#title #ubuntu-meeting Meeting Meeting started by bodhizazen at 06:03:53 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-02-01-06.03.log.html . == Meeting summary == *Reverse Ripfox Ban ''ACTION:'' Ban revered on Ripfox, Iowan to send PM / E-mail (bodhizazen, 06:15:31) *Buffalo Soldier Sub-forum request ''LINK:'' http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1891534 (bodhizazen, 06:16:00) ''ACTION:'' Ask buffalo soldier to contact canonical and get back to us (bodhizazen, 06:22:16) *CC meeting * ''ACTION:'' s-fox to follow up on Zareason =) (bodhizazen, 06:28:15) *Community building ideas ''LINK:'' http://askubuntu.com/questions/100407/how-to-improve-the-launcher-and-the-menus-usability (bodhizazen, 06:35:16) ''LINK:'' http://askubuntu.com/questions/100288/things-to-do-on-ubuntu-to-get-experienced (bodhizazen, 06:37:19) *Division of Labor ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports (bodhizazen, 06:52:07) ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports/December2011 (bodhizazen, 06:52:22) ''LINK:'' http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=404 (bodhizazen, 06:53:15) *wolfen69 for membership ''ACTION:'' coffeecat will review UF applicants and post in chit chat (bodhizazen, 07:03:18) *Open discussion *Identify FC chairperson Meeting ended at 07:29:31 UTC. == Votes == * wolfen69 for membership For: 5 Against: 0 Abstained: 0 * rafa.genupula for membership For: 2 Against: 0 Abstained: 3 * Old_Gray_Wolf for membership For: 6 Against: 0 Abstained: 1 * Ripfox a second chance For: 5 Against: 0 Abstained: 1 * haqking for membership For: 6 Against: 0 Abstained: 0 * Dangertux for membership For: 4 Against: 0 Abstained: 1 * Ask Buffalo soldier to contact Canonical and get back to us For: 6 Against: 0 Abstained: 0 == Action items == * Ban revered on Ripfox, Iowan to send PM / E-mail * Ask buffalo soldier to contact canonical and get back to us * s-fox to follow up on Zareason =) * coffeecat will review UF applicants and post in chit chat == Action items, by person == * coffeecat ** coffeecat will review UF applicants and post in chit chat * Iowan ** Ban revered on Ripfox, Iowan to send PM / E-mail * s-fox ** s-fox to follow up on Zareason =) == People present (lines said) == * bodhizazen (193) * meetingology (82) * s-fox (36) * Iowan (28) * Artificial_Intel (27) * coffeecat (27) * cariboo907 (16) * moergaes (16) * nothingspecial (2) * bkerensa (1) == Full Log == 06:03:53 #startmeeting 06:03:54 Meeting started Wed Feb 1 06:03:53 2012 UTC. The chair is bodhizazen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 06:03:54 06:03:54 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 06:04:17 Again, who is here for the meeting =) 06:04:20 o/ 06:04:25 o/ 06:04:26 o/ 06:04:30 o/ 06:04:31 o/ 06:04:33 Mörgæs o/ 06:04:39 o/ 06:05:12 I would like to go a bit out of order w/ the agenda 06:05:27 First, thank you all around 06:05:54 Thanks to the FC members who servered in the past, and thank you to the New FC members 06:06:08 And thank you to the mod staff =) 06:06:22 Is ripfox here ? 06:06:36 [topic]Reverse Ripfox Ban 06:07:08 Anyone here want to discuss Ripfox ? 06:07:23 is he aware of this meeting today? 06:07:31 Probably not 06:08:04 I would say we can give Ripfox the benefit of the doubt here, and reverse the ban 06:08:12 But it is probably a little too late 06:08:19 What caused it? 06:08:27 next time in such situation we need to send an e-mail to the person(s). 06:08:58 * bodhizazen looks 06:09:39 I just checked Ripfox's history in the RC, he seems to have had problems with moderation since 2008 06:09:54 Ripfox - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?threadid=1881936 06:11:26 Here is the thread in the RC - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1877662 06:11:48 There were a number of strange RC threads in 2008 and then nothing until the Unity trolling business in 2011 06:12:18 We can give him a second chance. 