Riddell hears KDE has a great GLES compositor 16:30:37 skaet: no issues in particular for armhf 16:31:03 doko was at Connect and I believe he pushed latest release 16:31:15 * skaet nods 16:31:33 any questions? 16:31:34 .. 16:32:05 * skaet apologizes for asking questions before the .. :/ 16:32:20 Thanks fabo2! I've asked mine. 16:32:32 otherwise, we started to ask vendors for armhf builds, same boat as ogra_ 16:32:35 .. 16:32:39 * skaet nods 16:33:12 [TOPIC] Ubuntu One Team Q&A - joshuahoover or ralsina 16:33:40 skaet: and dobey, just in case ;-) 16:34:56 I am not sure about procedure. Should I explain our case a bit? 16:35:04 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000851.html 16:35:30 yes, ralsina, please explain your question. :) end with .. when you're finished. 16:35:37 ok. 16:35:40 :) 16:36:08 basically, we are moving to a Qt-based control panel, because we are now cross-platform (ubuntu and windows, mac is upcoming). 16:36:55 So, to maximize usage ofour resources,we wanted to have the same codebase in all platforms. So, this cycle we are switchig to the Qt control panel on Ubuntu. 16:37:19 In order to do that and still be on the CD, we did a certain amount of work to make space for ourselves and our dependencies 16:37:32 I assume you are aware of the problem that pyqt4 isn't on the ubuntu default install and it's not easy to add it? 16:37:44 (as it's huge) 16:37:53 pitti: yes, I am aware, and it's not so huge anymore because dobey has split it 16:38:00 he has? 16:38:01 pitti: and we don't need all of it 16:38:03 it's still pretty big 16:38:06 ScottK: ^^ 16:38:10 Riddell: he is, let's say 16:38:12 I thought s/has/meant to/ 16:38:14 Riddell: i did some work to split it up more 16:38:21 Riddell: but it's not proposed yet 16:38:44 dobey: ok please keep me and ScottK informed, ScottK is the guy who usually packages it and keeps it in sync with debian 16:38:47 All things considered, I think we use about 8MB (right dobey?) 16:38:56 Riddell: will do 16:39:01 ralsina: yes 16:39:27 did you test the theming on it? 16:39:40 And that's about it, really. The question would be, what do we have to do, or has to be done, to stay in the CD. 16:39:41 .. 16:39:48 nobody poke me during the cycle 16:40:05 it'll need a FFe of course 16:40:08 Cimi: you can install it now and check it if you like. the style is u1 branding though, not necessarily same as ubuntu 16:40:11 Cimi: we are still in the process of testing the theming, but we have our own branding guidelines for Ubuntu One 16:40:31 but generally I find it nice that the world is discovering Qt, only 15 years after I did :) 16:40:40 Riddell: same here ;-) 16:40:46 so basically, we will have one of the default apps that won't look consistent in Ubuntu? 16:41:00 Cimi: we already have that. 16:41:01 Cimi: Qt should pick up the GTK theme 16:41:14 Cimi: for varying definitions of 'consistency' 16:41:19 It does pick the GTK theme to some point 16:41:21 (unlike the opposide where GTK doesn't bother so our side has to implement it) 16:41:22 Riddell, and next cycle? 16:41:30 Riddell, when gtk+2 theme will be a bit deprecated? 16:41:41 there's no qgtkstyle for Gtk+ 3 16:41:56 Cimi: you mean Qt 5 support? no idea yet but like the rest of Qt it's actively maintained 16:41:56 I have my concerns, just saying 16:42:13 Cimi: I know they're aware of it upstream 16:42:16 Cimi: then there will be a problem. But P is a LTS so it has 5 years of gtk2 theme left in it 16:42:22 ok 16:42:34 thanks for clarifying 16:42:47 worth pointing out your needs, Qt like hearing from Canonical, I can give you contacts if you want to 16:43:06 Riddell, I have the most solid contact in Qt regarding theming 16:43:06 Here is a bug about this problem and motivation for the changeto Qt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-control-panel/+bug/934270 16:43:08 Launchpad bug 934270 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) "We need to drop the current GTK+ UI in favor of the Qt UI" [Undecided,New] 16:43:17 Jens Bache Wiig, a friend of mine 16:43:23 he's the author of qgtkstyle, indeed 16:43:24 dobey, what is the actual space needs like after the split? 