06:12:31 I'd opt for "converting" the 15 pointer to 5 06:12:40 +1 for a second chance 06:12:41 Well, the unity issue came up at sort of a bad time - I think most of the staff was sort of sick of it already 06:13:15 [VOTE] Ripfox a second chance 06:13:15 Please vote on: Ripfox a second chance 06:13:15 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 06:13:17 +1 06:13:17 +1 received from bodhizazen 06:13:21 +1 06:13:21 +1 received from coffeecat 06:13:23 +1 06:13:23 +1 received from Artificial_Intel 06:13:25 +1 06:13:25 +1 received from cariboo907 06:13:26 +1 06:13:26 +1 received from Iowan 06:13:33 0 06:13:33 0 received from moergaes 06:13:41 [ENDVOTE] Ripfox a second chance 06:13:41 Voting ended on: Ripfox a second chance 06:13:41 Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1 06:13:41 Motion carried 06:13:55 OK aynone willing to PM / email Ripfox ? 06:14:15 I will... 06:14:47 Thanks, I reversed the infraction 06:15:31 [ACTION] Ban revered on Ripfox, Iowan to send PM / E-mail 06:15:31 * meetingology Ban revered on Ripfox, Iowan to send PM / E-mail 06:15:49 [TOPIC]Buffalo Soldier Sub-forum request 06:16:00 [LINK]http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1891534 06:16:41 Buffalo Soldier or s-fox ? 06:17:33 I would say +1 if Buffalo makes contact with Canonical first, but I am not sure how far along the process is 06:17:52 How was it about having a general sub-forum for preinstalled Buntu? 06:18:23 I mean, there could be many requests from small companies for a similar forum. 06:19:09 * cariboo907 +1, but I'd like to see him go through Canonical 06:19:17 Exactly 06:19:31 or forums with with subs for each companies, like we have loco forums. Then we avoid mess 06:19:46 I like the idea of promoting pre-installed Ubuntu / Linux, but I am uncomfortable with promoting this vs that product 06:20:13 If we promote a product, IMO, it should be in conjunction with Canonical 06:20:24 aye 06:20:38 agreed 06:20:52 As far as I'm concerned we (the forum) shouldn't play favourites 06:20:57 I presume it was Canonical who established the current manufacturer sub forums 06:21:06 [VOTE]Ask Buffalo soldier to contact Canonical and get back to us 06:21:06 Please vote on: Ask Buffalo soldier to contact Canonical and get back to us 06:21:06 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 06:21:07 * cariboo907 agrees 06:21:10 Yes Iowan 06:21:12 +1 06:21:12 +1 received from bodhizazen 06:21:16 +1 06:21:16 +1 received from cariboo907 06:21:17 +1 06:21:17 +1 received from coffeecat 06:21:17 1 06:21:18 +1 06:21:18 +1 received from Artificial_Intel 06:21:20 +1 06:21:20 +1 received from Iowan 06:21:30 +1 06:21:30 +1 received from moergaes 06:21:36 [ENDVOTE] 06:21:36 Voting ended on: Ask Buffalo soldier to contact Canonical and get back to us 06:21:36 Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 06:21:36 Motion carried 06:21:52 Anyone willing to contact Buffalo soldier ? 06:22:01 I can do it. 06:22:11 * cariboo907 will 06:22:16 [ACTION]Ask buffalo soldier to contact canonical and get back to us 06:22:16 * meetingology Ask buffalo soldier to contact canonical and get back to us 06:22:38 I think cariboo907 would be best =) 06:22:57 [TOPIC] CC meeting 06:23:14 It would be ideal if at least one FC could attend CC meetings =) 06:23:36 They are at odd times (last I looked) an it will be difficult for me to attend 06:24:05 We could rotate (see last item on agenda) 06:24:23 I haven't looked to see what time the meetings are at, so I can't say 06:25:03 * cariboo907 checked, I can probably make it 06:25:04 Along those lines, would be nice to see FC and staff promote ubuntu within other community venues - LP, wiki, IRC, ask ubuntu, and there is a community channel ?? 06:25:30 I'd be happy to attend, if time/date/memory all cooperate. 06:25:47 last time I checked, their meetings are around 2-3 o'clock in the morning for me, so I'll have difficulties to attend. 06:25:51 Any more comments on CC meetings ? 06:26:18 the meetings are on the 1st and 3rd thursday at 17:00 UTC 06:26:29 Exactly AI , the CC meets at inconvenient to all sorts of times 06:26:58 I am going to skip to ZaReason sub forums 06:27:10 [TOPIC] 06:27:10 ZaReason Sub-Forum Idea 06:27:22 Probably same as with Buffalo soldiger 06:27:35 aye 06:27:43 Have we had any "official" contact from Zareason or Canonical ? 06:27:43 no news on that front? 06:27:49 +1 to that 06:27:52 Didn't ZaReason already contact Canonical? 06:28:15 [ACTION]s-fox to follow up on Zareason =) 06:28:15 * meetingology s-fox to follow up on Zareason =) 06:28:42 [TOPIC]Community building ideas 06:29:31 I would like to see more positive / support / social interactions with staff and community , and not all fighting with trolls and spam-ban 06:29:42 I was approched by effenberg0x0 about creating a bit of a community around the ubuntu +1 sub-forum 06:29:50 Any ideas on how to promote community spirit of forums ? 06:30:06 That would be great cariboo907 06:30:20 I have been working on the ask ubuntu community 06:30:49 interact in lighthearted topics in café, not only in the one that can explode any time soon. 06:30:56 effenberg0x0 and I are conducting a classroom session at UDW so i'll discuss it with him further 06:31:06 ask ubuntu often refers conversations from ask ubuntu -> ubuntu fourms , I have make them aware we do not appreciate some of the topics though =) 06:32:25 Also, staff in general should be aware of #ubuntu-community-team 06:32:27 unfortunately I have to leave for work, so I'll say good day to all 06:32:52 It is sort of a gathering IRC channel for various people in various leadership positions across the community 06:33:06 any exampel of this? 06:33:22 example of what Artificial_Intel ? 06:33:45 "ask ubuntu often refers conversations from ask ubuntu -> ubuntu fourms , I have make them aware we do not appreciate some of the topics though" 06:34:14 I would have to dig some up .. 06:34:17 * bodhizazen looks 06:35:16 http://askubuntu.com/questions/100407/how-to-improve-the-launcher-and-the-menus-usability 06:35:20 See comments 06:36:27 "I don't know where the right place for Unity feedback is, but this isn't it." Sounds familiar! 06:37:12 An Unity sub forum? 06:37:19 http://askubuntu.com/questions/100288/things-to-do-on-ubuntu-to-get-experienced 06:37:37 "This sort of discussion is a better fit for the Ubuntu Forums. – Jorge Castro 10 hours ago " 06:38:01 That sort of thing Artificial_Intel and coffeecat 06:38:06 just FYI 06:38:21 yea, there's no need to send the garbage to UF 06:38:41 If I see a referral of a conversation that is more obviously trolling I object =) 06:39:26 Yea, for now monitor it, there is some cross posting between ask ubuntu and the forums, support as well as conversation 06:39:47 Community spirit. How about involving the Ubuntu members (through forum contributions)? 06:39:53 It is not as if we notice the referrals from ask ubuntu , the cafe is busy enough that IMO it is not a problem 06:40:09 +1 coffeecat 06:40:28 I would like to suggest adding 1-2 staff 1 month prior to a release 06:41:03 and ask less active ones to step down, sort of keeps the staff and community working together and lessens burn out 06:41:28 Criteria? 06:41:32 Any other community building suggestions ? 06:41:55 Criteria - Ubuntu fourms members + positive contributions 06:42:16 :) 06:42:24 do not have criteria for stepping down ... 06:42:37 Any other comments on community building ? 06:43:21 I just wanted you all to keep in mind , we are community leaders, and we should make an effort to grow the community, recognize the positive contributions of othes , and work with the other community leaders 06:43:38 A common comment on many teams in the community is isolation =) 06:44:06 Can't we put this topic up in Staff chit chat. 06:44:20 I did not necessarily think we would have a "solution" to this "problem" and I wish s-fox were here ;P 06:44:25 I'm still mulling over Ubuntu members. 06:44:28 go for it Artificial_Intel 06:44:38 Don't have a conc rete suggestion. 