16:43:38 Cimi: yeah but it might benefit from the "key stakeholder companies liason" guy knowing too 16:44:00 Riddell, I heard from him that nobody is working on a qgtkstyle for gtk3 16:44:08 things might have changed though 16:44:17 skaet: it will be somewhere between 7 and 8 M, but I am saying 8 to be safe. currently pyqt4 requires a lot more 16:44:44 but in case they didn't, we need to be aware that we might need to hire someone to work on that, if we want to support u1 at its bests 16:44:44 Cimi: so worth us going to the stakeholder contact 16:44:48 as it pulls in other qt libs which aren't currently on CD 16:46:02 Riddell, dobey, ralsina thx. Let's keep in touch pls 16:46:23 dobey, thanks. pitti, will we be able to get close after the langpacks cleaned up? or still going to be painful? 16:46:25 Cimi: I will. We at OLS tend to work in our little bubble a bit. ;-) 16:46:46 skaet: right now, with a langpack refresh, we should be just about in size 16:47:04 thanks pitti. 16:47:04 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20120217/ 16:47:04 hmm 16:47:08 seems we are still bigger than we should be 16:47:13 need to check Tuesday 16:47:21 perhaps old webkit is still on that image 16:47:26 * skaet keeping fingers crossed. 16:48:13 18M over is pretty big. and i doubt langpack refresh will give us back 26M :-/ 16:48:18 pitti: looks like it still is 16:49:00 hello all! I'm also Ubuntu One. May I ask if is there any chance to consider dropping some other packages from the CD, such as games, for example? I think that Ubuntu One adds an important value to Ubuntu, and I think that having it installed by default on CD is a key point to reaching new users... 16:49:26 Thanks ralsina for bringing the topic up, and opening the discussion off. Suspect more will continue now offline. :) 16:49:44 skaet: ok then, let's do that :-) 16:49:47 .. 16:50:17 dobey: ok, will check next Tuesday 16:50:27 ok 16:50:28 nessita, if we're over the size limit, there's going to be some discussions next week. Hang out in #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-release. 16:50:41 skaet: sure I will, thanks 16:50:47 we sitll have the option of dropping python3 16:50:59 but I'm not sure how happy foundations would be about that 16:51:17 heh, and on that note.... 16:51:20 [TOPIC] Desktop Team Q&A - pitti 16:51:24 I'm not that happy either 16:51:24 it's treating one extra runtime against another one, both huge packages for one package (lsb-release vs. control-panel) 16:51:32 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000853.html 16:51:38 unity 5.4 landed today at last 16:51:43 :) 16:51:48 and we are getting very close with the apport whoopsie changes 16:51:51 nothing else to add 16:52:00 (any more, discussions already happened) 16:52:02 .. 16:52:19 Thanks pitti. :) Tuesday should be interesting. 16:53:23 [TOPIC] Unity Framework Team Q&A - dbarth 16:53:33 Report at the usual address: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ReleaseStatus 16:53:49 essentially unity 5.4 now in precise, that's the big news for the day 16:54:09 and we're looking forward to next week for a set of last UI changes prior to the freeze 16:54:16 see the schedule page i added in the report 16:54:21 .. 16:54:40 * skaet looking at the schedule... 16:55:40 dbarth, when are the FFe planned to land. all next week? 16:56:00 skaet: HUD & LIM next week yes 16:56:07 coverflow view? 16:56:10 as they were there but not quality ready 16:56:18 coverflow, i don't know 16:56:26 it's not very invasive, and is an optional view 16:56:36 but i'd rather get test before it's merged 16:56:48 * skaet nods 16:56:50 the week after, otherwise it'll be too late in the cycle 16:57:40 we'll be in beta freeze then, so please coordinate that one landing carefully with the release team. 16:57:59 yup 16:58:15 thanks dbarth! 16:58:19 [TOPIC] Unity Services and Settings Team Q&A - Cimi 16:58:24 hI GUYS 16:58:26 [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000855.html 16:58:41 so, lots of releases for indicators 16:59:00 same releases and work on touch 16:59:09 but I'd like to put your attention to the FFe 16:59:20 I added them at the bottom of the mail 16:59:55 * skaet appreciates them all being listed like that. useful. thanks. 17:00:05 :-) 17:00:14 so, questions from you? 17:00:22 especially, on those exceptions? 