06:44:44 [TOPIC]Division of Labor 06:45:20 It is sad to say, the FC has grown inactive in the last few months for a variety of reasons. 06:45:55 I was wondering if it might be helpful to divide the tasks and "assign" certain tasks to certain members 06:46:05 We could rotate tasks or not 06:46:51 seems like a goode idea to try it out 06:47:24 I posted an initial "to do" list here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1912368 06:47:33 A to-do list would be helpful 06:47:37 was hoping for any other suggestions I might have missed 06:47:41 We can then assign FC - these two, Ubuntu membership - those two, etc 06:48:40 I did not want to start assigning the tasks just yet, but suggest we start this month ? 06:48:58 One person can approve mailings to the FC mailing list, etc 06:49:37 We can touch base on assigning tasks in chit chat ? 06:49:46 Which tasks are in deepest need - or are most? 06:49:53 Hello 06:49:53 How about if everyone selects something to do this month =) 06:49:59 Yes 06:50:09 Deepest need - we need to , IMO 06:50:14 1. assess staff needs 06:50:15 I don't mind having RC. I interact with people on professional level daily. 06:50:25 2. start up on the monthly team report 06:50:30 do you all know what that is ? 06:51:00 I can do #2 06:51:41 OK 06:51:51 i just reviewed it... 06:52:07 [LINK]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports 06:52:22 [LINK]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports/December2011 06:52:35 We also need to get ubuntu forms members going pronto 06:52:41 Encourage applications 06:52:46 approve applications 06:53:03 I would like to volunteer for UBuntu members processes 06:53:15 http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=404 06:53:23 OK coffeecat 06:53:36 How about if you review the pending applications 06:53:41 I'd like to help with FC mailing list. 06:53:41 post in chit chat, 06:53:45 Ones to approve 06:53:50 Ones to decline 06:53:50 Yes - I;ve been thinking about related matters too. 06:53:57 and ones you need help with 06:54:09 We have a backlog to process. +1 on getting on top of it 06:54:19 The only one I think we need to discuss is wolfen69 06:54:47 Keep in mind, eventually , if not now, all future staff have to be members 06:55:02 Have we added a participation (calendar) reuiement? 06:55:03 Encourage all your friends and people with helpful posts you see to apply 06:55:14 We should ask the entire staff to invite 06:56:05 How about if FC members post what tasks they will take this month here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1912368 06:56:24 Then start a discussion thread on your topic / issue in scc 06:56:55 [TOPIC]wolfen69 for membership 06:57:04 Any suggestions re: wolfen69 ? 06:57:52 Anyone want to vote on wolfen69 ? 06:57:57 I have no problem with it. People make mistakes, people can change. 06:58:00 I have already posted my reservations, so I'll not repeat them here... 06:58:13 I will acknowledge his posting style can be edgy, but it does not bother me 06:58:28 moergaes, please summarize them =) 06:58:45 One second, let me search... 06:58:48 I would not ask if I did not want input 06:58:58 It is no worse than HTL bodhizazen 06:59:16 HTL ? 06:59:48 I honestly think wolfen69 has "community support" 06:59:59 Here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11556560&postcount=29 07:00:24 No infractions/warnings since april '09 07:00:24 I would say approve him, but let him know we expect that he be mindful of his posting style as he now represents the community 07:00:27 Sorry, i was thinking of the old username. Now flies by Bachstelze 07:00:45 bodhizazen, I think we ought to have a formal vote/discussion on each applicant in http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=406 As quickly as possible, obviously. 07:00:51 /s/flies/goes 07:01:01 OIC, +1 to that s-fox, the problem with HTL was that he as also staff 07:01:19 Want to run through it now ? 