17:00:37 thanks Cimi - yes, when are they looking to land? 17:00:41 :) 17:01:01 LIM together with unity 17:01:14 the two touch stuff next week as well 17:01:36 overlay scrollbars for accessibility maybe the week after, so again, in betafreeze 17:02:04 I need to check for the other two requests for indicator/gmenumodel 17:02:23 the UIFe at the bottom, is instead a really important feature 17:03:16 I could do it in time for the UIF, but I'd rather use my time to guide unity towards the UIF (as it's more risky), and spend some time the week afterwards to complete the required change for light-themes 17:03:21 is that fine for you? 17:03:48 Thanks Cimi, I'll follow up with you off line on the timings of some (beta freeze), and we'll need to let the docs team know about the proposed UIFe... 17:04:16 skaet, sure, though that particular change won't affect docs 17:04:33 skaet, as it's a change that will apply on unfocused windows, so nothing will be subject to screenshots 17:04:42 ok, I'm done 17:04:58 thanks you all and congrats to all the team for the work done for the FF 17:04:59 .. 17:05:09 *teams 17:05:13 Cimi, :) if its not going to affect the screen shots, less of an issue. :) 17:05:25 thanks! 17:05:26 skaet, definitely not 17:05:30 yw, my pleasure 17:05:44 [TOPIC] Kubuntu Team Q&A - Riddell 17:06:01 hi 17:06:10 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000860.html 17:06:18 also digikam 2.5 got in 17:06:51 kubuntu-active CDs yet to be made but I should get onto that next week, it's very much "tech preview" so nothing official 17:07:08 I'm the tech driver for beta 1 17:07:20 and my poor brain means I get in grumpy moods easily so beware :) 17:07:21 .. 17:07:31 Thanks Riddell! :) 17:07:53 any FFe's on the horizon for Kubuntu? and will Kubuntu-active CD make the beta 1 release? 17:08:19 I don't know of any FFe's we'll need but they usually turn up 17:08:39 Kubuntu-active CD depends if I can work out the changes to scripts needed but it's just adapting the old kubuntu-mobile bits so I expect so 17:09:08 Thanks Riddell. 17:09:26 [TOPIC] Edubuntu Team Q&A - stgraber 17:09:30 * stgraber waves 17:09:36 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000849.html 17:10:04 just a quick note to say that Alkis has been doing a lot of bug triaging today, so all of ltsp/ldm bugs should now have been moved upstream when needed or otherwise updated 17:10:08 .. 17:10:30 thanks stgraber! :) and thanks Alkis! 17:10:48 stgraber, and Edubuntu FFe's anticipated? 17:11:05 *any 17:11:24 nope, though it's not impossible we may have to file some when refreshing epoptes or ltsp 17:11:31 though both should only get bugfix releases at this point 17:11:45 goodness. Thanks! 17:12:01 np 17:12:01 .. 17:12:04 [TOPIC] Xubuntu Team Q&A - madnick 17:13:17 [TOPIC] Ubuntu Studio Team Q&A - scott-work 17:13:51 [TOPIC] Lubuntu Team Q&A - gilir 17:13:58 hi :) 17:14:01 :) 17:14:05 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000862.html 17:14:09 .. 17:14:36 Thanks gilir. 17:15:36 * skaet not seeing any FFe's know in the report... earlier the better though. ;) 17:15:49 [TOPIC] MOTU Team Q&A - tumbleweed or Laney 17:15:55 hi 17:16:01 :) 17:16:02 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000868.html (after the meeting started, sorry) 17:16:16 I forgot https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ebox/+bug/928501 thought 17:16:17 Launchpad bug 928501 in ebox (Ubuntu) "Precise will ship totally broken ebox packages" [Undecided,Confirmed] 17:16:24 \o 17:16:30 .. 17:16:42 Thanks tumbleweed! Nice to get the summary like that. :D 17:17:10 well, there were >0 items to summarise :) 17:17:27 Looking forward to the jam being scheduled. :) 17:17:39 so scott-work 17:17:47 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-February/000850.html 17:17:48 s/so/go/ :) 17:18:11 any questions for tumbleweed or scott-work ? 17:18:21 i believe it is worth noting that the lowlatency kernel was uploaded to new queue 17:18:33 other than that, nothing else critical 17:18:33 .. 17:19:19 Thanks scott-work :) any FFEs on the horizon? 17:20:03 i would expect so, maybe two 17:20:36 ok, will follow up with you offline about timings, etc. 17:20:44 copy that 17:20:55 .. 17:20:56 [TOPIC] Any other business, comments, questions? 17:21:23 skaet: Is beta-1 testing now open 17:21:34 This meeting has run late, so I'll take my missing bits to the mail list, and start the discussion there. 17:21:56 arosales, beta-1 testing will open when we hit beta freeze - right now use the daily images. 17:21:58 roger that, thanks for moderating skaet 17:23:22 Thanks mlegris, jibel, mdeslaur, ogaswara, cjwatson, arosales, ogra_, fabo2, pitti, dbarth, Cimi, gilir, scott-work, tumbleweed, Riddell, dobey, nessitta, ralsina 17:23:25 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)