07:01:40 "Problem" - haha 07:01:50 Or post in chit-chat coffeecat 07:02:15 OK - that would be easier for everyone. 07:02:25 well s-fox there was more then once it spilled into staff =( 07:02:35 which coffeecat ? 07:02:48 POst in chit chat. :) 07:02:50 you tell us and we will go with it 07:02:55 Yes, that is true 07:03:16 I'll start a thread in SCC. 07:03:18 [ACTION] coffeecat will review UF applicants and post in chit chat 07:03:18 * meetingology coffeecat will review UF applicants and post in chit chat 07:03:32 I would like to see a decision on a few tonight 07:03:58 [VOTE] haqking for membership 07:03:58 Please vote on: haqking for membership 07:03:58 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 07:04:10 +1 07:04:10 +1 received from Iowan 07:04:16 +1 07:04:16 +1 received from bodhizazen 07:04:17 +1 07:04:17 +1 received from Artificial_Intel 07:04:18 +1 07:04:18 +1 received from moergaes 07:04:26 +1 07:04:26 +1 received from s-fox 07:04:32 +1 07:04:32 +1 received from coffeecat 07:04:36 [ENDVOTE] 07:04:36 Voting ended on: haqking for membership 07:04:36 Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 07:04:36 Motion carried 07:04:56 [VOTE] Old_Gray_Wolf for membership 07:04:56 Please vote on: Old_Gray_Wolf for membership 07:04:56 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 07:04:58 +1 07:04:58 +1 received from bodhizazen 07:05:02 +1 07:05:02 +1 received from coffeecat 07:05:03 +1 07:05:03 +1 received from nothingspecial 07:05:05 +1 07:05:05 +1 received from moergaes 07:05:07 +1 07:05:07 +1 received from Artificial_Intel 07:05:07 +1 07:05:07 +1 received from s-fox 07:05:13 0 07:05:13 0 received from Iowan 07:05:21 [ENDVOTE] 07:05:21 Voting ended on: Old_Gray_Wolf for membership 07:05:21 Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1 07:05:21 Motion carried 07:05:37 (Sorry, do I have the right to vote here?) 07:05:43 [VOTE] rafa.genupula for membership 07:05:43 Please vote on: rafa.genupula for membership 07:05:43 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 07:05:59 moergaes, we normally ask FC members only to vote 07:06:19 +0 07:06:19 +0 received from s-fox 07:06:46 +0 07:06:46 +0 received from coffeecat 07:06:52 +1 07:06:52 +1 received from Artificial_Intel 07:07:07 +1 07:07:07 +1 received from bodhizazen 07:07:16 Any other votes ? 07:07:22 * Iowan looking 07:07:26 I only have one more candidate 07:07:31 0 07:07:31 0 received from Iowan 07:07:39 [ENDVOTE] 07:07:39 Voting ended on: rafa.genupula for membership 07:07:39 Votes for:2 Votes against:0 Abstentions:3 07:07:39 Motion carried 07:07:49 Really? 07:07:58 [VOTE] wolfen69 for membership 07:07:58 Please vote on: wolfen69 for membership 07:07:58 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 07:08:10 +1 07:08:10 +1 received from Artificial_Intel 07:08:13 +1 07:08:13 +1 received from bodhizazen 07:08:15 +1 07:08:15 +1 received from coffeecat 07:08:18 +1 07:08:18 +1 received from Iowan 07:08:19 +1 07:08:19 +1 received from s-fox 07:08:43 [ENDVOTE] 07:08:43 Voting ended on: wolfen69 for membership 07:08:43 Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 07:08:43 Motion carried 07:09:00 [VOTE] Dangertux for membership 07:09:00 Please vote on: Dangertux for membership 07:09:00 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 07:09:04 +1 07:09:04 +1 received from bodhizazen 07:09:05 +1 07:09:05 +1 received from Iowan 07:09:12 +1 07:09:12 +1 received from s-fox 07:09:17 +1 07:09:17 +1 received from coffeecat 07:09:20 +0 07:09:20 +0 received from Artificial_Intel 07:09:31 [ENDVOTE] 07:09:31 Voting ended on: Dangertux for membership 07:09:31 Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1 07:09:31 Motion carried 07:09:44 Anyone want to vote on the other 2 ? 07:09:52 I do not know them well enough 07:10:09 Suggest we have a discussion/vote for them in the staff area. 07:10:15 Who are they? I am on a 3G connection... Slow haha 07:10:43 Joseph Mills and lechien73 07:10:57 +1 coffeecat 07:11:01 I don't know either of them 07:11:07 I'll kick that off. 07:11:10 [TOPIC]Open discussion 07:11:28 We are at an hour or so now, any input from the staff or other community members ? 07:11:42 What can the FC do for you ? do better ? 07:11:51 Regarding membership: 07:11:53 Got something.....Who unsubscribed me from FC mailing list? 07:11:59 s-fox, we reversed the ban on ripfox 07:12:09 PM sent... 07:12:17 Thank you bodhizazen . 07:12:27 Artificial_Intel, Must have been me ? Although I do not recall doing so 07:12:31 Post to the ML 07:12:31 It felt "wrong" :) 07:12:41 s-fox can you manage the ML this month ? 07:13:04 moergaes, sure, go for it, speak up 07:13:08 I got an e-mail some days ago that I was unsub. 07:13:08 I recall seeing something about It Artificial_Intel 07:13:20 We discussed earlier if there should be an official one year limit for membership applicants. 07:13:22 I can look after the ml, sure 07:13:39 Is there any decision on that? 07:13:56 I think the community standard is 1 year, and people then can auto-renew themselves ? 07:14:20 Was that a 1-year participation requirement??? 07:14:20 Artificial_Intel I will see about adding you back :-) 07:14:21 I do not have to do much of anything to maintain my Ubuntu Membership 07:14:30 moergaes: that was something I would like to look at. If everyone is happy I'll start a debate in SCC with other membership matters, 07:14:40 +1 coffeecat 07:14:43 +1 bodhizazen 07:14:54 I think the key working is "significant contributions" 07:15:07 rather then a strict time of participation 07:15:16 I would say 6 month minimum 07:15:30 in terms of forums account activation 07:15:30 +1 perhaps longer 07:16:12 Documented somewhere? 07:16:13 Are we in danger of not recognising contribution outside of the forum? 07:16:40 There are other membership teams for that as well. 07:17:00 Not enough outside to warrant membership by normal means, but activities of note regardless 07:17:19 s-fox, well that is why we ask them to make a wiki page 07:17:37 Okay 07:17:54 we should review their contributions, but applicants should be responsible for bringing it to our attention via wiki 07:18:05 Oh, I almost forgot ... 07:18:23 How do you all want to manage / elect / appoint the FC chairperson ? 07:18:39 [TOPIC] Identify FC chairperson 07:18:58 have FC members vote ? staff vote ? 07:19:22 I thought the idea was the FC elect chair ;) 07:19:58 That was what was discussed previously, but I do not think we have had an official FC chairperson for quiet some time 07:20:11 so I though it best to put it up for discussion 07:20:37 Well, you know what I think bodhizazen 07:21:22 I know who has been doing the job... 07:23:13 We should set up some sort of election , suggestions on how to do so ? 07:23:17 In terms of seniority, only 1 choice exists. bodhizazen 07:23:19 vote somewhere ? 07:24:28 We number 7 on the fc. Do we strictly need a chair? 07:24:32 I do not think the position should be based on seniority, it should be an elected position 07:24:53 s-fox, I have not looked in a while, but my understanding was that the CC wanted a chair 07:25:07 We could post to the CC asking if we need a chairperson 07:25:16 I would be fine without appointing one 07:25:30 s/appointing/electing, lol 07:25:50 Okay, only difference is chair gets casting vote uncase of ties 07:25:53 Incase 07:26:12 Aye, might happen on say IRC meetings I suppose 07:26:34 s-fox for chair +1 :D 07:27:14 Do you all want to discuss this on the mailing list ? 07:27:27 aye 07:27:30 +1 discuss 07:27:32 We are close to 90 minutes for this meeting 07:27:34 Don't object 07:27:37 +1 discuss 07:27:48 OK , who will post to the mailing list ? 07:28:18 I suppose that is s-fox as you agreed to manage ML this month =) 07:28:33 Anything else before we end the meeting ? 07:28:36 Is their anyone who doesnt want to be chair? 07:29:12 I said i'd do the ml this month 07:29:19 Does this time work for FC meetings ? 07:29:22 Or rotate ? 07:29:31 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)